At Long Last, Now It’s Wilson’s Turn *Open Thread*


We have been hearing from ALL sorts of people about the results of the Grand Jury in Ferguson regarding Officer Darren Wilson. We have Al Sharpton running off at the mouth (what else is new), calling for sanctions against Ferguson (no, really, he is. Can you believe this guy?), among other things he’s inciting. We have Obama speaking out – AGAIN – about what happened in Ferguson. At least this time, Obama is clear about violence being bad as opposed to being “deconstructive,” as he said Monday night. (Tuesday night, it was that he has “no sympathy” for it.)

And then there is the Attorney General of the United States, the top law enforcer of the land, Eric Holder. This is what Holder had to say about the rioting (and worse) in Ferguson and elsewhere. Oh, this is good:

Yes, our “illustrious” Attorney General said:

It is clear, I think that acts of violence threaten to drown out those who have legitimate voices, legitimate demonstrators and those acts of violence cannot and will not be condoned.

WOW. I think Charles Krauthammer summer up my sentiment on “Special Report’s All Star Panel” tonight (Tuesday):

[…] You get the Attorney General condemning the arson and the looting by saying that it threatens to drown out legitimate voices. That’s not the reason that this is wrong. It’s because it is wrong. It’s because it’s an assault on other people, it’s an assault on the law. (Emphasis mine.) I was watching this live, and when he said the acts of violence cannot and will not be, I’m waiting for the word tolerated. He is the Attorney General of the United States, and he uses the word condoned. Is there anybody who thinks that arson and looting ought to be condoned? I think that is an astonishing statement by an attorney general. And again, the contrast with the president is very stark.

BAIER: In the meantime, the federal investigation continues despite what the grand jury came up with last night.

KRAUTHAMMER: It will go nowhere. I think he’s doing it as a way to placate the people who are angry. I think it will end up where the Trayvon Martin federal investigation went, which was to determine that that there wasn’t a case. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Uh, yeah. I could not agree more on both counts – the actions of the lawless across the land burning, looting, shooting, and more, should get a slightly stronger response than, “we can’t condone that sort of thing.” Ugh. And no doubt, Holder is pushing an investigation forward to see if there is any chance to hang Wilson out to dry.

There are some good and sane voices out there, too, thank heavens.

And at long last, we get to hear the voice of the man who is at the center of this event, Officer Darrell Wilson himself. Wilson spoke to George Stephanopoulos about that fateful night. Allahpundit had more at Hot Air:

[…] What he told the grand jury:

The two men scuffled, Wilson said, and when he struggled to gain some control over the situation “and not be trapped in my car anymore,” he grabbed Brown’s arm. “The only way I can describe it is I felt like a 5-year-old holding on to Hulk Hogan.”…

When Wilson drew his gun from inside his car and told Brown to get back or he would shoot, the officer said, “he immediately grabs my gun and says, ‘You are too much of a [coward] to shoot me.’”

Wilson said he pulled his gun because “I felt that another one of those punches in my face could knock me out or worse.” Brown was bigger than the 6-foot-4 officer, and stronger, too. “I’d already taken two to the face, and I didn’t think I would, the third one could be fatal if he hit me right.”

Wilson ultimately got out of the car, and Brown began to run away. Then he stopped. And turned. And began to run back toward the officer. He made a fist with his left hand and reached under his shirt with his right. Wilson testified that he kept telling him to get on the ground. Brown didn’t.

That’s the first account I’ve seen that Brown made a move that might have looked like he was reaching for a weapon. Wilson had plenty of support from eyewitnesses, though, that Brown charged him after he got out of the car. Why Brown would do that, having tried and failed to snatch a cop’s gun and being unarmed himself, is mystifying to me. According to the autopsy, he had nothing stronger than weed in his system. He was, or would soon be, wanted for the strong-arm robbery at the convenience store and he had just hit a policeman in the face and tried to seize his weapon. What was the plan in charging a now-alarmed Wilson, who had his pistol drawn? Nothing makes sense except that the guy was in a blind rage — in which case, yeah, go figure that Wilson thought he might get badly hurt if he didn’t fire.[…] (Click here to read the rest.)

How frightening that must have been for Wilson. Can you imagine someone being so powerful, so large, that a 6’4″ man feels like a child? Holy smokes.

Here is Officer Wilson describing his encounter with Michael Brown:

Holy smokes. Holy smokes. The piece about the gun, and trying to shoot but having the gun not go off because of Michael Brown’s hand on top of the gun trying to take it away, wow. But even more was that Wilson had already been punched. Considering how big Brown was, no wonder Wilson was worried about being knocked out by Brown. Listening to Wilson, combined with all the other evidence, it seems clear that the Grand Jury could no nothing other than what it did – no indictment.

Officer Wilson does not deserve to lose his livelihood over this, but lose it he surely will, thanks in large part to the usual suspects. One thing is clear: it was him or Brown. And as Thanksgiving approaches, I am sure he and his wife are thankful, not glad, but thankful, that he is still alive, and able to be a father to his baby-on-the-way.

Speaking of Thanksgiving, as of early Wednesday afternoon, we will be on our way to Virginia to have Thanksgiving with my great aunt, June, who is almost 98 years old. As always, I welcome your comments, but will not necessarily get to them right away.

This is an Open Thread, friends. Feel free to discuss Ferguson, Wilson, the Race Baiting Charlatans, or other matters on your minds. And if you are traveling, too, be careful out there!


58 Responses to “At Long Last, Now It’s Wilson’s Turn *Open Thread*”

  1. insanitybytes22 Says:

    Wasn’t that astounding? Neither Holder or President Obama said what needed to be said, what leadership would have said, and that would have been a flat out “no.” No, violence will not be tolerated, it will be strongly condemned and punished. Then they should have said something about having some respect for the innocent small business owners of Ferguson and the community and residents there.

    Also, have a Happy Thanksgiving, Rev Amy!

  2. kinthenorthwest Says:

    WOW—The statement from Wilson. I can just picture it..Sent chills up me.
    Damn–Like I have said so many times before– If I had someone who had just slugged me several times, tried to steal my weapon, would not listen to authority, suspected of another crime, and ??? turn around and come charging at me I sure as the H3LL am Not going to be trying to give him a nice warm hug and ask him to sit down for some tea…I would be probably shaking and using anything I had to prevent him from getting at me again. In Officer Wilson’s case that was a gun; which if me I would have emptied into the charging bull.
    Every time I hear the excuse Brown’s behavior or saying that Wilson should have shot him the legs, or called for backup, or so many other excuses I go Livid.
    There is no excuse for Leslie McSpadden not teaching her son some respect for others, and to not use his size as a way to get whatever he wanted. Due to the actions of her and her current husband, I do not feel they taught Brown any type of respect.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Exactly, Kin – it was clear that Brown was being not just uncooperative but belligerent and downright dangerous. Trying to grab Wilson’s gun ALONE demonstrated his intent. And for Wilson to say he felt like a five yr old compared to Brown says a ton. So, yeah, if he’s charging repeatedly, refusing to stop, and already assaulted/attacked, then Wilson had to do what he had to do…

      • kinthenorthwest Says:

        Damn I am going to SCREAM if I read or hear the words “Brown did not deserve to die because he stole some cigars”
        No wonder our nation is so screwed up, none of the idiots supporting Mike Brown’s Thug family have even looked at the real facts.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Good grief. To make that kind of argument is completely illogical. The stealing of the cigars was what led to his being stopped by the police. His actions thereafter are what led to his death. And they were his actions that caused it. That is the bottom line.

          But it does not fit their race baiting narrative, so they will go with the bogus claim instead, and act all high and mighty when they do it, too…

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Wilson speaking out, the facts, the Grand Jury mean nothing to those who are predisposed to be outraged.

    Jason Riley at the Wall Street Journal has very good article about the race baiters and how the left are destroying black America.

    I still haven’t got my computer back and this “refurbished” one I bought to tide me over is so slow and locks up so often I won’t try to provide a link. What’s worse it makes it almost impossible to use. What’s worse Lou went to Time Warner yesterday, going is much better than calling if you have an option, and they sent him home with some kind of new modem box and a ton of cables. He’s supposed to connect all that sh*t up even though he hasn’t a clue. I will be on the phone to them as soon as the office opens and give them a good talking to. They need to send a tech out to the house and hopefully one that knows what he/she is doing. The last one that was here didn’t know as much as Lou did and he’s a long way from tech savvy.

    Anyway, hope you all have a great Holiday! Be well, be safe and be content.

    And don’t be this:

  4. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Well, no DUH, Senator Schumer! Are you just now figuring this out??? Good grief. I guess he must have a re-election bid coming up in 2016 or something:

  5. piper Says:

    Hopefully will remember password as I’m using iPad to post – in Minnesota for good food and friends. Enjoyed the train ride great way to travel. Happy thanksgiving to all!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, how wonderful, Piper! I LOVE trains! Helen has quite a bit of experience on trains too, right, Helen? What a lovely way to get to your Thanksgiving destination!

      • HELENK3 Says:

        the only way to travel. someone else drives, you see the scenery and meet people from all over the world. you have room in the seats and are not squeezed in like a sardine. On long distance trains the on board service people do a great job of helping you.

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Sounds like fun–Haven’t been on trains in ages. Will say I remember trains as being easier to sleep on, cause they kind of rock you to sleep.

  6. piper Says:

    I have to wonder if mike s mother didn’t t have advanced knowledge of no indictment decision.

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      I will make a bet she did.
      It is time to get on with her cases, her unemployment fraud from prior to her son’s death and her felony assault on Brown’s grandmother.

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Okay, MARGE – I wanted to let you know the results of last night’s DWTS finale.

    SPOILER ALERT!!!! Don’t read any more if you have dvr’ed it!

    And the Winner was: Alphonso. He was phenomenal, though, and deserved the win.

    Second place was SADIE. Yes, the young woman with NO prior dancing experience came in at second, and it was legitimate. She was AWESOME.

    Obviously, then, Janel came in third. She was amazing. I swear, this was a VERY close Finale.

    Get this, there is a DWTS show they will be taking on the road. Janel will make an appearance, and Alphonso will be on tour with them. He said they were working HARD to get Sadie to join them, too. I hope she does. (The closest they will come to us is Atlanta, but it might be worth a trip down there to see them!)

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, the three remaining stars made videos talking abt the pros with whom they were paired. When they played Sadie’s, Mark started crying and cried for a few minutes after it was done. Apparently, they have a great friendship, and she told him he is part of the Robertson family (or words to that effect). It was very sweet…

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      I did not even know who to root for since Alphonso and Sadie were so good…
      I had actually split my votes between those two. So don’t blame me anyone LOL

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Yes, they were both so good. So was Janel. We would have been happy with anyone of the three winning. Alphonso is an amazing dancer, no doubt. Sadie really does have something special when she dances though, doesn’t she? What a good season!

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Thanks for all the info on DWTS Rev. I appreciate it. I am vacuuming furiously as I gave an academy award performance on the phone this morning and a tech is on the way from Time Warner to solve all my problems. (I told the very nice tech on the phone that the last time they sent someone to my house his primary concern was seeing how fast he could get the hell out of here. I was assured that will not happen again.)

    Because I am not sure if I will be able to get anything to post again in the next 2 hours here’s a Cartoon I’m sure you’ll like.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      OHMYGOSH – great cartoon! That captures Holder perfectly!

      There’s an attorney who appears on Fox and Friends often, Bob Massey. He was HOT under the collar talking abt Holder today. He said he is supposed to represent ALL Americans, all ethnic groups, and all colors, and his behavior, especially around Ferguson, is terrible. He said he was goin gto have a bonfire at his house to celebrate the day Holder is out of office.

      ROTFLMAO abt your Oscar-worthy performance today with Time Warner! Well done! I Sure hope the tech you get is a good one, and resolves this issue for you!

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Hmm are you hinting that you might take a hint from Holder and do that to the Tech if he doesn’t fix it….(Jk)
      I hope you get it fixed so you can watch all the parades and games tomorrow.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Don’t have to even threaten the cable guy – he’s been here and gone and all is well. What’s even better, the nice fella that fixes my computers called and said it is all fixed! Lou is on his way home with it now. I am happy. 😉

  9. HELENK3 Says:

    stolen from No Quarter

  10. HELENK3 Says:

  11. HELENK3 Says:

    they have to be kidding. the backtrack bunch really does have that double speak down pat.

  12. HELENK3 Says:

    here are the sick twists that published darren wilson’s address

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      This is just infuriating. These sanctimonious twits have no business revealing his address to anyone. How dare they?

      This is not “justice,” which no doubt they are telling themselves it is to justify such a low act. It is vindictive and vicious. For heaven’s sake, Brown is not the only person to ever be killed by an officer in the line of duty. This whole thing has been ginned up to distract from the serious issues facing our nation. Sure, it I,s sad that a young man lost his,life, and sad for Wilson that he will carry this with him always. But it is not a national issue, it is not something that was done based on race but self defense.


    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Just maybe some people should send them some nice empty envelops so they can see what it feels like to live in fear.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Evidently some folks think that what’s sauce for the goose – well you know…

      Two New York Times Reporters Posted Darren Wilson’s Home Address. Look Here To See THEIR Home Addresses.

  13. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    We are driving right this minute, and are behind a car with a license plate that says, “Kenosha”! Suzy said you should check your garage, Marge! 🙂

  14. HELENK3 Says:

    after all the rain yesterday and the clouds this AM , I just watched the most beautiful sunset over the lake

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, nice, Helen! Thankfully, it stopped raining right before we left the house today, and stayed dry for the trip today ( more driving tomorrow, but only a couple more hrs). Glad you got to see a rainbow!

  15. HELENK3 Says:

    this exp0lains a lot

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That sums up the kind of mentality we are seeing in bold relief from Obama on down the line, isn’t it? It is always someone else’s fault, always. Never theirs. Ever. Good grief.

  16. kinthenorthwest Says:

    Had to share this that was posted on a forum…This Police Chief From Milwaukee says it so well.

  17. kenoshamarge Says:

    Michael Goodwin hits another one out of the park IMO

    These are no looter-day saints

    By Michael Goodwin


    These are the best take-away lines from the whole piece IMO:

    Asking troublemakers not to make trouble doesn’t cut it. Even demanding that they stop won’t make them stop.

    That’s what cops are for. They are the thin blue line between civilization and mob rule. The line collapsed in Ferguson because nobody had the courage to demand that it be held. Or maybe our so-called leaders really believe the B.S. that cops are the problem.

  18. HELENK3 Says:

    Happy Thanksgiving

  19. kenoshamarge Says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I hope you are among the stuffed full of good food, company and good feelings of gratitude for what we all have. I hope not among the running after stuff crowd.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      We are abt an hr away from Aunt June’s, having made it through a snow storm going over the mountain. Whew!

      Hope everyone is safe!

  20. HELENK3 Says:

    well how about that
    mike brown’s step daddy a member of the street gang “Bloods”

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      That whole family is really something..Mother takes 20 thugs and goes after Grandma with a lead pipe, and look who she married to.
      Then there is the sealed records on Mike Brown..If my son was the saint they say I would be putting them out there for all to see.
      The stories that they keep saying were conflicting in the GJ information, was the ones from the friends of the Brown family that did not come close to aligning with the autopsy. You know that stories that say he was shot in the back, and/or shot execution style.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Oh, awesome. And these are the people being elevated by the media. Oh, and the leaders of our country. Good grief.

        • kinthenorthwest Says:

          Mama taking a lead pipe to Grandma was last month.
          Come on the whole world was watching them.
          They don’t even have common sense.

  21. kinthenorthwest Says:

    You guys remember the experts the family brought in to do another autopsy on Mike Brown’s body…Hmmm some interesting developments on him.

  22. kinthenorthwest Says:

    Did you guys all know this–I didn’t Seems that what Brown did was done before, however the officer did Not live that time. I am really ticked off now.

    Officer David Smith never lived to tell about enraged perp who stole his service gun
    Posted by William A. Jacobson Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 3:32pm
    Sucker punched in patrol car by enraged attacker who leaned in and took his weapon, just like Michael Brown attempted on Darren Wilson.
    In that incident, a seemingly crazed and aggressive perpetrator managed to take Officer Smith’s weapon from him, and then use it to murder Officer Smith:
    Police say a suspect shot and killed a Johnson City police officer with the officer’s own weapon on Monday morning.
    Officer David Smith was an 18-year veteran of the force, police said at an afternoon news conference.
    The suspect, 43-year-old James Clark of Greene, pulled away Smith’s weapon and shot the officer three times, according to police.
    Clark fired at another officer, who then shot the suspect several times. Clark was taken to a hospital and later died.
    As recounted in this video, the circumstances were remarkably similar to the initial assault on Darren Wilson by Michael Brown: Sucker punches to an officer seated in his patrol car, with the perpetrator then leaning in to try to steal the weapon:

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