Obama Needs To Stop Preaching To Religious Groups On What They Should Focus And Go Back To Golfing (Or Whatever – Running The Country, Maybe?) *Open Thread*


Oh, boy. Seems President Obama is channeling former Sec. Hillary Clinton on what religious people ought to think and on what they should focus their actions.

You remember that, right? When Hillary Clinton made a claim about changing religious beliefs in terms of religion? Jus in case, this is what she said from the Daily Caller:

…She told attendees at the sixth annual Women in The World Summit that “deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed” for the sake of giving women access to “reproductive health care and safe childbirth.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Apparently that whole freedom of religion and thought thing just needs to go by the wayside when it comes to abortion. People who object on religious grounds just need to evolve, I reckon, and see the folly of their ways.


How is it that the same party which ridicules, demonizes, belittles, and demeans over what they insist is “settled science” (no science is settled) refuse to believe the science about what fetuses feel in the womb? Hillary Clinton, who wants you to change your religious beliefs on this, lambasted the passage of the 20 week abortion ban, though it has a provision for the health of the mother. Yet, studies are showing that unborn babies feel pain at 5 months. Why doesn’t THAT science matter, I have to ask?

But I digress. Now President Obama is getting in on the act, telling Christians and other religious people, on what they REALLY should be focusing rather than the silly (my word) issues on which they are spending time. From Breitbart:

[…] During a panel discussion on poverty at Georgetown University, Obama specifically referred to his own Christian faith, pointing out that he recognized the importance speaking out about the issue as president.

“I think it would be powerful for our faith-based organizations to speak out on this in a more forceful fashion,” he said, admitting that his wish might sound “self-interested” because he had disagreements with Christian and Catholic organizations about gay marriage and abortion.

“There is great caring and great concern, but when it comes to what are you really going to the mat for, what’s the defining issue … this is often times viewed as a ‘nice to have’ relative to an issue like abortion,” Obama said.

He argued that churches should spend more time pursuing “powerful” ideas such as helping those in poverty in order to attract more followers.

“Nobody has shown that better than Pope Francis, who I think has been transformative just through the sincerity and insistence that this is vital to who we are, this is vital to following what Jesus Christ our Savior talked about.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Um, what the hell is Obama talking about, I have to ask? Christians, which includes CATHOLICS by the way, President Obama, have LONG done work for the poor, and continue to do so. Never mind that this country has shelled out over $22 TRILLION – yes, that is $22 TRILLION dollars – on poverty programs over the past 50 years. That is to say, it isn’t for a lack of money that poverty still persists in this country, and the world. We are spending the money, and not just on the Federal level.

Which brings me to this. For Obama to call out Christian and religious groups, telling them what SHOULD be their focus is just wrong from the get-go. He is not a Theologian or a Minister, after all. Obama is just so wrong on this it is not funny. Apparently, he has NO idea how much religious organizations in this country spend on trying to alleviate the sting of poverty here and around the globe. It is just such an ignorant statement to make, never mind the arrogance, sanctimonious self-righteousness in how he scolded Christians for wasting their time on things like abortion. That is NOT his call.

Since the President is so misinformed, allow me to educate him. Below are the top 25 charities in this country according to Forbes in 2014 (they list 50, but just in terms of space, I am going with the Top 25). Count the number of Christian ones, and don’t be deceived by ones that do not mention that they are Christian in their names, like “Food For The Poor,” or Compassion International. Look at how much these organizations spend on their programs. Food for The Poor spends $991 MILLION a year (at least they did in 2014). That is a BOATLOAD of money, and indicates tremendous concern for the plight of others, just like Christians (and others) are taught to do.

Let’s take a look then at the top 25 Charities in this country. From Forbes:

ank Name Private Support ($mil) Total Revenue ($mil) Fundraising Efficiency (%) Charitable Commitment (%) Donor Dependency (%)

United Way

3,870 4,266 91 86 100

Salvation Army

2,080 4,316 90 82 56

Feeding America

1,855 1,894 99 98 100

Task Force for Global Health

1,575 1,609 100 100 100

American National Red Cross

1,079 3,504 82 90 86

Food for the Poor

1,023 1,030 97 96 100

Goodwill Industries International

975 5,178 97 88 67

YMCA of the USA

939 6,612 87 85 50

American Cancer Society

871 935 77 73 100

St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital

869 1,287 83 74 59

World Vision

795 981 86 83 99

Boys & Girls Clubs of America

766 1,686 88 80 78

Catholic Charities USA

715 4,337 89 85 98

Compassion International

657 660 90 84 98

AmeriCares Foundation

620 622 99 98 106

Habitat for Humanity International

606 1,665 81 84 88

United States Fund for UNICEF

587 593 94 91 98

Catholic Medical Mission Board

513 527 99 98 91

Campus Crusade for Christ

504 544 92 84 94

American Heart Association

502 663 85 78 86

Nature Conservancy

500 881 82 72 74

Save the Children Federation

455 658 94 91 99

Direct Relief

450 450 100 99 121

Feed the Children

442 454 93 89 91

Samaritan’s Purse

426 461 92 87 86

[…] (Click here to read the rest of the list.)

I counted eleven out of this list, but I could have missed one or two. How about you?

The point is that CLEARLY there are major charities that are doing the Lord’s Work on helping the poor, from houses from Habitat for Humanity to housing donated goods for reasonable prices, providing job training and providing aid following natural events like the Salvation Army, there are PLENTY of organizations to which people give generously of their funds and goods to assist those who are less fortunate.

So a little advice for President Obama: as any good minister knows, always check one’s facts and available sources before issuing a charge to people. Better yet, leave the preaching to those who are qualified to preach. Riding around in a golf cart on Sundays does not make you so qualified. In my humble opinion, that is.

As a reminder, the National Memorial Peace Officers Memorial Day service is today at 11:00, and the Wreath-laying ceremony is at 2:30 pm. There will be 273 names engraved, with 114 officers killed in 2014. That is too many…

What are your thoughts on this or the other goings on today? This is an Open Thread.


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20 Responses to “Obama Needs To Stop Preaching To Religious Groups On What They Should Focus And Go Back To Golfing (Or Whatever – Running The Country, Maybe?) *Open Thread*”

  1. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Just to clarify from a comment yesterday, it turns out that Georgie Boy gave more like $75,000 to the Clinton Fdn, not $50,000. Even Politico has something to say about what this does to his credibility: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-great-stephanopoulos-mess-117971.html

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Howie Kurtz also took my phony-baloney Stephanopoulos to task for his sins too.

      I don’t often agree with Kurtz and I just don’t “like” him. But he- has Sheryl Attkisson on his show quite often which redeems him somewhat in my eyes. In this case he nails the despicable hypocrite George Stephanopoulos beautifully!

      Why Stephanopoulos tarnished his credibility by hiding his Clinton Foundation donations

      For 18 years, George Stephanopoulos has tried to leave behind his political past as a Clinton Democrat and establish himself as an unbiased journalist at ABC News.

      Now he’s cast a dark shadow over that very question.

      By donating $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation, and failing to disclose it, Stephanopoulos has committed an awful blunder. He has handled the story badly. And ABC is giving him a pass.


      This is just one more nail in the “credibility and respect” coffin of the MSM. Stephanopoulos has withdrawn as moderator of ABC’s Republican presidential debate next year. Big deal. He didn’t really thing the RNC would let him continue after this did he?

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I am not a huge fan of Kurtz’s either – I can tolerate him if I happen to catch him on and he is saying something interesting, but I don’t go out of my way to watch him. I do like that he has Attkisson on, though…

        And you are so right – this just goes to show – again – how ethically challenged these people can be. It is ASTONISHING to me that Stehanopoulos did not disclose to his employers how much money he gave to the Clinton Fdn before going after Schweitzer, and just wrong to not have told his audience.

        NO kidding abt the debate. No way in hell would the RNC allow him to moderate after all of this…

    • mcnorman Says:

      Georgie somehow believes that he has superpowers to cloak his indiscretions. He would have been wise to have be open about how he worked for Bill and the real amounts given. Oh my, that would mean that he would have to remember that he does not have supercloaking powers.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        LOL – funny, mcnorman – that is precisely what he seems to think. Don’t know if anyone else caught Geraldo on Fox and Friends this morning, but Geraldo said he was fired from ABC News for a $200 donation to a non-partisan mayoral candidate who was a friend of his. He did note that he was fighting with his bosses (shocker), but he has never given any money to candidates or pacs since.

        But George, on the other hand, failed to reveal his big donations to the Clinton Fdn while HAMMERING Schweitzer for having worked for Bush for a few month (never mind how long George worked for Clinton). Just incredible.

        Oh, and the women on Outnumbered said this was NOT “going the extra mile” to disclose his donations – he should have done it long before that. No kidding…

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    In my humble opinion anyone that sat in Reverend Wright’s church of spite and hate for 20 years needs to just STFU about religion.

    And his lying deceitful ways aren’t don’t speak well for him as a Christian either.

    I’ve always thought that the line “it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye than a rich man to get into heaven” should be expanded to: “it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye than a rich man or a politician to get into heaven”

  3. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Dangit – I was so all fired up about Obama that I forgot to mention that today is the Black Eyed Susan race at Pimlico for the Fillies: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2463271-black-eyed-susan-stakes-2015-post-positions-field-and-race-preview

    • foxyladi14 Says:

      I hope your horse wins Amy. 😉

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Thanks, Foxy – one of the horses I like is, “Ahh Chocolate” – how could one NOT, right?! 😀

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Well, Ahh Chocolate came in third, but that’s okay – I bet $5 for her to Show. BUT, I also bet on a longshot the author of the Bleacher Report article above mentioned, Keen Pauline, and she WON!!! That was $5 well spent! Ahahaha…

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Sheriff David Clarke: Obama ‘doesn’t believe a word he said’ at Officers’ Memorial


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I was wondering how the officers there were going to feel abt Obama’s speech. I assumed they wouldn’t believe a word he said, either…

      Thank you for this!

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    I’ve stopped complaining about Obama playing so much golf. I’m now convinced the country is much safer when he shuts his mouth, tucks his elbows in and swings from the hips. And besides he looks so silly riding around in his little golf cart its 1/2 the fun.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      ROTFL – that is a good point, Marge – at least it keeps him from saying anything enormously stupid or giving away the store to some other communist or terrorist nation, so there’s that…

      Great cartoon!

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Gosh, Mike Morrel sure is willing to tell the truth NOW, now that he has a book to promote.

    Anywho – he is now claiming that Hillary’s email server WAS “compromised” by foreign intelligence: http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/15/fmr-cia-head-hillarys-email-server-was-compromised-by-foreign-intel-services-audio/

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Here’s the story abt Geraldo getting fired from ABC: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/05/16/geraldo-abc-fired-me-for-200-bucks-stephanopoulos-gets-a-pass-204820

    They reported this morning on Fox and Friends that George also has a former intern who is now with the Clinton campaign, has given speeches for the Clinton Fdn, and more. And he’s claiming SCHWEITZER has a bias for working for Bush for 6 months. WOW.

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