Ignorance Fuels Racist Statements *Open Thread*


No, I am not talking about the Confederate flag, or the discussion on the murder of Kate Steinle by an illegal immigrant who is a repeat offender in a Sanctuary City. (As you know, “sanctuary city” is a city that has declared it refuses to obey Federal Immigration Law and gets away with it. See the Victor David Hanson piece on US lawlessness KenoshaMarge supplied in a Comment). Sadly, Steinle is not the only US Citizen who has lost her life to illegal immigrants, a fact that is being discussed more and more now.

Nor am I talking about the discussion here in South Carolina about taking down the Confederate Flag, something the Legislature has now voted to do.

But this post isn’t about either one of those things, though it easily could be.No, this is about something else that happened recently following the Supreme Court decision on Same Sex Marriage. I refer to the racist statements by George Takei, the Star Trek cast member, and out gay man in his attack of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas for his opinion on the matter. Takei’s comments were indicative of the “tolerance” we have seen from the Left whether it be gay rights forcing people to lose their businesses, or being the Party of Women as their members use the “c”-word to describe a then-sitting US State Governor.

But even more, Takei’s comments were ignorant of HISTORY as Rich Lowry highlighted in his piece, “The Ignorant Freakout over Clarence Thomas.” From National Review:

[…] Justice Clarence Thomas set off a controversy in his dissent in the Supreme Court’s gay-marriage decision by reciting core American beliefs about the innate dignity and rights of all persons, whatever their circumstances or the injustices done to them. He wrote that even people held in slavery, even people interned during World War II, retained their dignity because it is impossible to erase what is woven into our very nature.

What one would think is a stirring statement about our irreducible human quality occasioned outrage among the justice’s critics. Slate considered the passage “brutal.” MSNBC found it “jaw dropping.” Salon called it “vile.” But none could top the gay actor and activist George Takei — famous as Sulu in “Star Trek” — who fumed that Thomas had forfeited his status as a black man.

Seriously. In a TV interview, Takei called Thomas “a clown in blackface.” Amid a backlash over this insult, he doubled down: “I feel Justice Thomas has abdicated and abandoned his African-American heritage by claiming slavery did not strip dignity from human beings.” Takei the would-be racial arbiter eventually apologized, although he still thinks Thomas is “deeply wrong.”

That Takei’s first instinct was to deny the blackness of Clarence Thomas tells us much about the rancid racial essentialism of the Left, which can’t get its head around minorities stepping out of ideological line.

This really is remarkable, isn’t it? The sheer contempt for any person of color who does not toe the Progressive, Leftist Party line, is demeaned, belittled, and derided for not walking in ideological lockstep. Apparently, they cannot think for themselves and must do as they are told, which isn’t the least bit racist, or patronizing. Takei’s comments really hammered that home. Oh, he did apologize for his comments, or at least for the way he said them, but I think Lowry would contend that Takei, and the other outlets who blasted him, miss the point of what Thomas wrote in a big way:

That aside, the Left’s freakout is remarkable, since what Thomas wrote represents American Founding 101. Where did Thomas get this outlandish notion of rights and dignity that exist prior to government?

Maybe Thomas Jefferson? “We do not claim these,” he wrote of our natural rights, “under the charters of kings or legislators, but under the King of kings.” Or John Adams? He wrote of rights “antecedent to all earthly government,” “that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws,” “derived from the great Legislator of the universe.”

One wonders if anyone disturbed by the Thomas dissent glanced at the Declaration of Independence over the July 4th weekend. It says, as Thomas notes, all men “are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.” In case there’s any misunderstanding, the good folks at Merriam-Webster define unalienable as “impossible to take away or give up.”

Huh. What is interesting about this point is that in Takei’s apology, he brings up the Fourth of July and its importance. Yet, as Lowry points out, Takei seems not to know what the founding document actually SAYS or the intent behind it as crafted by the Founders:

This is a truth that abolitionists wielded against the institution of slavery. The foremost of them, Frederick Douglass, held it strongly. He declared once after suffering a rank act of discrimination: “They cannot degrade Frederick Douglass. The soul that is within me no man can degrade. I am not the one that is being degraded on account of this treatment, but those who are inflicting it upon me.” (Quick — someone ask George Takei if Frederick Douglass was truly black.)

The reaction to the Thomas dissent is, in part, about the historical and philosophical illiteracy of his critics. But they also have a profoundly different worldview. The Founders believed we have innate rights that must be protected from government. As Thomas writes, “Our Constitution — like the Declaration of Independence before it — was predicated on a simple truth: One’s liberty, not to mention one’s dignity, was something to be shielded from — not provided by — the State.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Exactly. That is just it. It is a philosophical difference. But as Lowry notes, it is also historical ignorance. That Takei and the others attacked Thomas for his position, especially the racist, intolerant manner by which Takei did so is telling in a big way.

Not just did our founders, and Frederick Douglass, make these kinds of statements, but Nelson Mandela, widely held in the highest esteem by these same people, made this statement:

“For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains,

but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. “

And that is different HOW from what Justice Thomas wrote? Yeah. It isn’t. But don’t tell the Left that. They seem to enjoy flaunting their ignorance.

This is an Open Thread.


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14 Responses to “Ignorance Fuels Racist Statements *Open Thread*”

  1. foxyladi14 Says:

    Right on Amy!!! 🙂

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks, Foxy! I never thought I would be defending Clarence Thomas, but what he said abt dignity is a concept that has LONG been espoused, including political prisoners, prisoners of conscience, and more. People have long contended that while their jailers or enslavers or oppressors may have control of their bodies, they will never have control of their minds and spirits.

      How that mindset leads to Takei calling Thomas a “clown in blackface” is beyond me.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    What in the world gives George Takei the idea that he has the right to decide who is and who isn’t “black” enough to suit him? Like most of the bottom feeders on the left he seems to think that only AA who follow the liberal line are authentic. Dare to disagree? You aren’t black enough. What absolute equine excrement!

    Free Speech or actual facts being anathema to cretins like Takei he it would behoove him to keep his very large, very ignorant mouth shut about matters above his understanding. In other words, just go to Star Trek Conventions and wear a costume.

    The most disgusting part of the whole episode is that so many of his followers don’t think he had a thing to apologize about. Them being as ignorant as he it doesn’t surprise me at all.

    There may be some nice people on the left and there are certainly a whole lot of nice people in the gay community but their voices are not being heard. Just the voices of “B” list actors with empty heads and big mouths.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I agree, Marge. Certainly, there are nice liberals and many nice gay people, also many of whom do not like the Gaystapo attitude that seems so prevalent today, but those voices are often drowned out by the shrill intolerance of the more vocal among us who claim anyone and everyone is a bigot if they don’t think EXACTLY the same way they do. It is astonishing.

      And yeah – most don’t think Takei needed to apologize. His apology was nice, but he still missed the mark in understanding what Thomas was saying. As noted above, what he said was a belief, an affirmation, a stand that has been taken likely since people started interacting with one another. That is, no matter WHAT one’s circumstance, no one can take away someone’s dignity. THAT was what he was saying.

      So superficial and ignorant to not understand that concept…

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Along those lines, I just read this post by a Facebook friend, and it is fitting: As a homosexual, it pains me to share this, but truth and accountability requires us to look into the mirror and accept our roles and confess. I have long known that much of LGBTQQ “activism” coincided with Marxism. You still se it today in the dying Cuban communist regime, whereby Mariela Castro, the tyrant’s daughter, assumes the mantra of “gay activist” and is feted throughout the United States by gay groups.

        More and more homosexuals must rise up and take a stand against GAY INC and this cultural Marxism. I refuse to be a 5th columnist…

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          If gays like your Facebook friend and others like her don’t start speaking up and speaking out the honest, decent members of that community will soon find themselves on the outside looking in like the conservative AA people who dare to disagree with the liberal agenda. People like Thomas Sowell and your own Senator Tim Scott.

          When having your own opinion becomes treason to an agenda its time to get rid of the agenda. JMO for what it’s worth not being gay or black perhaps I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about. Wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong and I’m sure it won’t be the last.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            In this case, the friend is a he, and is originally from Cuba, so he knows whereof he speaks with the whole Communism thing.

            LOL – no, you are absolutely right, Marge. And a very good point too, I might add.

            It is astonishing the speed with which these very loud few are moving. And many of us do not agree with what they are doing, like making EVERYTHING abt transgendered people despite the very few people statistically speaking in this country who are affected by it. But yeah, their “Our way or the bigot highway” crap is wearing thin. I think people in the community started speaking out when the pizza owners were hammered over their response to a HYPOTHETICAL question. That showed how incredibly intolerant the “tolerant Left” was…

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Here’s that silly Hillary logo back to haunt her again.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Matthew Vadum makes some very good points. He also states “facts” which we all know is anathema to the left.

    Traitor Cities – Obama’s municipal allies take deadly aim at America’s borders.

    The “sanctuary city” movement that gave illegal aliens permission to rob, rape, and murder Americans is the product of decades of concerted collusion by radical groups like the ACLU to get cities to pledge to violate laws that protect U.S. national security.

    Cheered on by the Left, sanctuary cities frustrate immigration enforcement efforts and shield illegal aliens from federal officials as a matter of policy.

    The Obama administration is fine with that. President Obama has made America a sanctuary country, rolling out the red carpet for illegal aliens, especially those from Mexico, to come to the U.S. and depress labor markets while they suck the nation’s welfare state dry.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Say what?! Facts??? Oh, well, we ain’t go no use for FACTS! Ahem.

      Thanks so much for this. Vadum is absolutely right. While our government is busy going after Donald Trump (a Facebook friend had posted this article: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/09/federal-aviation-administration-rebukes-donald-trump/), we have thrown open wide the doors to all kinds of people.

      And yes, the labor market is a mess. More than a THIRD of Americans who want to work can’t find jobs. That is going-to-Greece territory…

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        And to go along with the Vadum post, there is this one from Daily Signal abt the impact of sanctuary cities: http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/09/how-sanctuary-policies-have-directly-led-to-thousands-of-crimes-against-americans/

        Of course, this author uses facts, too: What seems to have been overlooked in the back and forth on this is some of the very disturbing, actual data on crimes committed by illegal aliens, which should concern every American—particularly those who live in sanctuary cities like New Orleans or San Francisco that release criminal aliens rather than turning them over to the Department of Homeland Security.

        As Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Study outlines, Department of Homeland Security records show that in just one eight-month period in 2014, more than 8,100 deportable aliens were released by sanctuary jurisdictions. Three thousand of them were felons and 62 percent had a prior criminal record. Nineteen hundred were later rearrested a total of 4,300 times on 7,500 different offenses.

        Thus, these sanctuary policies directly victimized thousands of the residents of these sanctuary cities who were subjected to assaults, burglaries, sexual assaults, thefts and even murders that would not have occurred except for these sanctuary policies.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          The murder of Kate Steinle by an illegal seems to have pulled back the curtain on this issue and brought it to the public’s attention. Now watch how fast the media seeks to bury it.

          Can anyone, see why our media would want to put American citizens at risk to protect criminal illegals? And worse that that why would the government who’s job, first and foremost is to keep us safe do this?

          We all know how “dirty” politics is and how dirty politicians are willing to get to “play” the game. But this shows that their playing politics is killing American citizens. And American citizens should be outraged and enraged by this.

          Note that the finger pointing has started in San Francisco. Looks like Sherriff Mirkarimi’s head may be the first one on the chopping block. And Mayor Ed Lee is spinning so fast it’s a wonder he isn’t drilling himself into the ground.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            It should, Marge, but I just heard Illegal Immigrant Apologist Geraldo go on and on abt how the vast majority of illegals are LAW-ABIDING (except for that being here illegally part). Elizabeth tried to inform him that these “law-abiding” illegals had committed over 80,000 crimes – but hey, don’t let those facts get in the way!

            I have no doubt that this is all abt votes for Dems and Dems alone. If these folks were going to vote for Reps, you better believe the Dems would do everything in their poewr to keep them out. But no – they would rather turn over our country, break the law and violate the Constitution with impunity, just to make sure they get what they want. It is disgusting, and dare I say it, downright un-American.

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