Talk About Some Strong Women *Open Thread*


One of my US Senators, Tim Scott, who is from the Charleston, SC area, has launched a “Women in Leadership” series here in SC. He has named the series for his mother, Frances Scott, as a way to honor her.

You may recall that Frances Scott is a single mother and worked hard to rear her children. I’d say she did pretty well considering one is a US Senator and the other is a Sergeant Major in the Army. Not too shabby…

Back to Senator Scott’s Women in Leadership series. Scott chose Carly Fiorina as the first to kick off the series which she did at our local community college. Check out some of what this powerful woman had to say on the issue of the so-called “War on Women.” From the Post and Courier:

[…] As national Democrats seek to gain leverage this election season by tackling the issue of unequal pay among women and men, Scott, R-S.C., brought in former Hewlett Packard CEO and GOP Senate hopeful Carly Fiorina to talk about that and other issues.

The question of equal pay was the first one posed Monday from the mostly female audience of about 300 at Trident Technical College in North Charleston.

Fiorina said everyone should support equal pay for equal work “because we need to, and in fact, way back in 1963, a law was passed to ensure equal pay for equal work, and since 1963, women have had recourse if they were not being paid equally for equal work.”


Fiorina has a unique perspective, as both first female CEO of a Fortune 500 company and a 2010 GOP candidate for the California Senate seat now held by Democrat Barbara Boxer.

Fiorina also chairs the American Conservative Union Foundation and two charities.

“I think the Democrats’ propaganda – and I will use that term when they holler about a ‘War on Women’ – is fallacious and insulting to women,” she said in an interview after the event. “And I think this piece of legislation, equal pay for equal work, it’s a nice title, but the truth is, it is Democrats who support seniority systems, and seniority systems are the greatest impediment to equal pay for equal work.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

I agree – so much of the pandering propaganda on the alleged “War on Women” is “fallacious and insulting.” From the “Life of Julia” crapola to convincing women they were incapable of being responsible for their own birth control without the help of the government, there is a whole lot that is offensive about the way Democrats treat women. What is more offensive, though, is how many women buy into it. That’s not just offensive, it is depressing.

Thank heavens there are some women, like Fiorina, who see through the propaganda.

And now onto another amazingly strong woman. The strength, the intestinal fortitude, the FAITH, this woman exhibited in the face of certain death, is nothing short of inspiring. That woman is Meriam Ibrahim, and below is an interview with Fox New’s Megyn Kelly from Monday night:

What this woman endured while imprisoned is just staggering. Giving birth while being chained, having both a toddler and a newborn in her jail cell, the threats, all of the time she was locked up, just astonishing. And it was her faith that kept her going. Thank heavens for all those who kept fighting on her behalf to get her out of this country where she was sentenced to die for her faith. Just amazing. Her strength is a lesson to us all.

Ibrahim’s comments about radical Islam are particularly pertinent at this time as we are on the verge of war with ISIS. And ISIS, despite Obama’s erroneous protestations to the contrary, is most definitely a radical ISLAMIST organization. This woman’s story should be a wake-up call to those who wish to deny this reality.

The last woman I want to highlight, but most definitely not the least, is Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Ali was invited to speak at Yale University Monday night. Predictably, there were some who did not want her to speak her truth. In this case, it was the Muslim Students Association who pitched a fit that someone might, based on her own personal experience, say something that would offend their delicate sensibilities. Honestly, I don’t really want to give the MSA a lot of space here – you can learn more about their letter decrying the choice of Ayaan Hirsi Ali to speak here.

That Ali continues to speak out despite threats against her life, and against the rabid objections of those who don’t want her message heard, speaks volumes about how strong this woman is. What continues to amaze me, though, are all those WOMEN who do not want to hear what this woman has to say, her experiences in radical Islam, her experience of genital mutilation at the hands of radical Islamists. That a NUMBER of women professors from the WOMEN’S STUDIES DEPARTMENT are the ones who signed the petition to keep Ali from speaking says it all about where so many liberal women are these days. It is just appalling that these professors signed on to this petition to silence speech, but even more, to silence the voice of a woman who went through unspeakable torture at the hands of religious fanatics. How very far we have fallen.

Until the video is available from Yale University, below is an interview with Megyn Kelly and Ayaan Hirsi Ali (after her being un-invited from Brandeis), focusing on her recent video, “Honor Diaries.” Should the Yale video become available, I will add it:

That voices like Ali’s are silenced by those who claim to stand for tolerance and enlightenment says so much about where our country is.

Again, at this time, when we are either at war with ISIS or on the brink of war (depending on who is speaking), maybe we need to pay a little more attention to the strong women in our midst, and what they have to say.

What is on your minds today? This is an Open Thread.


27 Responses to “Talk About Some Strong Women *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    It seems to me that if you will not allow women to speak, simply because you do not agree with what they, that you are waging a war not only on women but on free speech itself. Given that the Dems recently tried to do just that I am not surprised.

    There is little that the Democrats can do any more to surprise me any more. They have lost all sense of honesty and decency.
    As for the so-called “feminists”, they are no such thing. They are simply liberal women who would shut up and shut down any woman who doesn’t follow their narrow ideology.

    Case in point – I watch a video of “The View” from yesterday. I did take anti-nausea medication first but I was still sickened by the despicible Rosie Perez asking Nicolle Wallace if she wanted to “pop” Sarah Palin. Wallace went along with that and laughed too. Some conservative huh? I didn’t watch “The View” since I find the women on their “panel” mostly loud mouthed fools. With Rosie O’Donnell and Rosie Perez around that won’t change. Nor will Nicolle Wallace be a voice for conservative women – she’s a POS IMHO.

    As for Whoopi – she’s done nothing of value since “The Color Purple”, although I did like “Jumping Jack Flash”. Now she’s just another Black woman with a chip on her shoulder and the idea she’s a victim.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      One point I was trying to make, and missed entirely, is that back when I first became interested in feminism Sarah Palin would have been exactly the kind of woman the left would have fawned over. In fact if she was a Democrat they still would do so. I just loathe the phoniness of it all.

      As you pointed out Rev, the left doesn’t want strong women. Quite the contrary – they encourage whiny little wimps, like “Julia” who need a big strong “government” to take care of them. And their bodies belong to them and are to be passed around to the horny little boys like cheap O’devours.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Great comments, Marge. And smart of you to take some anti-nausea meds before watching “The View.” That kind of comment – wanting to “pop” Sarah Palin – why? What the hell did she do to this woman? Speak her mind?? Be strong? Work her way to the top, do a great deal for her people, and be incredibly popular? Oh, all while rearing a family, including a special needs child? Is that why they hate her so much? Because she is EVERYTHING feminists used to say we wanted for women??? (Just to prove your point…)

        The animus toward first Clinton, then Palin, based not on their platforms, but because they are successful, has been eye-opening. Whenever someone would start going off on Palin, I would ask what they didn’t like abt her. They were hard pressed to come up with anything concrete, just the idea of her, all thanks to Ezra Klein and his JournoListers. That so many people were duped by these journalists who aimed to bury her lest she impact Obama is just sad.

        But that so many alleged feminists continue to tear her down simply for existing and speaking out says a lot more abt THEM than it does abt her.

        Anyway, excellent comments, Marge!

  2. Katherine B Says:

    I find it amazing that in colleges and universities in this country faculty, administrators and students are willing to sell Jews out at the drop of a hat, but bend themselves into virtual pretzels to defend and promote Moslems. Moslems, it seems, must never be offended.

    Just a reminder to these effete snobs: It is not the Jews who beheading people. It is not the Jews who are burying people alive. It is not the Jews who are marching hundreds of captured soldiers to a ditch and then are executing them.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I also find it amazing – and dismaying. When did anti-semitism become okay in this country?

      • cindyindie Says:

        Marge—The “leader” of the Free World is such a Muslim sympathizer…..and I believe the first day of his presidency ushered-in the new anti-Semitic era in America., with, surprisingly, some American Jewish support!
        I do not understand any Jew who does not support Israel….but there are so many in this country….
        The Left has convinced women that Sarah Palin is an anti-woman and a joke, convinced the blacks that Herman Cain–and any other conservative black– is a “buffoon” (see my comment below), that Lindsay Graham is a gay Barney Fife hick, and that Israel is demonic. Israel!
        Oh, and ISIS is not Islamic….don’t forget that one….

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          The left may have convinced “some” women, the inferior ones, of all that you mentioned. The rest of us know better. We are proud when we stand on our own two feet. It disgusts me that women went from “I am woman hear me roar”, to “I am women hear me whine”.

          And most of it begins with greed. How much can the poor little wimps get for free? That isn’t what I thought women were all about. Now I think it’s all a whole lot of women are about, and blacks, and whoever, they will vote for the party promising them the most free crap. They disgust me no end. Ugh!

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            True enough – we do know better. You summed it up beautifully abt from where we came to where we are now. To go from wanting to be fully independent to wanting the government to provide all for us and to take care of us.

            Along those lines, I was thinking this morning abt how feminists just FREAKED out when Senator Ron Johnson questioned Clinton abt Benghazi. He did not ask anything out of line, but you would have thought he had been verbally abusive to her the way women’s groups went on and on abt the mean old white man and how he treated poor little ol’ Hillary. If she is that weak, that delicate, that easily cowed, she has no business even THINKING of running for president. But even more was that women’s groups, especially the professional feminists, were so outraged b Clinton’s treatment.

            Funny, they saw no problem with the way Obama treated her, and other women, but whatever…

            Yep – they disgust me, too.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is astonishing that so many of these women go out of their way to support groups like the MSA not thinking that maybe, just maybe, they don’t think all that highly of women. Or Jews, for that matter, though as you note, since anti-Semitism is a permissible form of intolerance, I guess that doesn’t matter.

      Just like it is okay to be sexist and misogynistic as long as one’s target is Conservative. Then it is completely acceptable, and even encouraged. Ugh.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        If more women were as concerned about what is between their ears as they are about what is between their legs they might see things a lot more clearly.

        Women have made enormous strides in this country and if they haven’t broke that final “glass” ceiling they have no one but themselves to blame since in 2008 they chose a mediocre community organizer for the color of his skin when they could have voted for a woman. Then if we didn’t agree with their choice we were racist – this time around and Hillary’s second chance the buzz word is misogynist. Truthfully, and I know that’s difficult for the left, the worst misogynists in 2008 came at both Hillary and Sarah Palin from the left.

        I will never vote for Hillary. I did once and that’s my limit. She was never the woman I thought she was and only just passed the “better than Obama” test. Mitt Romney was a better man than either Hillary or Obama IMHO then and now.

        And now, OMG, she’s baaack…

  3. cindyindie Says:

    Cuz—an excellent post—Thank you for telling us about Sen. Tim Scott’s project. he’s fantastic! And yes, Ms. Ibrahim and Ms. Ali are incredible women!!

    I have to say, in response to the phonies of the Left, echoed by KenoshoMarge, y’all should spend a little time (very little!) reading comments on a Leftist blog—WOW What insight and what a remarkable trove of anti-gay and anti-women treasures! You cannot believe what was said about Sen. Lindsay Graham!!! Such homophobic venom…..making fun of him, etc because he acts feminine……And of course, including sextist jabs also….All because he’s Republican and Sarah Palin is Conservative…..That’s the ONLY reason. It is remarkable to see their hypocrisy thrown into such stark relief! Herman Cain was even called a “buffoon” in one of their discussion how badly the whites in the South have treated and still treat, blacks…….But Herman Cain is a “buffoon” because he’s Conservative!!
    I mean, we all KNOW how two-faced the Left is, but to read their brutal venomous statements that are so incredibly hateful….I swear! This is a hackneyed reference, but they really DID remind me of what I’ve read about the Nazi regime’s demonization of good people.
    Spot on!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks so much, Cuz’n! I appreciate it!

      Senator Scott really does seem to be one of the good guys. His mother is a very strong woman. She, along with teachers he had along the way, have helped him to get to where he is now. And he is not afraid of, or threatened by, strong women, unlike so many of these Lefties seem to be.

      I swear, I have never seen such blatant homophobia, sexism, and racism, as I have seen coming from the Left. It is amazing to me they claim to speak for the LGBT community considering the most virulent homophobic comments I have seen have come from the Left. I reckon they just get to demand that everyone else be tolerant, not them…

      • cindyindie Says:

        Oh—I forgot one more: on the Liberal comments blog—-they made fun of little Trig Palin. Can you believe that?!

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Sadly, yes I can…They would be the first ones to go ballistic should anyone else say something derogatory or demeaning, but have no qualms making snide comments themselves. Just amazing the hypocrisy, as Marge noted…

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          Not the first time they’ve made fun of that little boy and won’t be the last. When you have no decency it’s easy to do such things.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      The ugliness of the remarks shows the ugliness of the soul. Left or right, black or white, male or female. If all you have to contribute is name-calling then you have nothing to contribute.

      I have been known to call names from time to time, so guilty as charged. However I can also debate issues and repeat facts and point of errors that the talking point people regurgitate. I am a long way from perfect but I am also a long way from them. And I’m damn proud of that.

  4. Katherine B Says:

    I don’t want to come across as a heartless “rhymes with witch,” as Barbara Bush once famously said, but why the hell are we sending 3,000 American military personnel to three African countries to contain the Ebola outbreak? Don’t these countries, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, have their own military forces? Why don’t they use their own military? And if those forces are so incompetent that they can’t do the job then why doesn’t the U.N. deploy its peacekeeping forces? Why is this our responsibility alone?

    • cindyindie Says:

      I’m with you, Katharine….especially since Obama has encouraged illegal children, many with diseases, to come into my state where my grandchildren live!
      Why doesn’t he EVER do anything for his own people??!!!

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        EXCELLENT questions, y’all. Yes, I have been wondering that same thing – and why are we putting the health of our military at risk by sending them to the places where Ebola is rampant??? I am sure they will take all kinds of precautions, but I am betting the DOCTORS who ended up with it were being cautious, too. It just seems incredibly odd to me. No boots on the ground in the country where people are attacking us, but we will essentially put them in harm’s way in a different arena.

        And yes – why not send the UN instead of the US?

        Cuz, spot on – why are American lives apparently second thoughts to this president rather than the FIRST thought??

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I just heard Charles Krauthammer speaking abt this. Apparently, our military will be dealing more with logistics, because we are good at moving people. But still – that’s a LOT of boots on the ground when we are facing another major threat.

        Add to that Katherine’s point abt the UN, to which we give a gazillion dollars. Why aren’t THEY moving in there?

        There is concern, apparently, abt mutation, and as George Will pointed out, people can travel around the globe much easier these days, so yeah – it’s a big problem.

        Oh, and they mentioned that it could decimate West Africa…

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          If the UN Peace Keeping Forces aren’t up to the logistics task what the hell are they doing?

          Yes Americans always step up when there is a crisis, especially a media one. And in this case containing the disease could be in our own best interests as well as for humanitarian reasons. Still will we ever get tired of helping people and getting kicked in the teeth for it? Will the time ever come when Americans are tired of trying to do what’s right while being reviled and attacked?

          And Cindy makes an excellent point – we go to Africa to fight a terrible disease while allowing the invasion of our southern border, and ultimately the entire country, by people carrying diseases that we have mostly eradicated here.

          Maybe I am a “heartless – rhymes with witch” but while I am all for helping others you start by helping your own. If your own are not safe and secure how can you possibly help anyone else? JMO.

          • kenoshamarge Says:

            Fingers typing fast than brain working again this morning – 2nd paragraph is supposed to read: “Yes Americans always step up when there is a crisis, especially a MEDICAL on.”

            Spell check can’t always help and mine only works when it feels like it anyway.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            You both make good points, Marge – if the UN cannot handle this, a health crisis as opposed to a military/war crisis, that does not say much abt their abilities.

            And Cindy was spot on – people flooding the border are bringing in all KINDS of diseases. It is troubling indeed that our elected officials have become so derelict in their duties for what they see as a future voting bloc. This isn’t abt being humane – if that was the concern, we would assist their countries of origin with medical aid and get these diseases eradicated THERE, not let them bring it HERE.

            That self- care thing is mighty important, is it not?

  5. HELENK3 Says:

    some one agrees with me about “Just Because”

  6. HELENK3 Says:

    the inconvenient internet

  7. HELENK3 Says:

    why is this not a surprise

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