“Hillary Must Never Be President…” *Open Thread*


No, I am not channeling what many of us, former Hillary supporters included, feel about Hillary Clinton now since our eyes are wide open. I should say, I am not JUST channeling that sentiment from many of us.

Rather, this is the claim made by Linda Tripp, former White House aide. You remember her, right? She is inextricably bound to the whole Monica Lewinsky scandal. Tripp is finally speaking out about her time in the White House, and what she has to say is a doozy. From BizPacReview:

[…] “I think the most compelling thing about Hillary is that she will stop at nothing to achieve her end and that she views the public as plebeians easily seduced into believing her point of view,” Tripp said in an exclusive interview with the Daily Mail.

“In her mind, she would be part of a coronation instead of an election,” she added.


“This has been planned for so many years,” said Tripp, a White House employee in the early 1990s held over from the Bush administration. “I remember one of the quotes in my first week in the Oval Office, which was the week after Clinton’s first inauguration.

“Everybody had this little mantra, ‘Eight years for Bill. Eight years for Hill’ … So this is a runaway train. Nobody is going to stop it.”

I totally believe that. I have no doubt that is what the mantra was. Hell, that’s what many Deocrats said, including me, I have to admit.

I didn’t know how Clinton operated then, and still, though Tripp sure did:

But Tripp, who had an office directly adjacent to Hillary’s second floor West Wing office, was just getting started in her criticism. She put the 2016 Democratic presidential contender above Bill on the villain list.

“I believe for all his faults as a flawed man, Bill Clinton is not as unscrupulous as his wife,” she said. “He is complicit, but he is not as deceitful as Hillary Clinton is.”

She called Hillary “inherently dishonorable,” and came close to calling her a criminal.

“Hillary Clinton ruled the White House even as early as 1993, and every scandal that originated in the Clinton administration was the brainchild of Hillary,” Tripp told the Daily Mail.

“When I think of Hillary Clinton I think of a lingering taint of scandal and wrongdoing and, in my opinion, possible criminal activity,” she added. […] (

Tripp’s take on Bill is interesting, isn’t it? Of course, there is that whole “bimbo eruptions” aspect:

[…] Tripp said the former president owed a lot to Hillary, who “took care of all the ‘bimbo eruptions’ — of which there were thousands — in order to present to the world an electable candidate.”

“In this endeavor she was ruthless,” Tripp said. “She destroyed women so that their stories never saw the light of day.”

Now that’s a war on women.

Regarding Lewinsky, Tripp said her affair with Bill helped make Hillary popular with the American people.

“Hillary was not only aware of Monica Lewinsky, she ensured that Monica was removed from the White House and in the end went from being a lackluster first lady with unimpressive approval numbers to wronged wife,” she said. “Literally, within the blink of an eye she propelled herself to ‘first victim’ status. This turned the corner for Hillary.” […] Click here to read the rest.)

No kidding, that is a war on women. But as have been discussing of late, Bill has gotten away with quite a lot of unseemly, possibly criminal behavior in terms of women. I guess we have Hill to thank for that.

Yet another good reason for her not to be come President.

If none of that sticks, perhaps the release of a major motion picture on what happened in Benghazi the night we lost four Americans. Maybe that will get through to some people. Here is the trailer to “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers Of Benghazi” (h/t BizPacReview). I warn you, it is intense:

I found this to be powerful, and moving, just this 2 1/2 minute clip.

Megyn Kelly and Dana Perino discussed this film on Wednesday night’s show. From BizPacReview:

[…] Fast on the heels of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s planned public testimony before the House Select Committee on Benghazi in October, a new motion picture, “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi,” is scheduled for release in January — just in time for the Democratic presidential primary season.

And progressives are already petrified, Dana Perino told Megyn Kelly Wednesday.

“The left and liberals are already so concerned about this movie that they’ve already put resources behind trying to tear it down,” “The Five” co-host said in an appearance on “The Kelly File.”

They probably should be worried. The movie is based on a 2014 book “13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened in Benghazi” by journalist Michael Zuckoff with five former CIA contractors. As a Wall Street Journal reviewer put it, “it’s hard not to read this authoritative account as an indictment of the Obama administration’s tattered narrative.

Perino told Kelly that although it’s too early to tell — especially from only a trailer — it could showcase that others view Clinton as having an overly secretive and untrustworthy nature, “and will also do anything to help herself politically.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

The WSJ reviewer could have added “Sec. Clinton,” as well since it was HER department that was directly responsible for what happened at the facility in Libya.

Sure will be interesting to see if the House Committee can get anything out of Hillary Clinton, like where the hell those emails are from the Summer Before Benghazi.

Now, I realize that all the information in the world can be out there for those who have the time and inclination to seek for them. But just like with Obama, if the Media determines to protect her, like they did Obama (and currently, Planned Parenthood), she may still get by relatively unscathed. But there does seem to be more and more coming out about her, so we can only hope people will see the light.

Now it’s your turn. This is an Open Thread.


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46 Responses to ““Hillary Must Never Be President…” *Open Thread*”

  1. helenk3 Says:


    4th planned parenthood video

  2. helenk3 Says:

    guess MTV does not like me

  3. helenk3 Says:

    for a short break

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    I agree that Hillary must never be president. The very thought of that tawdry duo back in the White House disgusts me. Lord knows it will take some serious fumigating to get the corrupt scent out after the Obama Crime Family leaves. I do include the repulsive Val-Jar in the family.

    I do however hope that Hillary is the candidate. Because I believe she can be defeated. Hell, she’s helping that along nearly every day all by herself. She would lose for the same reason she lost to Obama – she’s a rotten candidate. And if women keep speaking out about Bill Clinton’s resemblance to Bill Cosby she’s toast. (Don’t mean to suggest Bubba drugged anyone. He thought his “charm” and the power of his office was enough.)

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I just heard them talking abt a possible Biden run if Hillary continues to decline. You gotta admit – with all of his many, many, many gaffes and foibles, I think even the MSM might have to report some things abt him.

      Remember back in 2008 when he couldn’t even win the Primary in his own state? Uh, yeah.

      I doubt he will do it, though. But if he does, I admit, it makes me a bit gleeful!

  5. helenk3 Says:


    if they can not find the time to vote on this , they are useless as cat sh-t

  6. helenk3 Says:


    well backtrack is doing his best to fundamentally change America

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yes, Obama is doing everything he can to change this country. Like all 9 teachers he honored at the White House being Illegals. They couldn’t find any decent teachers in the ENTIRE COUNTY who were US CITIZENS??? Please…

      Yep – the Dems are hellbent on changing this country into something unrecognizable to those of us who believe in the Rule of Law and the US Constitution…

  7. helenk3 Says:


    can’t we please veto backtrack?

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Someone please tell me why we worked so hard to get a GOP House and a GOP Senate when they are helpless against this POS?

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I remember reading that like him or not Mitch McConnell, like him or not, was a wily old politician and would be able to outsmart the Dems. Seems the only ones he outsmarted are the ones who believed him and voted for him.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Huh – I wonder when that wily side is actually going to kick in…

          That is the question – why get them in indeed if they are going to be so spineless?

          • kenoshamarge Says:

            I think it all ready did. When he lied to the voters to get re-elected. How many times and how many lies before the good people of Kentucky rid themselves of this lying “wily” pol?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      WTH?? Only Obma would threaten to veto a bill holding the VA accountable. WOW.

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Derek Hunter and the stupidity of the American voter. Especially in California.

    How Dumb Do They Think We Are?

    Planned Parenthood, the McDonald’s of abortion, receives more than half a billion taxpayer dollars every year and is caught on videotape selling organs from aborted babies for profit. Selling human organs is illegal, just one of many crimes the videos document, and a criminal investigation has been launched…against those who recorded the videos.

    California Attorney General Kamala Harris, Democrat, announced she’ll “carefully review” the Center for Medical Progress to see if they violated any laws in their undercover sting. The investigation comes at the request of those caught on tape breaking the law; they face no such investigation or threat of criminal prosecution. It’s like John Dillinger demanding a change to bank security.

    Harris is expected to replace retiring Democratic California Senator Barbara Boxer next year because the Party cleared the field of Hispanic challengers for her and Californians, at least a majority, are unthinking liberal drones. In other words, she’s the perfect person to launch this investigation because she’s politically immune from any action she takes. The “D” after her name in California is a shield from consequences and her progressive ideology is armor against media scrutiny. Being a liberal Democrat in California is what Superman must feel like when he confronts an angry jaywalker.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      GREAT piece, Marge. I am so disgusted that they are going after the organization that exposed these barbaric practices. It makes sense that the woman doing it is their Heir Apparent in the CA US Senate.

      I am so, so sick of these identity politics.

      And I am sickened that so many people are willing to ignore, dismiss, or worse, try to justify what PPF is doing…

      • mcnorman Says:

        We never cease to amaze.

        What is it with our society? Must we look away and live in la la land until they come for us?

        PP is a prime example of how $$$ trumps life. We don’t execute prisoners the way that we terminate life in a saline abortion. What is wrong with us?

        I am sick of the politics. Our politicians are dead souls doing whatever they need to grab that power. We need help. We are drowning in a river of muck.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Well said, mcnorman – it is truly astonishing, especially since these are the same sanctimonious, holier-than-thou people who are constantly preaching abt “human rights,” yet are willingly oblivious to their hypocrisy.

          Right there with you abt being sick of this crap.

  9. mcnorman Says:

    A few weeks after Hillary Clinton was sworn in as secretary of state in early 2009, she was summoned to Geneva by her Swiss counterpart to discuss an urgent matter. The Internal Revenue Service was suing UBS AG to get the identities of Americans with secret accounts.

    If the case proceeded, Switzerland’s largest bank would face an impossible choice: Violate Swiss secrecy laws by handing over the names, or refuse and face criminal charges in U.S. federal court.

    Within months, Mrs. Clinton announced a tentative legal settlement—an unusual intervention by the top U.S. diplomat. UBS ultimately turned over information on 4,450 accounts, a fraction of the 52,000 sought by the IRS, an outcome that drew criticism from some lawmakers who wanted a more extensive crackdown.

    From that point on, UBS’s engagement with the Clinton family’s charitable organization increased. Total donations by UBS to the Clinton Foundation grew from less than $60,000 through 2008 to a cumulative total of about $600,000 by the end of 2014, according the foundation and the bank.

    The bank also joined the Clinton Foundation to launch entrepreneurship and inner-city loan programs, through which it lent $32 million. And it paid former president Bill Clinton $1.5 million to participate in a series of question-and-answer sessions with UBS Wealth Management Chief Executive Bob McCann, making UBS his biggest single corporate source of speech income disclosed since he left the White House.

    – From today’s Wall Street Journal article: UBS Deal Shows Clinton’s Complicated Ties


    If you don’t subscribe you cannot read the article, but it is quoted here.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Ya gotta give old frumpy dumpy credit, she sure knows how to fill the coffers at her family’s contingency fund aka The Clinton Crime Family Foundation. We’ve always knows she was power hungry and resented the fact the Bill got all the attention. It was until lately it become so apparent just how greedy she is. She wants to have Trump kind of money AND the White House. She wants it all.

      Thanks to her own incompetence in campaigning and her own corruption she will probably not achieve her ends. She will probably still get the Dem nomination, I hope so, but unless the Stupid Party does something stupider than usual she won’t be elected POTUS. That said, the Stupid Party is quite capable of helping her achieve her goals. Toss old Donald the bombastic in the mix and anything is possible. JMO

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Thanks for this, mcnorman – it is astonishing the levels of quid pro quo in which she engaged while SOS, and how much she got AWAY with doing. She’s been out for some time now, and all of this is just now coming up?? Uh, yeah…

        I sure hope that the “Stupid Party” gets it right this time…

  10. kenoshamarge Says:

    Here is part of an article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal. I chose the last two paragraphs because I thought they said some things about abortions and Pro-Abortion people better than anything else I’ve read. Bravo Christian Schneider!

    If doctors are willing to call the organs harvested from unborn children “brains” and “lungs” and “kidneys,” they can’t then deny that they are getting them from a “baby.” Harvesting human organs but then denying they come from a human is weapons-grade cognitive dissonance.

    To date, it appears abortion’s biggest ally seems has been Merriam-Webster. But given the videos the world has now seen, it has become impossible for abortion advocates to hide behind a dictionary.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, WOW, is that a powerful image, Marge. And yes, exactly – they cannot have it both ways. It can’t be “tissue” when it is convenient, and specific organs when they want to make money off of it…

      It is just sick, isn’t it?

  11. helenk3 Says:


    talk about a MAJOR failure of leadership

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      They know this because Planned Parenthood told them so – according to Josh Ernest the fool. How much crap are the American People willing to swallow before they’ve had enough?

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Josh was trying SO hard not to sound like a total idiot defending PP and regurgitating the new talking points abt how AWESOME they are.


        • kenoshamarge Says:

          He tried – he failed. But lucky for him he was only speaking in front of the White House news corpse – they won’t call him on it. Well Ed Henry and Jonathan Karl might but that’s easy to cure – don’t call on them. Just call on some bimbo who asks how Obama feels about Cecil the lion.

          I am, as many of you know, a fervent animal lover. I just don’t think that the Cecil the Lion issue is something to ask the president’s spokesweasel.

  12. helenk3 Says:


    this botox thing is evil inside and out

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Nancy Pelosi is as much a good Catholic as I am a good Nascar driver. Not much. And yes she’s evil and ugly inside and out.

  13. helenk3 Says:

    his was on facebook today. the timing is perfect.
    guess the dems and PP aren’t human


  14. helenk3 Says:


    pp is the deception

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good for Rep. Black! It is appalling that the Editorial staff spewed out the current Dem talking point that the REAL problem are those sneaky investigators who discovered what PPF is doing behind closed doors, not what they are actually doing.

      What the hell has happened to people in this country?!?!

  15. helenk3 Says:

    Report: Classified emails on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private server contain information from 5 intelligence agencies – @McClatchyDC
    Read more on mcclatchydc.com

  16. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Obamacare – the gift that keeps on taking, and taking, and taking: http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/30/22-of-23-taxpayer-backed-obamacare-co-ops-lost-money-in-2014-audit-find

  17. kenoshamarge Says:

    Interesting article by Matthew Dowd at ABC.

    Canary in Coal Mine: Trouble Ahead for Poll Leaders Trump and Clinton

    The two presidential candidates rated as least favorable, most untrustworthy, and least likely to care about the needs and problems of regular folks are Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and they are leading their respective party primaries.

    This is just one interesting element of a new national poll released today by Quinnipiac University. Understanding that this is only one national poll and much can change with time, I wanted to relate seven insights I gleaned from this most recent survey of voters for the general election and for the party primaries.

    1. As we have seen previously, the electorate is incredibly polarized, with Republicans and Democrats lining up nearly unanimously with their parties’ candidates for House, Senate and president. You only see 1% or 2% defection to the opposing party. As I have written recently, it is Independents who will decide next year???s election outcome, and as of today they are slightly leaning voting Republican up and down the ballot — except for Trump, who they are opposed to in the general election.
    2. Hillary Clinton???s unfavorable rating today is a net negative 11 points, and among Independents it is a net negative 18 points. She started out the campaign in March with a positive net of 3 points so she has deteriorated badly in the course of four months. Trump today has a disastrous net negative favorable rating of minus 32 points overall and among Independents.

    3. Hillary is viewed as not honest and trustworthy by an amazing 57% of the country and by 62% of Independents. The opinion of Trump is just as bad, being viewed by 58% as not trustworthy. This is a difficult platform for either to run a campaign from if they don???t fix it, and even more problematic in attempting to govern the country if they were to win.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOVE the cartoon! And isn’t it a bit odd that those two would be leading considering? I think as time goes on, and people start to learn abt the others, that will change. I am guessing it isn’t just that Trump is reflecting the anger many of us feel, but also his name recognition. Same for Hillary.

      What does it say that, with ALL her negatives, she is still the presumptive Dem nominee??

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I hope she is the Dem nominee. Because she can be defeated. I just hope Scott Walker is the one to do it.

        William Jacobson at Legal Insurrection makes a monkey out of Dana Milbank. With apologies to poo throwing monkeys.

        The Most Dangerous Man in America?

        While the ire of the media has been focused mostly on Donald Trump for the past few news cycles, Scott Walker is still getting some scorn.

        This column by Dana Milbank at The Washington Post could all but be a campaign poster for walker, with a few wording changes.


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