If This Is An Indication Of How Veterans Are Treated… *Open Thread*

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Recently, the new head of Veterans Affairs appeared before Congress. Secretary Robert McDonald was being queried by the House oversight committee regarding some of the issues the VA has been facing of late.

Well, Secretary MacDonald didn’t take one Representative’s questions very well, and made what I can only describe as assholic comment to Rep. Coffman of Colorado. Here is the exchange:

Now, Rep. Coffman was not mincing any words with Sec. McDonald, and highlighted a particularly problematic issue (VA hospital construction in Coffman’s district) that MacDonald had touted as a SUCCESS.

But it was THIS comment from Secretary McDonald that has raised the ire of many when he said to Rep. Coffman: “I’ve run a large company, sir. What have you done?”

Oh, boy. Well, besides being a US Representative, Rep. Coffman served in the Marine Corps for 22 years, as well as saw combat action in Iraq – for BOTH Iraqi wars. That’s what Coffman has done.

Wow. If this is the man tasked with straightening out the Veterans Affairs department, and he speaks so condescendingly to a combat veteran, it doesn’t say a whole lot for him, if you ask me. Now, McDonald is also a vet, so he should know better (as BizPacReview notes, McDonald went to West Point and was a Captain in the Army). What a piece of work he is.

Veterans groups are not happy with McDonald and has assholic comment, nor should they be. Neither was Representative Coffman. From BizPAcReview:

[…] Coffman didn’t respond to the insulting question at the hearing, but his spokesman, Tyler Sandberg, issued a statement afterward:

“The secretary may think that making personal attacks against Rep. Coffman makes for good sound bites on TV but it’s a diversion from what should be his core task: changing the culture within the VA,” Sandberg said.

Concerned Veterans for America wants more than that.

Pete Hegseth, the CEO of the group said McDonald was “disrespectful” of Coffman and demanded an apology from McDonald, according to the Blaze.

“While it isn’t exactly rare to see a cabinet-level officer face tough questions while testifying before Congress, the disrespectful, combative and accusatory tone Secretary McDonald took with Rep. Coffman today was out of line, inexcusable and in my view requires a formal apology,” Hegseth said in a statement. (Click here to read the full article.)

Appalling. Truly appalling that a man at his level would make such a disparaging comment to Rep. Coffman. I don’t care WHAT company he ran – if this is how he handles well-deserved criticism, it makes me wonder how in the hell he can make real changes at the VA.

But he isn’t the only one who was assholic to a veteran this week. A writer for HuffPo, Andrew Reinbach, who, from what I can tell, has never put on a uniform in service to our nation, went after Sen. Joni Ernst and her service. Here is Reinbach’s bio from HuffPo:

Andrew Reinbach has been toiling in the vineyards of journalism for 35 years, mostly writing about real estate, banking, finance generally, and, more recently, the intersection of politics and money. He’s published in Barron’s, Newsday, and The New York Post. His claim to fame: He was the first reporter to nail Donald Trump. He’s currently working on Sailing Orders, a book about the Naval War of 1812.

So, yeah – this guy has taken on Sen. Ernst for how she states her military service:

[…] Senator Ernst calls herself a combat veteran at every turn — on her Senate web page, in campaign debates, and in her stump speeches. She can say this because she served in a combat zone.

And it’s technically true. She was company commander of the Iowa National Guard’s 1168th Transportation Company during its tour of active duty in Kuwait and southern Iraq, from February 2003 to April 2004. But the unit was never in a firefight, or for that matter attacked at all; it delivered supplies, and later, guarded the front gate and ran perimeter patrol at their home base outside Kuwait City, Camp Arifjan.

Real combat veterans I spoke to don’t think much of how the Senator talks up her combat duty. Larry Hanft, for instance, who earned the Combat Infantryman’s Badge fighting in Vietnam, says, “By her definition, everybody who stepped off the plan in Kuwait is a combat veteran. Joni Ernst is using her military experience to gain a political edge and pull the wool over the eyes of the American people. She’s a fraud…” Mr. Hanft is one of Sen. Ernst’s constituents.

“real combat veterans”?? By Reinbach’s own admission, Sen. Ernst, who is still active in the Iowa National Guard, was involved in dangerous duty:

[…] This isn’t to say Sen. Ernst’s soldiers spent the Iraq War lounging by a pool. According to the official history of the unit’s deployment — written by the Senator — the 183 soldiers of the 1168th worked hard. Between May and August 2003, they drove 230,278 miles on 402 missions around Kuwait and southern Iraq, hauling everything from Patriot missiles and body armor to mattresses. Then the unit was re-assigned to Force Protection — security — at their home base, manning the front gate and patrolling the camp’s perimeter.

Convoy duty in Iraq was dangerous work. Armies can’t fight without supplies, convoys deliver them, and convoys were prime targets of both Iraqi infantry and, later, roadside bombs. In fact on its way back from its first mission, the 1168th was forced to a crawl in one town: Iraqi men threw themselves in front of the trucks, and stayed there until they were almost run over (the trucks only slowed). Sen. Ernst’s soldiers would have been sitting ducks if they’d taken fire.

But they didn’t, and that’s the point. In the 1168th’s 14 months in theater, the unit was never under fire, or hit by a roadside bomb. The deployment’s only injury occurred on its last day in Kuwait, when a sergeant dislocated his shoulder. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

By his “logic” then, MOST people who have deployed to the theater cannot claim “combat” experience. What a complete and utter numbskull. Sorry, I generally try not to call people names, but this is just a ludicrous attempt by some liberal jackalope to demean and belittle the COMBAT experience of a US Senator who chose to put on the uniform of this country and serve in a VERY dangerous area. I didn’t see anything in his bio demonstrating that HE put himself in harm’s way yet he sanctimoniously opines that Ernst is somehow making a claim she doesn’t deserve because she didn’t actually get shot at while in Iraq.

Wow. What a small, small man he is. This desire to demean and belittle her service speaks volumes about him, too, just like McDonald. And it says nothing good, in my opinion. How about yours?

This is an Open Thread.

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23 Responses to “If This Is An Indication Of How Veterans Are Treated… *Open Thread*”

  1. kinthenorthwest Says:

    Dang Amy I might have something in the scum bag and I think it is because I used your kewl word . IF not I will come back later

  2. kinthenorthwest Says:

    I had commented you on your good article and my new word I have because of you..A $$ holic.(Don’t think that it like us repliers using that word. )
    When someone uses their resume as an answer to a question, along with trying to slam the questioner’s resume you know that something is up. Most people who use this tactic are either lying, hiding something, or have no knowledge the subject matter.
    I believe that MacDonald is probably doing all 3, along with covering Obama and somebody/s in Obama’s administration.
    You know its getting to where its not the scandals per say, but all this hiding crap, lying crap and I don’t know crap that really galls me the most.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOL – crazy WordPress. Seriously, I still haven’t gotten any notification of a comment awaiting moderation or anything. Maybe it just left it out in the ether!

      Anyway – glad you like the word – one of my former parishioners taught it to me. 🙂

      Good point abt McDonald and his move to protect Obama. That seems to be the MO for the people who serve Obama. They will do whatever is necessary to cover Obama’s back, and they don’t seem to care who they step on to protect him.

  3. HELENK3 Says:

    http://www.conservativehq.com/node/19688

    300 US Marines cut off in Ramadi, so yes Hilary Benghazi matters

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, crap. That is so not good. And yeah – it definitely does matter…

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Crapola–You know I would really love to be wrong about Obama and the Dems and see our country get better..
      News like this is becoming way too much of a daily event now a days and it seems that Obama Don’t give a Crap—Nor the vast majority of Democratic politicians.
      Getting way too scary out there for me.

  4. foxyladi14 Says:

    Sadly Kin, you an see a lot of Republicans in that mess also. 😡

  5. foxyladi14 Says:

    Remember that saying about politicians,
    First they are Green, Then Yellow and last Rotten just like Bananas. 😯

  6. kinthenorthwest Says:

    Talk about Crazy politics…This guy just got re-elected even with all this controversies during the election.Snipet from the article.

    Embattled Oregon Gov. Kitzhaber announces resignation
    Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber announced Friday he would resign amid a mounting ethics scandal involving him and his fiancée — even as he remained defiant, lashing out at the media and former allies.

    “I am announcing today that I will resign as governor of the state of Oregon,” Kitzhaber said in a written statement.

    The resignation, which will go into effect Wednesday, marks the end of one of the longest political careers in Oregon’s history. Last month, Kitzhaber was sworn in to serve an unprecedented fourth term as the state’s governor.

    But the rapidly accelerating political pressure to resign, coupled with various investigations and intense media scrutiny, proved too much to withstand. The governor took a few parting shots at his critics in his statement on Friday, calling it “deeply troubling to me to realize that we have come to a place in the history of this great state of ours where a person can be charged, tried, convicted and sentenced by the media with no due process and no independent verification of the allegations involved.”

    He added: “But even more troubling — and on a very personal level as someone who has given 35 years of public service to Oregon — is that so many of my former allies in common cause have been willing to simply accept this judgment at its face value. It is something that is hard for me to comprehend — something we might expect in Washington, D.C. but surely not in Oregon.” http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/13/embattled-governor-resigns/

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is crazy that he was re-elected, isn’t it? And while he seems to have done some pretty whackadoodle things, I have to agree with him regarding the media: “deeply troubling to me to realize that we have come to a place in the history of this great state of ours where a person can be charged, tried, convicted and sentenced by the media with no due process and no independent verification of the allegations involved.”

      Yep, he does have a point. That said, if he was certain everything was on the up and up, he could have stayed and fought for it. That could be easier said than done, I realize.

      Anyway – HOLY smokes abt this whole thing, huh?

  7. mcnorman Says:

    I work with vets in the healthcare system. I want to tell you that the bad apples are not at the bottom of the work force. They are in dictatorial administrative positions. There is one guy that I know of that goes to his office and closes the door. Now, if there is a shortage of staff in his area, you would think the louse would fill in…not a chance in Hades. They are vermin. They are the reason that it takes so long for the bottom layer to do anything. Ex: hiring new people to replace those that have left, hah it takes almost 6 months to hire anyone and then comes the training. The upper layer doesn’t have a clue as to what goes on. They are administration. Geez, I thought the ineptness was only in education. It’s everywhere.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Wow, mcnorman – that is appalling. It must frustrate you no end! From the incompetence at the top to the burden on those who work with short staff to the impact it has on the very people who are supposed to be served. Just astonishing.

      Hey, if you have written abt this or want to, I would love to post something by someone who is dealing directly in this field. 🙂

  8. HELENK3 Says:

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/nsa-braced-for-new-leaks/

    NSA braced for a new leak

  9. HELENK3 Says:

    http://theantimedia.org/six-news-outlets-following/

    I have never been to these sites. Make up your own minds if they are good, bad or indifferent

  10. HELENK3 Says:

    gotta love Ted Cruz

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/02/13/ted-cruz-trolls-obamas-planned-internet-takeover-in-the-most-brilliant-way-possible/

  11. foxyladi14 Says:

    Amy and all of my dear friends that post here…<3

  12. HELENK3 Says:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/02/frozen-green-weenie-of-the-week.php

    this made me laugh

  13. HELENK3 Says:

    Happy Valentine’s Day

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10390419_10152683512752945_4528151022964313618_n.jpg?oh=70d243be6dd863c56cecd7f6e673e435&oe=554A0CEE&__gda__=1435554449_88ee840ff4700b33f9b0dc44546f2d68
    Reply

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