Solo Double Standard? *Open Thread* UPDATED


Update at the end of the post.

Many of you know I am a huge sports fan, from baseball to horse racing to soccer. And soccer is the focus of this post, at least tangentially.

For soccer fans, especially fans of Women’s Soccer, this is an exciting time. The Women’s World Cup has just begun in Canada. Personally, I have attended two Women’s World Cups, once in 1999 in Washington, DC when the US Women were in the Quarterfinals and went on to take the Gold in a shoot out against China. It was that match that resulted in this iconic photo of Defender Brandi Chastain after she rocketed the tie-breaking goal into the net:

The second time was when the 2003 Women’s World Cup was moved to the USA from China after an outbreak of SARS.

So, yeah – I love soccer, and I was happy that the United States beating Australia Monday night 3 – 1. It was an exciting match, to be sure. And for those who follow soccer, you no doubt know who Hope Solo is, the goalkeeper for the USA. She is an astonishing athlete, not so great a dancer as she demonstrated on DWTS, and not such a nice person as she has also demonstrated time and time again. A few years back she talked smack about the coach of the USA National Team, and was kicked off the team. Then Solo went on a Twitter rant against the aforementioned Brandi Chastain, a World Cup Gold Medal Winner and Olympic Gold Medal winner claiming she knew nothing about the game, and times had changed in the last ten years from when Chastain played.

Well, in that regard, she is right. There is no way in hell the women on Chastain’s team, THAT US National Team, would EVER have talked like that about other players, or publicly criticized their coach, or any other behavior that came anywhere close to what Solo has said and done.

It is to the “what she has done” part that I want to turn my focus. Solo has not just been in the news for what a great keeper she is, unfortunately.

Which leads me to the incident with Solo last year in which she was charged with domestic violence in regards to her half-sister, and her nephew. On the eve of the Women’s World Cup, Solo’s half-sister spoke out about that night, but more, the police reports from that night were released. From People:

Hope Solo had to be wrestled to the ground by police after she was arrested on domestic violence charges last year, according to recently revealed police reports.

When the soccer superstar was booked for allegedly assaulting her half sister and her nephew in their Kirkland, Washington, home, on June 21, 2014, she became combative and began insulting officers, according to the police records obtained by ESPN. “You’re such a b—-. You’re scared of me because you know that if the handcuffs were off, I’d kick your ass,” she allegedly yelled at one officer.

She also suggested that two officers were having sex and called another a “14-year-old boy,” ESPN reports. When one officer asked her to take off her necklace, she told him it was worth more than he made in a year.

All of this allegedly took place after Solo’s nephew, who was 17 at the time, called 911 and said that his aunt was “going crazy and hitting people,” according to the police report. Officers arrived to the home of Solo’s half sister, Teresa Obert, to find Obert and her son battered and bruised.

Solo’s nephew was crying and he had a bleeding cut on his left ear, according to the report. His nose, jawbone and arms were red, and his arms had scratch marks on them. […]

Now, I should say that the charges against Solo were dropped, but the Prosecution is appealing that decision. I can’t remember the last time I learned that the Prosecution made an appeal regarding charges being dropped, and when you read what the half-sister has to say, you can see why the Prosecution would do just that.

But here’s the thing: Hope Solo plays on the US National Team, and as such, is a representative for our COUNTRY. Yes, she is a phenomenal goal keeper, but we have seen instances this past year of players in the NFL being suspended from their teams, fined, and held to account. That has not happened with Solo, and as noted she plays for US, for the USA, not a franchise.

And that is why I find her coach’s comments to be a bit hypocritical. From USA Today:

[…] While the latest controversy addresses alleged behavior from nearly a year ago, it will only enhance the perception that Solo may be a disruptive influence on the squad, despite being one of the most accomplished goalkeepers in world soccer.

Head coach Jill Ellis denied that was the case.

“No, Hope’s been fantastic,” Ellis said at a news conference Sunday evening. “(The incident) was a long time ago. We’ve moved on. She’s been a fantastic player and teammate. None of that has even resonated with us, and I’m sure some of the players aren’t even aware of it.”

Ellis said she had not read the ESPN story or watched the video report and was informed of the news by her press officer. […]

Wow, talk about hiding one’s head in the sand, especially considering Solo’s starting position.

I might add, where have we heard language like THAT before, that it “was a long time ago”? Oh, yeah, from Obama toadie-turned-Clinton-adviser, Tommy Vietor, on Benghazi. How could something like this NOT resonate with the team?? They represent this country, and as such SHOULD be above reproach. What Solo does off the field should impact her being allowed ON the field as much as it does for other professional athletes these days.

Frankly, I am with Brandi Chastain:

[…] “Hope is incredibly lucky to be on this World Cup team,” former national team star Brandi Chastain, who scored the winning penalty kick in the 1999 World Cup final, told USA TODAY Sports recently. “I hope she recognizes how incredibly lucky she is.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Yes, Solo is lucky – lucky that she is not being held to the same standards as other athletes are these days when it comes to their behavior off the field. And it taints the US Women’s team, in my opinion,t hat she IS playing int he World Cup.

So, yeah- it seems like a bit of a double standard to me. How about you?

This is an Open Thread.

UPDATE: Nancy Armour had a great column about this very situation at USA Today. This is where she lays the blame:

Success always comes with a price, and the latest firestorm surrounding Hope Solo makes it abundantly clear the Americans have paid far too much for theirs.

In choosing to stand by Solo and all of her baggage — we’re talking steamer trunks, not carry-ons — U.S. Soccer and the women’s team sacrificed their integrity for victory and the spoils that come with it.

Yes, Solo is far and away the best goalkeeper in the world, maybe the best ever to play the women’s game. With her in the net, the U.S. won the last two Olympic titles and reached its first World Cup final in 12 years. It’s a heavy favorite again in this year’s tournament.

Yet she also has a toxic and divisive history with her own teammates, and her irresponsible and shameful behavior has tarnished both her team and her sport.

While it is Solo’s actions that have made her the center of controversy time and again, including Sunday’s damaging report by ESPN’s Outside the Lines, U.S. Soccer isn’t blameless, either. By refusing to hold Solo accountable for her transgressions — as it certainly would have a less-talented player — U.S. Soccer contributed to the very muck it found itself wading through on the eve of its most prestigious tournament. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Well said. The entire piece is very good and nails it


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47 Responses to “Solo Double Standard? *Open Thread* UPDATED”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I don’t follow Soccer but I’ve seen enough over the years of the excuses made for athletes in other sports. From grade school onto pro sports if someone can play a “game” better than anyone else they are treated like royalty. Hope Solo is just the latest iteration and proof, if we needed it, that women can be just as destructive, vicious and violent as men. There is NO possible way that this repulsive woman should be representing our country in any sport.

    But then I don’t think that Michael Vick should have ever been allowed back on a football field.

    Years ago when Vince Lombardi said the “winning was the only thing” I was appalled. I still am because as much as I disagree with coach Lombardi, he was right. It might not be right, but it is the way things are. Regrettably and shamefully for us as a people and a species.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      You said it, Marge. When they let the convicted rapist and batterer, Mike Tyson, out of prison so he could go back to making a lot of money for people, including himself as he also ended up int he movies (I refuse to see ANY movie that has him in it), to Michael Vick being reinstated with all forgiven, and others, yeah, it is clear that behavior will not prevent someone from getting a position as long as they can play.

      But again, that Hope represents the USA just irritates the bejeezus out of me. There are other good goalkeepers out there who have NONE of the “steamer trunks” of baggage that Solo does, but as Armour pointed out, US Soccer has traded integrity for wins. That is just sad.

      Great comment.

  2. foxyladi14 Says:

    Thanks for this very, Interesting post Amy. 😀

  3. HELENK3 Says:

    CSPAN-3 has the TSA hearing on now

  4. HELENK3 Says:

    this is a supreme court ruling that could have a lot of consequences

  5. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Here is another great take on the McKinney thing from eyewitnesses (h/t Facebook friend):

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Good grief, Helen – that is crazy! Thanks for the heads up!

    Here is a link on the bomb threat:

  7. HELENK3 Says:

    contrasts in delusions

    locked down airports, wide open borders

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      We had our own experience with a Border Patrol Agent in Miami – he was, simply put, a jackass. I was in a wheelchair since I can’t walk very far. A whole big family, including a dog, went through the wheelchair line in front of us. Then the agent let some folks from the Global line through, a State Dept person, and the actor Dule Hill, then when Suzy tried to accompany me, he got pissy, said he had just let through an entire family, and SHE was going to have to go to another line. It was infuriating. The young woman pushing me could not believe he did that, and said he was abusing his power. Yeah, no kidding.

      So, they give CITIZENS a hard time, but yeah, the borders are WIIIIIDDDEEEE open. Ridiculous.

  8. HELENK3 Says:

    turn on Fox

    now a bomb threat at the WH briefing room as well as another on on Capitol Hill

  9. HELENK3 Says:


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Interesting indeed, Helen. The TSA is SUCH a mess. As Charles Krauthammer pointed out on Special Report tonight, so much of what the TSA is designed to do is because of the unwillingness to profile. He has a point…

  10. HELENK3 Says:


    massive explosion in Iraq

  11. HELENK3 Says:

    here we go again. vandalism, protests for no good reason.

    can’t we round up these idiots , drop them in the middle of Iraq please. They do nothing useful, only destroy, and would fit right in there

  12. HELENK3 Says:

    things that make you go ” HMMMM”

  13. HELENK3 Says:

    White House: President Obama remained in Oval Office during briefing room evacuation; First lady Michelle Obama, Malia and Sasha were in residence, not evacuated – statement

    this makes no sense. You all know I can not stand backtrack, but he holds the office of President. Any holder of that office should have protection

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      No, that does not make any sense at all. He has a duty to stay safe, and should have been taken to safety.

  14. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Well, Mob Mentality has won again. The Police officer in the McKinney video has resigned. Another police officer has lost a job when the punks who started all of this crap play the victim and race card. That is Obama’s America for you…

  15. HELENK3 Says:

    another reason the EPA should be eliminated

  16. HELENK3 Says:

    you can not make this up

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      No, you really cannot. It just goes to show how inept Mosby is. WOW.

      Thanks for this!

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Thanks for this Helen, I hadn’t seen it. Can’t say I’m surprised though. Mosby has shown herself from the gitgo to be nothing more than a racist, incompetent, grandstanding POS.

      Didn’t you love the line in the piece:

      “We don’t know what she’s doing, but that’s okay — neither, apparently, does she.”

  17. kenoshamarge Says:

    Thought you might be interested in what the NYT’s crack investigative team is up to now:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, yes – that is EXACTLY what they are like now! How very far they have fallen…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        And can you believe that they actually go after Rubio, in their latest “hit” piece, for receiving an $800,000.00 advance for his book? After the millions the Clintons have gotten for theirs? Evidently making money is allowed only if you are a Democrat.

        Speaking of which, did you see this?

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          No kidding. How abt Obama’s book advance?? That was when he was still just a State Senator with no real record of which to speak – still boggles my mind and makes it clear someone was pulling the strings for him BIG TIME. But yeah, Rubio’s $800k is outrageous? How abt what the Times refers to as a “Luxury yacht,” a 24 ft fishing boat? They are insane (I just wrote something briefly abt that in my upcoming post).

          And yeah – that says it all…

  18. HELENK3 Says:

    republicans caving on obamatrade.

    never underestimate the power of pictures, negatives and kneepads.
    they are showing themselves to be no better than a bucket of warm spit.

    obamacare—democrats you will have to pass it to read it

    obamatrade—republicans you will have to pass it to read it

  19. HELENK3 Says:

    looks like Hillary is more dangerous on the road, even when she is not driving

  20. HELENK3 Says:

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