And They Wonder Why They Lost… *Open Thread*


There has been big news this week about President Obama’s plan to sign with his magic pen a 10-point (lawless) Executive Action to aid and abet illegal aliens in the country. The depth and breadth of this plan is stunning, with new insights into this plan coming out daily.

For instance, just Thursday, it was revealed that one of Obama’s big plans was to provide 4.3 MILLION work permits to illegal aliens. Yep, you read that right, 4.3 MILLION.

Wow. Never mind that there are Americans in this country, MILLIONS of them, who have given up looking for work. Never mind that the TRUE unemployment rate is 11.5%. Never mind that as it is, the majority of new jobs created are PART-TIME jobs. Obama is going to allow people here ILLEGALLY to compete with Americans for what few jobs there are available. He really does seem to have forgotten just which people he was elected to represent.

As bad as his Executive Action is, what is worse is the Democrats who have NO problem with what Obama plans to do. In fact, the comparisons some of these Democrats are making are just ASTONISHING. From the Daily Caller:

[…] The comments were reported by Bloomberg Politic’s Dave Weigel, who sat in on the meeting, which was called by staunch amnesty advocate Illinois Representative Luis Gutierrez. “Georgia Representative Hank Johnson compared the possible executive order to the Emancipation Proclamation,” Weigel recounted, adding that Johnson also “speculated about which of its defenders would star in a movie adaptation of the struggle.”

Another over-the-top quote from the meeting came from Texas Representative Sheila Jackson Lee: “We will circle the president on fire. We will be on fire for rightness and justice.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Are you KIDDING me with this? Rep. Johnson is equating this unlawful action on behalf of this president to the EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION??? Wow. Just wow.

Then again, Rep. Hank Johnson is that total brain-trust who was convinced that Guam would, and I am not making this up, “tip over and capsize into the ocean.” Stunningly, he continues to be re-elected, so there you go.

And Rep. Jackson-Lee is not exactly a Mensa candidate herself, but still. There are too many Democrats who are all gung-ho for Obama to break the law, and violate the Constitution, including Democratic leader, Rep. Steny Hoyer:

Once again, Hoyer muddies the water by trying to equate quantity vs. quality. As it is, the “Dream Act” that Obama penned has had a tremendously adverse effect on our nation, essentially throwing wide our borders. And the Democrats want to do even more of the same? Awesome.

Never mind that Immigration is FAR from the major priority for Americans. What is? The economy, of course, followed by health care, as this Fox poll demonstrates. Oh, and about two-thirds of the nation thinks we are on the wrong track. So what does Obama chose to focus on given that? Well, Illegal aliens, of course!

Never mind, too, that such a move would be an “impeachable offense,” as Charles Krauthammer said so well on Megyn Kelly (via

Of course, Rep. Trey Gowdy made it very clear to Hannity why that will never happen. From the Daily Caller:

[…] Gowdy shut down talk of impeachment with a simple one-liner: “Have you met Joe Biden?” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

As many of us suspected. Why else pick Biden for VP with so many MORE qualified people available? Yep.

Perhaps Obama doing this is a good thing in a way. Why? Because as noted above, the majority of Americans oppose Obama’s amnesty plan by a lot, which could come back to haunt the Democrats. From the Daily Caller:

[…] “If the president takes his action on the amnesty, he will make it easier for the Republicans to win in 2016,” said Kellyanne Conway, who recently polled 2014 voters about their attitudes toward immigration. “The angriest person should be Hillary Clinton,” Conway added.

“I think the numbers in this are well in the 60s [percent] against him. … This could break the back of the Democratic Party,” said Pat Caddell, a former pollster for President Jimmy Carter who is sharply critical of both parties’ support for high levels of immigration.

“This is a really, really bad move,” said Whit Ayres, founder of North Star Opinion Research, which polls for GOP candidates. In June 2013, Ayres polled the public about immigration for Mark Zuckerberg, the owner of Facebook. Asked by TheDC if there’s any polling evidence that an Oval Office amnesty would not backfire on Obama, Ayres responded “not that I’ve seen.”

The risk to Obama and the Democrats is made worse given that Obama just lost an election. “It’s going to come across as an illegitimate and crassly political move by a desperate president,” Ayres told MNSBC. […]

Oh, and about that whole work permit thing? Yeah, folks aren’t too happy about that, either:

[…] The impact on working Americans is also a sensitive issue. Recent polls shows that Americans lopsidedly want new jobs to go to their fellow Americans, not foreign workers. “Eighty percent of Americans straight up said that any newly created jobs should go to American workers,” Conway said. “It is a matter of fairness to them.”

Obama is expected to provide residency documents and work permits to at least four million illegals.

That’s a huge number, and is equal to the number of Americans who will turn 18 this year. If implemented, Obama’s permit program would create almost one new legal foreign worker for every two Americans now looking for work, and one foreign worker for every two jobs added since 2009. […]
(Click here to read the rest.)

How about them apples, huh? Yep, young AMERICANS are going to be in major competition with people here illegally. Nice. Oh, and the Daily Caller article did mention that the GOP was looking at a way to use the Power of the Purse to rein in those work permits Obama wants to hand out like candy on Halloween.

So, yeah, next week is when Obama is threatening to use that damn pen of his. But this could come back to bite him, and the Democrats, in a BIG way in 2016. I think this sums it up:

Yep, it will serve them right to suffer, especially for continuing to go against the will of the People. Hey, we can hope, right? And we can hope the GOP does not back down on this. Elections have consequences after all. And the Democrats wonder why they lost…

This is an Open Thread.

44 Responses to “And They Wonder Why They Lost… *Open Thread*”

  1. HELENK3 Says:

    you and Victor Davis Hanson

  2. foxyladi14 Says:

    But Obama don’t need no stinking lessons Helen.
    He already knows it all. 👿

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      True enough that Obama THINKS he knows it all. Never mind how many times he has been proven not just wrong, but HORRIBLY wrong, he continues to act like he knows it all…

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Do the Democrats wonder why they lost? Many, including POTUS don’t seem aware that they did lose. Of course Obama seems more concerned with those that chose not to vote than with those that did. WTH?

    And then there are morons like this:

    Black Liberal Intellectual Downplays Mia Love’s Historic Election

    I have said many times that I believe the worst racsists in this country are black. This only confirms my belief.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Great article, Marge. It is astonishing the mental gymnastics these folks will do in order to push their memes. To demonize someone like Mia Love, who was elected a mayor of her town, is just disturbing. I might add, disgusting.

      And yeah – you are right abt POTUS and Dems not accepting that they lost. In a BIG way.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Daniel Greenfield had another good post today.

    Life Under the Victimocracy


  5. HELENK3 Says:

    dems could pass internet tax during lame duck session

  6. GinaR Says:

    Part of the reason Obama thinks he can do whatever he wants and suffer no consequences is because for the past 6 years that’s exactly what’s happened. The Republicans, under the leadership of the establishment old guard do-nothings like Boehner and McConnell, have completely abdicated their Constitutional power and let this administration move forward with its “fundamental transformation” of this country. So why should Obama stop now? He’s not up for reelection. He has nothing to lose. He’s accomplishing everything he set out to do. He’s destroyed the health care system, fed the flames of racism, taken political correctedness to a catastrophic level, given power in this country to radical Islamists like CAIR, shattered our relationship with Israel, dismantled our armed services at a time when we should be building it up…and that’s just off the top of my head. He’s responsible for Benghazi, Fast & Furious, the NSA, the IRS, the VA…and what consequences has he suffered? None.

    The old guard is making noises now, but they are as weak and ineffective as ever; they have no new plans or visions. The Republicans in Congress showed their true colors when they re-elected Boehner and McConnell to continue down their same-old same-old path. They are wasting their energy fighting Ted Cruz rather than realizing that the people who put the Republicans in charge of the Congress in this past election WANT to see a new, stronger, conservative vision like Ted Cruz has.

    While I’m pleased the GOP has taken back Congress, with Boehner and McConnell still in control I hold out little hope that they will do anything different than they’ve done for the past 6 years. We can see what THAT’s led to.

    And unless they wake up at some point in the next 2 years, I have serious doubts about what the outcome will be in 2016.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Well gee, Gina – when you put it like THAT…

      It is telling that BOTH parties put back into power the same people as before. I am more disturbed by Pelosi and Reid (really??? Oh, wait – it is apparently sexist to question Pelosi still being the Minority leader). At least Boehner isn’t demonstrably off his rocker like Pelosi is, or nasty, vindictive, and assholic, like Reid is.

      But I get your point abt them allowing Obama to run roughshod all over them. I can understand the first two years when the Dems were in power and (some) people did not yet see the extent of Obama’s effect on this nation. The next four years is a different story, though. The sound and fury have not prevented Obama from getting away with all he did, especially in terms of the DOJ and Holder. Well, that is one part of what Obama has done.

      I just have to hope with the Reps having BOTH houses now that more can be done to rein Obama in. Denigrating other senators like Cruz, though, is not the way to get that done (talking to you, McCain, as if YOU did enough to keep Obama out of our White House).

      Great comment, Gina – so nice to *see* you here!

      • GinaR Says:

        LOL….I jest sez it like I seez it, Rev.

        You’re right about Pelosi and Reid back in power. So, apparently, the Dems LIKE the way Congress has been run by their leadership. Of course, you’re both sexist AND ageist by questioning either of them. And yeah, at least Boehner isn’t as all-out crazy as Pelosi or as mean and vindictive as Reid. He’s just…well….spineless.

        You nailed it about McCain. I wish he’d just shut up about Cruz and the Tea Party. While I will always honor McCain for his service and sacrifice to and for this country, his time as a politician is long past over. We NEED some new blood like Cruz, Gowdy, Chaffetz, Scott, Love, Jordan…McCain and the old guards like him are going to destroy any chance the GOP has of taking the White House in 2016 if they don’t wise up.

        And…nice to be “seen!” And now, back to the cave to get some work done.

        Excellent post as always, Ames!

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          That I know, Gina, that I know – one of the many reasons I love you!

          And yes, Boehner talks a good game, but so far talk is all it has been.

          As for McCain, why in the HELL is he going on abt Cruz?? They are from the same party after all. And presumably, they need to work together at some point. While, like you, I value McCain’s service, and his tremendous sacrifices, for this nation, it is time for him to retire. Not for nothing, but Cruz is a very smart man – according to Alan Dershowitz. Can’t say that abt many of the folks in Congress, can you?

          As for 2016, a friend mentioned on Facebook that the Dems are seriously considering putting forth that liar, fraud and hypocrite, Elizabeth Warren, for whom they manufactured a leadership position. WOW.

          Speaking of, as I responded to a comment by mcnorman on the previous post, this whole thing with Pelosi playing the victim, acting like it is SEXISM that is behind people questioning whether she should keep her position, continues to demonstrate her delusion. It isn’t SEXISM – it is because under her “leadership,” the Dems have lost a BUNCH of members in the past two elections. Then again, since, as Marge noted, they won’t admit they actually lost (more delusion), perhaps she is unaware (thus making her even more incompetent and inept).

          Thanks so much, Gina – and thanks for coming by!

  7. HELENK3 Says:

    here is another gruber tape . usually it is three strikes and you are out, this guy is now up to five

  8. HELENK3 Says:

    exclusive interview with the guy who found the gruber tapes

    This man did what the msm should have done

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Holy smokes, Helen – that is just stunning that it was just one guy who decided to look something up.

      And no doubt, he did the work the MSMS was remiss in doing (and still is by and large).

      Good for him. And good for us that he researched Gruber.

    • mcnorman Says:

      The msm is looking a lot like Russia’s Pravda in the 50s.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      MSM has been too busy genuflecting in Obama’s direction for the last 7 years to bother with a little thing like doing their damn job. The best, and most honest thing about the MSM is the title of Bernie Goldberg’s book – A Slobbering Love Affair. I find such fits of puppy love annoying in an adolescent. I find it disgusting in adults.

  9. HELENK3 Says:

    the keystone pipeline bill just passed the house

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      When I first saw this, I wondered why in the hell the House would go along with a vote on this since it was CLEAR Mary Landrieu brought it up in the Senate to pad her re-election chances.

      But then I read this Hill article, and found out why. Her opponent, Bill Cassidy, is the one who sponsored it in the House:

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Is this ironic or what? She has to push a bill introduced by her opponent in order to show that she is helping the energy industry in Louisiana. You just can’t make stuff like this up.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          You really can’t, can you? Just astonishing. It isn’t like they couldn’t have done that any time over the past couple of years. Despite Obama’s foot-dragging, the State Dept has already come out saying this would work, so the only reason NOT to have brought it up for a vote, thank you Harry Reid, was politics. Now the only reason to bring it up is politics. Just makes me nuts.

  10. HELENK3 Says:

    House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., says it’s the ‘intention’ for the House to adjourn after it passes the appropriations bill by Dec. 11 – @cimarcos
    see original on

  11. HELENK3 Says:

    CNN warns viewer they are about to hear the National Anthem.

    it is getting nuttier by the day in this country. All those who fought and died for her must be turning in their graves

  12. HELENK3 Says:

    libs just do not get what real journalism is

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Attkisson has been very clear that she has taken BOTH sides to task, an “inconvenient truth” for liberals. What am I saying? They just ignore it and continue on with their unbiased claims. Pathetic.

  13. HELENK3 Says:

    per Ace of Spades there is a 6th gruber video. the man who found the videos says it will get worse

  14. HELENK3 Says:

    what is going on here??

  15. HELENK3 Says:

    From Senator Ted Cruz

  16. HELENK3 Says:

    Officer Wilson’s radio calls

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Very interesting – thanks for this, Helen. That Wilson’s radio channel got changed is disturbing…

  17. kenoshamarge Says:

    MSNBC Stumped Trying to Figure Out Any Rationale Hillary Has to Run for President

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      If I remember correctly all the pundits were predicting that if Ted Kennedy entered the race he would squash Carter like a bug. That didn’t turn out so “inevitable” did it?

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Excellent point, Marge – and Kennedy fought like hell at the Convention, unlike Hillary last time around. And everyone thought SHE was the inevitable candidate until the DNC fixed it for Obama. That is something for which I will never forgive them. I seriously doubt that Hillary would have taken us down this same path had she been president, or at least not so far down as we are now.


  18. foxyladi14 Says:

    I sure wish we had moved to Arizona instead of Ohio. Brrrr! 😦

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, I understand. But I am down below Charleston, SC, and we are currently at 43. It’s gone up since I got up this morning. “BRRRRR” is right!

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