Post SOTU: Raised Ire; Maybe Blunt Would Write Obama; And “A Hand Up” *Open Thread*


Well, thank heavens THAT is over. That would be the SOTU, of course. And we only have to listen to ONE MORE from Obama. Assuming one actually listened to him, that is. As you know, I had other more important things to do. Ahem.

But there was one part of Obama’s speech that I want to mention in particular. It is no surprise to many of us that Obama wants to redistribute the wealth, take even more from the wealthy to “distribute” to others, which he tried to frame last night in an “all for one, one for all” kind of way:

[…] That’s what middle-class economics is — the idea that this country does best when everyone gets their fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules. We don’t just want everyone to share in America’s success — we want everyone to contribute to our success. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Hey, I’m all for everyone – and I mean EVERYONE – doing their fair share to make this country successful. But by the taxes Obama laid out that he wants, that is not at ALL what he means. He means some people should continue to do more, PAY more, than others, and increase the entitlements to others. How about we get off that Entitlement Train and people get back to working hard for themselves, and for the country. How about that?

And one of the taxes he has proposed that has gotten FAR too little notice is the one on College Savings Plans, the 529 programs. This one just burns me up. He goes blathering on at great length about helping out the Middle Class, the one hit hardest by his policies. And then he slips this little tax into his Big Plans. From Americans for Tax Reform laid it out (h/t Katie Pavlich at Townhall):

[…] 4. Tax Increase on Families Saving for College

Under current law, 529 plans work like Roth IRAs: you put money in, and the money grows tax-free for college. Distributions are tax-free provided they are to pay for college.

Under the Obama plan, earnings growth in a 529 plan would no longer be tax-free. Instead, earnings would face taxation upon withdrawal, even if the withdrawal is to pay for college. This was the law prior to 2001. […] (Click here to read the other disturbing areas in which Obama wants to tax us.)

Now, just WHO do you think are the people putting money INTO these 529 plans?? Forbes answers that question(via TheCollegefix):

The levy in question would increase taxes on college savings accounts known as “529 plans” (after their section in the Internal Revenue Code). By definition, these accounts are really only used by middle class families. Poorer households don’t have the extra income to save (and even if they have a little, there are much higher priorities like retirement or saving for a home). Very wealthy families might use 529 plans, but it’s far more likely that they have complex trust arrangements set up for their children.

According to the Investment Company Institute (the trade association for the mutual fund industry), there was $245 billion accumulated in 529 plans in 2014. With just south of 12 million accounts open, that means there’s an average balance of about $21,000 in these plans. This is not a mechanism for rich Democrats like the Kennedys or the Gates to shelter wealth.

… there it is buried on page 9 of the leaked document: “The President’s plan will roll back expanded tax cuts for 529 education savings plans that were enacted in 2001 for new contributions…” Note that this is right before they also announce the repeal of Coverdell Education Savings Accounts (Coverdell ESAs), another similar move against the same middle class savings targets. […] (Click here to read the rest of the Forbes piece.)

Uh, yeah, really helping out the middle class there, Obama. Just like the promise of “free” community College educations. Guess what – THERE ARE NO FREE PROGRAMS. Every “free” thing comes with a cost, and WE are the ones paying for those costs. So if Community Colleges are free for two years, that means that people who are already paying for their children’s education will be paying for someone ELSE’S educations, as well. Heck, ALL of us will be paying for their educations. I am sorry, but beyond paying for public school educations, people should be responsible for paying for their OWN educations.

And along the lines of this whole “wealth redistribution” thing Obama seems so keen on, I wish the singer James Blunt would write him a letter on our behalf similar to one he wrote an MP in England (h/t Daily Caller). From the Guardian:

Dear Chris Bryant MP,

You classist gimp. I happened to go to a boarding school. No one helped me at boarding school to get into the music business. I bought my first guitar with money I saved from holiday jobs (sandwich packing!). I was taught the only four chords I know by a friend. No one at school had ANY knowledge or contacts in the music business, and I was expected to become a soldier or a lawyer or perhaps a stockbroker. So alien was it, that people laughed at the idea of me going into the music business, and certainly no one was of any use.


And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

I got signed in America, where they don’t give a stuff about, or even understand what you mean by me and “my ilk”, you prejudiced wazzock, and I worked my arse off. What you teach is the politics of jealousy. Rather than celebrating success and figuring out how we can all exploit it further as the Americans do, you instead talk about how we can hobble that success and “level the playing field”. Perhaps what you’ve failed to realise is that the only head-start my school gave me in the music business, where the VAST majority of people are NOT from boarding school, is to tell me that I should aim high. Perhaps it protected me from your kind of narrow-minded, self-defeating, lead-us-to-a-dead-end, remove-the-‘G’-from-‘GB’ thinking, which is to look at others’ success and say, “it’s not fair.”
[…] (Click here to read the rest.)

AMEN to that. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Which leads me to the need for “a hand up.” I will leave it to Senator Tim Scott to finish out this post with his response to the SOTU:

“A hand up, not a hand out” as Sen. Scott said, is how we should be moving forward. THAT is what the United States of America has always been about, don’t you think?

Let’s hear it! This is an Open Thread.


43 Responses to “Post SOTU: Raised Ire; Maybe Blunt Would Write Obama; And “A Hand Up” *Open Thread*”

  1. HELENK3 Says:

    Rep Curt Clawson response to stfu

  2. HELENK3 Says:

    glad to see this.
    Sgt Tahmooressi at speech.
    the comments to the article are messed up must be for another article

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I saw that he was there on the news earlier. I kept missing with WHOM he was there, though, so thanks for this!

  3. HELENK3 Says:

    valjar is asked Why no mention of radical islam

    susan rice must have the flu. valjar out on msm to cover for backtrack

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Amazing, wasn’t it? Yeah, I guess all the underlings just weren’t up to lying today, so they sent out the REAL pro…

  4. foxyladi14 Says:

    Happy that I missed the mess. 😛

  5. HELENK3 Says:

    viewer approval plummets during backtrack stfu

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Btw, Helen, it was GREAT seeing the Liftoff on tv this morning of what you saw last night! So cool!!

    • HELENK3 Says:

      I saw this orange light in the sky. A police officer told me what to look for . He looked on his computer and told me it had not gone off yet. I talked to him after the scheduled life off time. It was neat to see. I do not live close enough to see the liftoff from the ground but I did see the rocket when it was in the sky

  7. foxyladi14 Says:

    He promises to veto, so
    Congress needs to get busy and send him only veto proof bills. 😆

  8. foxyladi14 Says:

    People not buying the Bull no more. 😆

  9. foxyladi14 Says:

    Now this is Audacity when he was speaking to a room full of Republicans. :facepalm:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yeah, when s one of the talking heads said, there were EIGHTY MORE REPUBLICANS in that chamber than the first time he gave his SOTU Address. Chris Wallace said he was pretty sure that was a quip “Obama had in his pocket,” or words to that effect, expecting some kind of response.

      What a cocky, arrogant, petulant child he is…

  10. HELENK3 Says:

    White House press secretary calls invite for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu to visit to Congress a breach of protocol because Israel never contacted President Obama 1st – @peterbakernyt

    backtrack having a hissy fit.

    I think Congress is an equal branch of our government and has the right to invite whomever they damn well please

  11. HELENK3 Says:

    Secretary of State Kerry says US has a ‘bare minimum’ of diplomatic
    presence in Yemen and is watching the situation ‘extremely closely’;
    Kerry says he’s heading to White House for a meeting on Yemen – @margbrennan

    Photo: President Obama lands in Boise, Idaho, to begin 2-day post-State of the Union tour – @dsupervilleap
    see original on

    so just who is kerry going to meet??? backtrack took a hike

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Turns out the woman Obama showcased in the SOTU address as proof of the improving economy, who sat by Michelle, is a former DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGN staffer. From a Facebook friend:

  13. HELENK3 Says:

    lowest rating in 15 years for stfu

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      But, but, but – how could that be?! Everyone wants to hear The One, don’t they?! Ahaha, sorry – could barely get that one out…

  14. HELENK3 Says:

  15. HELENK3 Says:

    some GOP comments on the stfu

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I just finished reading Gowdy’s comments at his Facebook page. I love how he minces no words. We need so many more like him…

  16. HELENK3 Says:

    I don’t think they like him anymore

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      ROTFL – that is too funny. I imagine he just assumed they were Republicans and don’t count anyway, but still – funny!

  17. HELENK3 Says:

    EU and Jewish fear

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      And who can blame them? Not me. I might be inclined to move back to Israel myself if I was in a similar position. Sad, though, that the Powers-That-Be allowed it to get to this point…

  18. HELENK3 Says:

    got to love Charlie Daniels

  19. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I am so happy Sen. Scott had this linked at his Facebook page. I get this magazine and loved the story he told in it. I hope you do, too:

  20. HELENK3 Says:

    this is a good thing

  21. HELENK3 Says:

    MSNBC must really be trying to get out of the ratings hole it dug itself into. pulling their heads out of backtrack’s ass finally?

  22. HELENK3 Says:

    you have to be kidding.
    IRS hires same company that screwed up healthcare website to do obama care tax

    Failure is rewarded in the government

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Can you BELIEVE that??? I could not believe my years when I heard that crap. Just ridiculous how they WASTE our money.

  23. HELENK3 Says:

    this could get very interesting.NY biggest dem power broker will be arrested today.

    Am I just hoping or is there the beginning of a sea change in the country now?

  24. HELENK3 Says:

    new Saudi border security policy.

    then you have backtrack’s idea of border security

  25. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Helen, seems Charles Krauthammer concurs with you that the House can invite whomever they please:

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