The Good Doctor On Israel *Open Thread*


As a follow up to the “Breaking News” post from yesterday, I must share this excellent piece by Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post about the current attacks by Hamas on Israel, and Israel’s response to those attacks. He lays it out beautifully. I cannot include it all here, and I urge you to read the rest, but here are some of the highlights of his piece. From WaPo:

[…] “Here’s the difference between us,” explains the Israeli prime minister. “We’re using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they’re using their civilians to protect their missiles.”

Rarely does international politics present a moment of such moral clarity. Yet we routinely hear this Israel-Gaza fighting described as a morally equivalent “cycle of violence.” This is absurd. What possible interest can Israel have in cross-border fighting? Everyone knows Hamas set off this mini-war. And everyone knows the proudly self-declared raison d’etre of Hamas: the eradication of Israel and its Jews.

Apologists for Hamas attribute the blood lust to the Israeli occupation and blockade. Occupation? Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling die-hard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted its settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians. There was not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli left in Gaza.

And there was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.

I am sure Israel was thrilled at what Palestine did to those greenhouses, etc.. Wanna take a guess? Here’s more from Krauthammer’s piece:

[…] And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them — an independent territory? First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas. Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.

Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state? Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders. They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones. They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. (Just Thursday, the U.N. announced that it found 20 rockets in a Gaza school.) And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. […]

Where, indeed, are each and every one of these positive moves towards their collective growth? The short of it is, given their chance, they chose a movement toward death, not life. And that is all from Hamas, as the commentary continues:

[…] To deliberately wage war so that your own people can be telegenically killed is indeed moral and tactical insanity. But it rests on a very rational premise: Given the Orwellian state of the world’s treatment of Israel (see: the U.N.’s grotesque Human Rights Council), fueled by a mix of classic anti-Semitism, near-total historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the ostensible Third World underdog, these eruptions featuring Palestinian casualties ultimately undermine support for Israel’s legitimacy and right to self-defense.

In a world of such Kafkaesque ethical inversions, the depravity of Hamas begins to make sense. This is a world in which the Munich massacre is a movie and the murder of Klinghoffer is an opera — both deeply sympathetic to the killers. This is a world in which the U.N. ignores humanity’s worst war criminals while incessantly condemning Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years that nonetheless goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid harming the very innocents its enemies use as shields.[…] (Click here to read the rest of this excellent piece.)

That is truly grotesque, and beyond comprehension, that Hamas CHOOSES to put its citizens in harm’s way, as I noted in the “Breaking News” post. And somehow THEY get all the sympathy and support from many in the world, including our own Secretary of State, John Kerry. Yes, Kerry made a statement today that Israel should try not to kill innocent people. Well, gosh, Sec. Kerry, when you have a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION that willingly uses its people as human shields to rack up deaths so they can claim victim status, perhaps, and this is just a thought, you should be talking to THEM, not to the country that is trying to defend itself from terrorist attacks. From Reuters:

[…] Even while stepping up U.S. pressure for Israeli restraint, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki reasserted Washington’s condemnation of Hamas’s “indiscriminate rocket attacks” targeting Israeli civilians and affirmed U.S. support for Israel’s right to defend itself.

“We continue to urge all parties to do all they can to protect civilians,” she told reporters at the State Department’s daily briefing. “We have been heart-broken by the high civilian death toll in Gaza.”

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry underscored in a telephone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday that “there’s more that can be done” by Israel to avoid civilian casualties and that it must redouble its efforts, Psaki said. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Good grief, what a PUTZ. (Sorry – I usually try not to name-call, but this is just ludicrous).

Of course, this is not the first time Kerry has been perversely one-sided when it comes to Israel and Hamas, this is just the latest time (just two weeks ago, he was demanding justice for the killed Arab youth in Israel. I don’t remember him doing the same for the three Israeli youths, including one American. I must have missed that. Ahem.).

Time will tell how this will play out, but it is time the World Community, including our leaders, held the terrorist group that keeps exercising violence to account, not the country trying to defend itself.


21 Responses to “The Good Doctor On Israel *Open Thread*”

  1. Katherine B Says:

    Quite a while ago, maybe 15-20 years, I went on a trip to Israel with an odd assortment of peacenik types. It was an interesting excursion as we went into Gaza, the Golan Heights, East Jerusalem and Nablus. We met with Palestinians and visited a hospital so we could see young kids injured by Israeli soldiers. We also visited some Israeli settlements, Haifa, and a major art museum in Jerusalem. The differences in culture, especially modernity, were amazing. What I realized then is what Krauthammer writes about above. Instead of using their talent, much of it educated in the U.S., to build roads, factories or modern hospitals they were intent on letting us know how very victimized they were.

    One interesting aside about the hospital visit…as our small group was gawking at the wounded children and their families, I peeled off from the group and wandered into the hallway. I encountered a Palestinian doctor who spoke excellent English and who wanted to know what we were doing. I told him and then I asked him where he got his medical training. He was trained as a doctor by Israel. Of course that didn’t fit into the agenda of this group and when I mentioned it later that night at dinner, there was silence in response. Cooperative ventures between Israelis and Palestinians was not what this group wanted to hear about.

    I fear that Israel is losing not the ground war but the PR war.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Katherine, that is FASCINATING!! I would love to hear more abt this trip. I really want to go to Israel someday (well, maybe not this very moment). Anyway, it sounds like quite the experience you had, but especially that the meme abt Israel doesn’t quite fit the reality abt Israel. I have seen numerous articles abt Israeli doctors fighting to save Palestinians, and how the two groups work together, especially in terms of medicine. But that is rarely the story we hear. Mainly it is abt how the big, bad Israel is relentlessly attacking poor Gaza and the Palestinians, as if there was no provocation, incessant bombing and attacks from Palestine.

      I think you summed it up beautifully. And it really begs the question WHY the US seems to be more on the side of the alleged victims rather than of her ally? Why do “peacenik” types support Palestine and ignore all the GOOD Israel has done as well as the tremendous amt of restraint they have shown while being attacked pretty much non-stop. I don’t get it.

      Thank you so much for sharing your experiences on this issue!

      • Katherine B Says:

        I’ve been to Israel three times and I find it fascinating. The first time I went I was living in Europe and It was soon after the 1972 Munich Olympics. I left from Stuttgart airport and the security was quite high. The El Al plane was parked further away from the terminal than other airplanes. Everyone was patted down. On the way back from Israel, their security was incredible. I had a travel iron that they made me plug in and wait to see if it got hot. I’ve never minded the security as I assumed it was for my welfare.

        Anyway, Israel is so small that you feel like you’ve gotten to know the place after just a couple of days. I was amazed at what they had achieved in agriculture and desalinization. Modern Jerusalem and Tel Aviv are stunning and very cosmopolitan. I don’t quite get why Palestinians don’t aspire to live that well also. In addition to the religious hatred there has to be some psychological block about prospering. In all three visits, there were incidents, usually on a small scale, involving Palestinian on Israeli or Jewish (tourist) violence.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Oh, wow, Katherine, I am both very envious of, and very glad for you that you have been able to travel there 3 times. That is so, so cool!

          Very interesting abt the security, though it sure makes sense. From what I have heard, the security there is very good, and they have no qualms profiling. I guess when you have had people trying to obliterate you from the face of the earth for some time you just don’t mess around.

          It’s a whole different mindset, isn’t it? The determination to prosper, to move forward to life, and all that entails (education, agriculture, medicine, etc.) for one country, and for the other, the desire to wreak havoc on one’s enemies no matter the cost to the people. It is a whole different way of being in the world, that’s for sure.

          If you ever feel like writing up something on your travels there, or share some photos, I, for one, would love to see them. And if you are at all inclined, but prefer they be private rather than public, I would be more than happy to give you my email address. 🙂

          • Katherine B Says:

            I’d be happy to write up something. I don’t know if I have any pictures that I can find. Please do send me your e-mail so I can send the article to you. It may not be until later next week.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            Oh, that would be AWESOME!!! I would love that, Katherine!

            If you click on the “About” section, there is an email address there you can use.


  2. Katherine B Says:

    I don’t know if you all have seen the report of the CNN correspondent who tweeted that Israelis were “scum” for cheering their armed forces’ incursion into Gaza to root out and destroy underground tunnels used to infiltrate and attack inside Israel. CNN was forced to apologize and has since reassigned her to Moscow. The story is on Brietbart but also has been briefly mentioned by another MSM outlet.

    For some reason this biased reporting infuriated me. So I sent an e-mail message to CNN suggesting that they show their correspondent, Diana Magnay, a video of the wildly cheering Palestinians dancing in the streets celebrating the deaths of nearly 3,000 people on 9/11. If any of you feel as outraged by CNN’s coverage as I am, please go to their feedback page at the the General Comments link (three down) and let them know what you think:

    I feel like I need to do something more than just coming here and preaching to the choir. So every day I’m going to try to actually DO something. Maybe we could start an action alert even just once a week with several suggested actions.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I think that is an OUTSTANDING idea, Katherine. I am all for having an “Action Center” to write to elected officials, or media outlets, or what/who ever has said something absurd/obscene/outrageous. Excellent idea. Maybe Fridays will start being an Action Day and people can list things that we can do to speak out.

      And good for you for doing so. You comment is spot on – Israelis are cheering taking out the terrorists – TERRORISTS – who are trying to KILL them. This is not the same as Palestinians and other Arabs cheering and celebrating at the attacks on 9/11, or other attacks on this country. Not even close.

      I think they should have reassigned her to Siberia, not Moscow. Isn’t that what they used to do in the “good ol’ days”?? WOW.

      Thanks for highlighting this. Here’s an article from The Blaze abt this woman and her Tweet, “CNN Pulls Reporter From Gaza Coverage Afetr She Tweets About ‘Scum” Israelis Next To Her.”

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Katherine – love your “action alert” idea. It is always comforting to come here and preach to the choir and to feel at home among like minded people. People who can agree and agree to disagree at times without name-calling. It keeps us from feeling so alone as we see only only POV depicted on the “news” channels of the MSM.

      I tend to fire off e-mails to entities that I am sure could care less what I think or feel about their words or actions. It is a release valve for me so I keep doing it.

      I felt that the “reporter” in question should have simply been fired. Since she was not it says to me, perhaps I’m wrong, that they agree with her.

      It seems to me, and again perhaps I’m wrong, that anti-Semitism is alive, well and accepted in this country today.

      E-mails to CNN and other media buffoons may not do anything but lower our blood pressure. Still, that’s a good thing isn’t it?

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I agree, Marge – I think she should have been fired, too. Her comments were, at the very least, completely unprofessional. I understand she and her crew were facing some difficulty, but you sure never heard Lara Logan Tweeting something like that, and I guarantee you, she had it a helluva lot tougher in Egypt than Diane did.

        Yes, firing off emails is a good thing, as are phone calls to our elected officials. I know too many don’t care what we say, but still, it gets us on the record, so there’s that.

        I also take action with my money and to whom I choose to give it. Those organizations often have “Action” opportunities as well.

        I need to see if I can figure out a way to have an Action Center on the blog so people can put in things that come up. They don’t have to be political necessarily. I’ll look into that.

  3. foxyladi14 Says:

    Pray for Israel. ❤

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, you know I am. I have heard several officials from Israel talking today abt how they are being depicted as the bad guys for defending themselves from Islamic extremists. It really is astonishing that they are being treated this way, INCLUDING from our Administration. Just stunning…

      So yes, they are in my prayers, no doubt abt it…

  4. Katherine B Says:

    I seem to be particularly chatty today for some reason. Yesterday I was reading an article at American Thinker and found a position paper issued by the ADL (Anti-Defamation League) about anti-Israel events on campuses in the U.S. It was quite long but I couldn’t stop reading. It is really stunning what is going on on American campuses. So today I contacted my local ADL chapter and offered to help in anyway I can. I think more non-Jewish people need to step up in solidarity with the Jewish and Israeli communities.

  5. GinaR Says:

    I’m watching Hannity interview Former U.S. Ambassador to the UN John Bolton (who I love!) and Bolton is saying that Obama is the least supportive president ever and that he’s almost hostile to the interests of Israel. It really is astonishing, isn’t it? I’m pretty sure Obie and Kerry would be just as happy to have Israel wiped off the face of the earth so they don’t have to deal with those pesky Jews any more. That way they can more overtly support the Muslim Brotherhood and groups like CAIR. The hatred of Israel and Jews by so many nations in this world is overwhelming. It’s frightening.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It really is staggering, isn’t it? I have never seen an Administration so hostile to Israel.

      And Hillary – I remember when she was running for Senator of NY – she couldn’t have BEEN more supportive of Israel. Until she went to work for Obama, that is. One is the true her, and one is the false her, or maybe she doesn’t care at all except how it impacts her politically. Hmmm…

      To see this Administration treat our enemies better than our allies, to see Obama go to the UN after our embassies were attacked and our ambassador killed, speaking out in support of Allah, said it all…

      I worry for Israel, and I pray for her. I am thankful SHE has a strong leader in Netanyahu.

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    Something to think about on a sunny Saturday morning.

    “The Paradoxical Commandments

    People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered.
    Love them anyway.

    If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish ulterior motives.
    Do good anyway.

    If you are successful, you will win false friends and true enemies.
    Succeed anyway.

    The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow.
    Do good anyway.

    Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable.
    Be honest and frank anyway.

    The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest men and women with the smallest minds.
    Think big anyway.

    People favor underdogs but follow only top dogs.
    Fight for a few underdogs anyway.

    What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight.
    Build anyway.

    People really need help but may attack you if you do help them.
    Help people anyway.

    Give the world the best you have and you’ll get kicked in the teeth.
    Give the world the best you have anyway.”

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    A friend at Facebook had this article up. The headline cracked me up, and demonstrates that Obama is just as delusional as Harry Reid:

  8. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Sharyl Attkisson had a very good piece today on all the missing missiles in Libya:

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