House Oversight Committee Hearing On Benghazi This Morning *Open Thread* UPDATED


Update at the end of the post.

This will be brief since the Hearing is starting in moments. The House Oversight Committee is holding a hearing this morning, and now that these new emails have come to light, it should be even more interesting. They expect additional testimony to contradict the whole BS video meme, including from Brigadier General Robert Lovell, U.S. Air Force (Retired). You can access the information for this hearing at the House Oversight site HERE.

Bret Baier had Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on “Special Report” to discuss the Benghazi issue again:

Seems to me my Senator is a bit peeved about how things are coming down now. And they are pretty much what most of us thought they were in the first place…

If you can’t get to a tv, you can live-stream the Hearing HERE or at Fox News HERE.

Feel free to discuss this or whatever other issues on your minds today.

(Edited to add in another stream option.)

UPDATE: There were many powerful moments during today’s hearing, with Representatives Chaffetz and Issa asking some outstanding questions. Below is the questioning by Rep. Jim Lankford of Brig. Gen. Lovell and Mr. Wehrey. At the 5:52 mark, though, was a particularly poignant moment, one I mentioned in the comments below. It is when Rep. Lankford asked Brig. Gen. Lovell if we had the backs of the Americans:

And there it is…


45 Responses to “House Oversight Committee Hearing On Benghazi This Morning *Open Thread* UPDATED”

  1. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    The hearing has already brought some major news, and it just started. Specifically from the Brig. Gen. (retired) Lovell abt this being a terror attack, and not knowing how long it would last (as Bill Hemmer emphasized on “America’s Newsroom”)…


  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    I am not a Lindsey Grahman fan but your Senator has been right about Benghazi from the gitgo. It appears he will coast to another term so at least the fact that he’s good for something may help some.

    I wonder if John McCain were gone if Graham would be a better Senator? He seems to let McCain lead him around by the nose. Ditto Kelly Ayotte.

    I wonder if another House Oversite Meeting will accomplish anything? I think the time has come for a Special Prosecutor. That way the damn media will have to cover it.

    Is Cummings having a fit yet?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Right there with you, Marge – he is great on this issue, and for that, I am thankful. But yeah, I was disappointed when he, and Sen. Ayotte, whom I had liked, threw their lot in with McCain.

      Yes, they HAVE to appoint a Special Prosecutor at this point. I don’t see any other way around that.

      Cummings has spoken, and Connelly (who kept interrupting the guy he was questioning when the answers didn’t fit what he wanted to hear), but the Dems continue to downplay what happened there. BIG surprise…

  3. helenk3 Says:

    just turned it on. Eleanor Holmes Norton is a disgrace and a hack. makes me ashamed I was ever a democrat

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yeah. She is so ignorant, isn’t she? I am pretty sure she is not a voting member, though (she’s from DC, right?), so at least there is that. But this continued feigned umbrage, dismissal, and denial of the evidence is stunning.

  4. helenk3 Says:

    it is going to be a bumpy ride

  5. helenk3 Says:

    wonder if this position is paid for by backtrack campaign funds or the taxpayer?

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Rep. Jim Lankford just asked Gen. Lovell if that night, we had Americans’ backs. Lovell quietly replied, “Obviously not, sir.”

    Made me cry. It’s a new world under Obama, and not a good one…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Oh that’s heartbreaking. And expect the slurs to start about General Lovell very soon. I hope the good General had the good sense to keep his pants zipped.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Rep. Chaffetz just asked again if we could have done more, to which the General responded, voice breaking, “we should have done more…”

        Chaffetz asked when the fight was over, and Gen. Lovell responded, “We’re still there…”

  7. helenk3 Says:

    not sure if this link will work. the hearing on c-span

  8. helenk3 Says:

  9. helenk3 Says:

    watching the democrats on this panel about Benghazi trying to change the subject makes me ashamed that I was ever a democrat. they disrespect themselves , congress and the American people by failing to do their job

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Me too. Were they always that bad? Or were we unaware before we had computers and the Internet? I know that I am now better informed than ever before in my life. I also have more time to be informed now that I’m retired.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        You know, Marge, maybe it is because of the interwebs (!) that we now know how bad they are because we can see and hear them in real time, like this hearing today (which is currently on break). To see the lack of logic, and the continual emotional hooks they employ is disturbing, but even more so are those who FALL for it…

        Speaking of breaking, that is what the media is trying to do with Jay Carney – break through his constant BS. How this man can live with himself is beyond me…

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          A political hack like Carney, posing for most of his career as a journalist has no problem living with himself – no integrity/no problem. I just wonder how Claire Shipman can stand to get into bed with the sneering little weasel.

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Hearing is back on. If you can’t watch it, you can stream it using some of the links above.

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Here is Rep. Chaffetz interviewing Brig. Gen. Lovell, and he does not hold back one bit:

  12. helenk3 Says:

    what we really need is an independent special prosecutor

  13. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Chaffetz is hammering away abt the State Dept wanting the Marines in the FAST team to change into civilian clothes – sensitivities, dontcha know…Grrrr.

  14. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Brig. Gen. Lovell has also been very clear that Al Qaida is far from on the run…

  15. helenk3 Says:

    backtrack bunch knew it was not a video

  16. sassyminor Says:

    My apologies Amy. Here are the links to my comment on the previous thread.

  17. sassyminor Says:

  18. sassyminor Says:

    GOP, ‘dark money’ group target Dem justices on Tennessee Supreme Court
    By Hank Hayes

    Tennessee Republicans have captured the executive and legislative branches of state government, and now it appears they are going after the top tier of the judicial branch _ the state Supreme Court.
    Three Democratic state Supreme Court justices will be on the Aug. 7 ballot to be retained or not by voters, who are likely to be exposed to an advertising campaign this summer telling them to reject the justices.
    Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey, R-Blountville says he will play an “informative role” in the retention election.
    “I would say when we have retention ballots once every eight years, then we need to pay attention who we’re electing,” Ramsey insisted. “I have attended several events with business leaders who are interested in this project, and for decades it’s kind of flown under the radar screen and nobody’s paid any attention to it. I do think there will be an effort by some business leaders and others to not retain the three Democrat Supreme Court judges.”
    The three Democratic justices seeking retention are Cornelia Clark from Middle Tennessee and two East Tennessee justices, Chief Justice Gary Wade of Sevierville and Sharon Lee of Madisonville.
    No sitting Supreme Court justice has been denied a term since Penny White was defeated in 1996.
    Media reports indicate the advocacy group American For Prosperity(AFP) founded in part by industrialists Charles and David Koch, might be the organization pouring money into ads to defeat those justices.
    This year, AFP stepped into state legislative battles over whether to repeal the Hall Income Tax and a bill requiring lawmakers to give the green light before Governor Bill Haslam expands the state’s Medicaid program.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks so much for this – I hadn’t heard anything abt this issue at all, so I appreciate learning abt it!

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        By the way, as I have requested in the past, when people are putting in writings from other places, PLEASE provide the link and quotation marks for those passages that are from the actual piece one is quoting. It is hard to tell what is from the person you are quoting, and what is personal opinion.

        More than that, without proper acknowledgment, one can be accused of plagiarism and face some real issues as a result (seriously – people have been sued over internet use of articles even WITH proper acknowledgment).


  19. sassyminor Says:

    Then there is this “opinion piece” by D. Bruce Shine, named by Tennessee Business magazine, as one of the state’s 150 best attorneys.

    Why are Koch brothers so interested in what happens in Tennessee?
    I haven’t totally figured out why the billionaire brothers David and Charles Koch have taken such an interest in Tennessee, but I think I know their ultimate desired result.
    This past session of the General Assembly, the Koch brothers created a Tennessee chapter of their personal lobby group, Americans For Prosperity (AFP)
    The group, with less than subtle backing from Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey, decided to take on Gov. Bill Haslam over repeal or a significant reduction in the Hall Income Tax, a state levy on dividend and interest income.
    More surprising was why the Koch brothers picked Tennessee to spread their money on conservative politicians and thereby buy influence within a segment of the Republican Party.
    Andrew Ogles, AFP’s state director, has stated, “Tennessee is a great state to pass model legislation than can be leveraged in other states.”
    In other words, Tennessee’s legislature can be easily manipulated and cheaply purchased to enact legislation for use elsewhere, which suits the Koch brothers’ economic interest irrespective of whether such legislation is in the best interest of Tennessee.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Interesting. I noticed that Shine is a big time Democrat, and this is an OPINION piece by him, so it is not surprising that he would want to point the finger at the Koch Bros. That is the meme with which the DNC is running these days, which is obvious from Reid’s, and others, performances of late.

      As for the Hayes piece, the claim that the Koch Bros “MIGHT BE” putting money in makes it suspect. Either have facts to support the assertion, or don’t make it. That is to say, he is casting aspersions without substantiating his claim.

      Like I said in my previous comment, I know the Koch Bros are the big target, but they are 59th on the list of big donors, with 6 of the top 10 being unions, and many others in the top being Dems (, including George Soros, who has HIS hand in a whole BUNCH of areas, but I am not hearing the same complaints abt him, certainly not from Dems…

  20. kenoshamarge Says:

    Glenn McCoy is one of my favorite cartoonists – this cartoon shows why.

  21. helenk3 Says:

    really needs his face smacked

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I could not believe he said that. It speaks volumes abt the kind of people working in Obama’s Administration.

  22. helenk3 Says:

    since backtrack was not in the situation room during the Benghazi attack, does anyone know if valjar was?

  23. helenk3 Says:

    they say music is a great learning tool. maybe this will explain the outrage of Benghazi to the obots

  24. helenk3 Says:

    holder after CIA whistleblower for asking questions about Benghazi

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Holy moley, Plumlee is one BRAVE man for doing this, especially given how vindictive this Administration is. WOW!

  25. helenk3 Says:

    the sad part of this story is that it is believable. backtrack was not in the situation room, was valjar?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is absolutely believable. How the president could not have been more present for this crisis is beyond me, EXCEPT if Valerie was running the show…

  26. helenk3 Says:

    FOX News

    special committee to be started with Trey Gowdy as chairman

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