What A Find *Weekend Open Thread*


This is a two-fer kind of find thing, but on two wildly different topics.

The first find is of the bipartisan kind, unusual these days. And it is a political discussion for this Weekend Open Thread. But, it is a very important one, and I do not want it to get lost in the whole pre-present-post debate discussion. This is a finding of the US Senate about the shenanigans Lois Lerner and the IRS pulled. And they are not pulling any punches, either. From The Daily Signal:

The U.S. Senate Committee on Finance has released an extensive bipartisan report on the IRS targeting scandal that makes it clear, according to Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, “that the agency mistreated conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.”

In fact, “political biases and poor management went hand in hand to let politically motivated behavior continue unchecked.”

The bipartisan executive summary concludes that that from “2010 to 2013, IRS management was delinquent in its responsibility to provide effective control, guidance, and direction over the processing of applications for tax-exempt status filed by Tea Party and other political advocacy organizations.”

Lerner initiated the use of a “Be On the Lookout (BOLO) list, which improperly identified the Tea Party and other organizations by name and policy position.

“The IRS used the BOLO list to subject applications received from Tea Party groups to heightened scrutiny, even when that scrutiny was unwarranted because the applications gave no indication that the organizations would engage in political campaign intervention.”

Now, I know that many of us here already knew this. It was glaringly, blatantly obvious that Lerner and others at the IRS, with knowledge from at least some in the Obama Administration, were targeting these groups. But this is a BIPARTISAN finding. That makes it just a tad harder for the Democrats to keep dismissing this important scandal as ginned up or fake.

And you know there is more:

[…] It was Lois Lerner and other senior managers at the IRS who “made decisions that directly resulted in increased scrutiny, long delays, and requests for inappropriate information.”

In fact, Hatch found evidence that “Lerner’s personal political views directly resulted in disparate treatment for applicants affiliated with Tea Party and other conservative causes.”

This even extended to Lerner asking whether the IRS could open an audit of Candie’s Foundation, a charity concerned about teenage pregnancy, because it had hired Bristol Palin as its spokesperson.

Hatch’s review of IRS emails and other documents showed that “Lerner was a Democrat who consistently supported Democratic politicians, particularly President Obama, during her tenure at the IRS. Her communications also suggest that she felt animus toward the views of the Republican Party.”

Her bias was “particularly evident when comparing her inaction on Tea Party applications to her quick responses to inquiries from Democratic politicians.”

This bias led to “audits of some conservative organizations, which imposed even greater burdens and further stifled their political speech.”

Ya don’t say. Again, we knew this. We have watched the hearings, heard the impassioned statements by fellow citizens targeted by the most powerful agency in the country. We have learned of the impact this targeting has had, not just on conservative groups, but religious groups as well. It is staggering in its scope and implications.

This report also includes some information on Lerner’s bias and how it impacted her work:

Lerner, according to Hatch, “favored campaign finance reform efforts and had deep disdain for the Supreme Court’s loosening of these restrictions in the Citizens United decision.”

In fact, she referred to that decision as “by far the worst thing that has ever happened to this country” and feared it would lead to “the end of America.”

Thus, she and other IRS officials responded almost immediately to Obama’s criticism of Citizens United by making the “pivotal decision to set aside all incoming Tea Party applications for special processing.”

This was at the same time that Lerner met with staff at the Federal Election Commission and the Justice Department to urge them to open criminal investigations of these conservative organizations. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Uh, yeah. That was an interesting tidbit we learned not too long ago, the collusion between the IRS, the Federal Election Commission, and the DOJ. That oughta freak your freak right there. Yikes.

These findings by this Senate Committee are important. Maybe, just maybe, we will finally get some legitimate comeuppance for this unbelievably partisan IRS official, as well as those who colluded with her and broke the law regarding confidentiality. Oh, and we can hope that this latest will force Obama to fire the smug, arrogant, John Koskinen from heading of this deeply flawed agency.

Enough of the political stuff for now. I have another find about which to tell you. This really was a discovery. Here is the story from IJ Review:

[…] As CBS DFW reports, Kerry Cremean and his wife, Cindy, had just bought a new home when a search of the crawl space in the garage uncovered something that brought Kerry to tears.

In a leather bag, seemingly untouched for decades, the Cremeans found a carefully folded American flag— the relic of the military burial for a Robert Allen Murray.

The ID and other information found in the bag told Kerry Cremean that Murray may have served in the Navy at about the same time that Kerry, a retired Army Sergeant, was in Vietnam.

“This was a forgotten member of the military,” Kerry told CBS DFW. “Someone needs to remember him.”

The shared military past wasn’t all that Kerry Cremean had in common with Murray, who died in a car accident in 1980.

Murray also had three daughters at the time of his death— Joyce Delane, Elizabeth Alana, and Kerry Ann. The fact that he shares a name with Murray’s daughter was significant to Cremean.

“I felt that was more than coincidental. I felt God led me to this,” he said.

[…] (Click here to read the rest.)

The Cremeans are still looking for the family members Robert Allen Murray, a Vietnam Veteran, to return the flag and Murray’s possessions to them. For them, it is an act of love, and honor. I hope they are successful in this patriotic mission they have undertaken.

That’s it for me, friends. What is on your minds this weekend? This is an Open Thread.


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36 Responses to “What A Find *Weekend Open Thread*”

  1. insanitybytes22 Says:

    Ah, what a sweet story about that flag. I love remembering there is still some humanity in the world.

    As to Lois and the IRS scandal, besides all the other issues, what strikes me as so problematic is how unprofessional these people are. Maybe that’s an old fashioned ideal, but in the olden days like less then ten years ago, people were concerned with behaving professionally rather then personally.You kept that business relationship professional and somewhat emotionally detached. You did not target your enemies for political purposes and misuse the public trust.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      So glad you liked it, insanity! And yes, it is refreshing to see the decency and honor with which some people live their lives, going the extra mile for a stranger…

      YES – excellent observation. These people are SO unprofessional. I wonder if they weren’t so protected by a powerful union, one which gives predominantly to Dems, of course, would they be so cavalier and sloppy?

      Unions have no place in government agencies, and need to be abolished. Maybe then, we could have a return to the kind of work ethic you articulated so well.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Great story about Robert Allen Murray and his forgotten flag. Thanks for sharing.

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Poor little Donald Trump is still whining about his perception that he was bullied. How long will Mr. Tough Guy continue his “Whine Tour”? Is this the man who says he’ll take on China, Russia and force Mexico to build a wall? Hell he can’t even take on 3 FOX media types without whining.

    Trump goes to war with Fox News

    “I really enjoyed the debate tonight even though the @FoxNews trio, especially @megynkelly, was not very good or professional!,” Trump, currently leading the packed Republican field in the polls, said on Twitter early Friday morning, as part of a roughly two-hour rant against the network.

    But it was an aggressive back-and-forth with Kelly on his comments about women that caught the most attention.

    Asked about calling women “fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals,” Trump fired back, “If you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably maybe not be, based on the way you have treated me. But I wouldn’t do that.”


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It’s astonishing, isn’t it? ALL of the candidates were asked tough questions, ALL of them were. But he was asked a LEGITIMATE question abt how he treats women. He showed his true colors in his response to Megyn at the time, and has continued to say worse and worse things. Yet his supporters are frothing at the mouth in defense of him.

      You said it. If he cannot take on Chris, Bret, and Megyn, he sure as HELL cannot negotiate with major countries.

      Typical bully – when he is called on his bad behavior, he shows what a big baby he is.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    I am not a Rick Perry fan but this shows me that even a politician can have a heart. I love what he did.

    How Rick Perry returned service dog to fallen Marine’s family


  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    Michael Goodwin is a big enough man to admit he was wrong about Schumer so I can do no less. I was wrong. And I am flabbergasted, and happy, that I was.

    I was wrong about Schumer, and it feels so good

    Never has being wrong felt so good, nor has a mistake been so worth celebrating.

    Chuck Schumer surprised me in all the best ways. His opposition to the terrible Iran nuke deal is breathtakingly bold and opens the door to actually defeating it. That would be one of the best things to happen to America, Israel and the civilized world in a very long time.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Right there with you, Marge! Sometimes, it is a good thing indeed to be wrong, and this is one of those times. I hope that Schumer’s stepping up really will put the kabosh on this horrendous deal of Obama’s and Kerry’s. Thanks so much for this!

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    This just makes me sick. I hope these families sue the CRAP out of these jurisdictions, and the Federal Gov’t, for allowing these vicious illegal criminals to stay in the country: http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/08/feds-declined-to-detain-illegal-alien-charged-in-hammer-attack-and-rape-of-california-woman/

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      If the media gave one half the attention to attacks like these that they do to thugs killed while attacking police officers the public might be outraged enough to do something. As it is those who don’t follow anything except talking points and what celebrity is in bed with what other celebrity will never know. One wonders would they care anyway.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        No kidding! Our paper has two stories on Michael Brown today. TWO! For a man who assaulted a police officer, tried to disarm him, and rushed him. A criminal, a thug, is being glorified, and the police officer vilified. THAT is what the Left has brought us.

        Along with cases like the above in which the poor illegal aliens cannot possibly be held accountable for their actions! I mean, c’mon!!

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

    I know some of us are being portrayed as overly sensitive or in need of a “fainting couch” if we find Trump’s misogynistic remarks offensive. Perhaps we are. But his rude, crude remarks are the best way I know to get the feminist warriors cranked up and ready for war. They don’t even have to make things up since Trump supplies them with all the ammunition from his own busy mouth. The left has ample ammunition to re

    Trump’s history of flippant misogyny


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      You ain’t only kidding, Marge. I swear, I have been ASTONISHED to see the way friends on Facebook have been defending Trump and demonizing Kelly. As Suzy pointed out to them, KELLY (and Erickson, for that matter) is NOT running to be President – Trump is!

      We already have one petulant, think-skinned, vindictive, bullying, tantrum-throwing child in the White House. We sure as hell do not need another one.

      Kelly’s question was absolutely appropriate, and if all these whiners think Trump was not going to be asked that, or SHOULDN’T have been asked that, they are far more in the Obama Minions mindset than they are willing to admit. He is the frontrunner (though I hope this changes that), and if he cannot handle a question abt his own comments in a DEBATE, how can ANYONE expect him to interact with world leaders??

      It is just mind-boggling, Marge – just mind-boggling.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I have been waging a war over at NQ about Trump and the FOX debate moderators for 2 days now. I am bloody but unbowed.

        What I am is astonished at people that I thought had their heads on straight rushing to the Donald’s defense and attacking Megyn Kelly. Calling her “Tabloid Barbie” for one thing. Some seem to think this will sink FOX. Are you kidding me? They had the best ratings for a cable channel ever!

        My beef with the debate was that they didn’t give all the candidates an equal chance. Scott Walker didn’t get many questions and poor Ted Cruz was ignored most of the time. That’s just not right and I am disappointed in FOX but more with Megyn and Brett. I thought they bother were better than that.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I spent a good bit of (wasted time) on this at a group on Facebook, too. It really is amazing to me to see so many women in particular turn on Kelly for asking a wholly appropriate question. As Suzy mentioned, had that been Candy Crowley, she would have cited every date, abt whom he was speaking specifically, and on and on and on she would have gone.

          One guy I respected said Kelly needed to stop trading on her looks at Fox. HUH??? I suggested to him that he must never have seen her show, that she pulls no punches with her guests, is smart, and tough as nails. Maybe he, adn the other women, WANTED her to be nothing more than the bimbo Trump called her, but bimbo she is not.

          From what I understand Rubio got around 8 minutes of time, Paul got the least, and everyone else was around 6 minutes or so. It was frustrating that people like Cruz did not get the opportunity to follow up like some of the others did. But when he did speak, he owned the room, I thought, unlike Christie and Paul who just looked like churlish children. Again, we have one of those in the WH, and don’t need another one.

          It just amazes me that Trump is getting all of this support for his despicable comments, INCLUDING to Kelly. That he and some of his top campaign people have now parted company as a result should say SOMETHING to those defending him: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/08/09/trump-megyn-kelly-feud-ruptures-the-donalds-campaign-235103

        • foxyladi14 Says:

          Keep up the good fight Marge. 😀

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    A surprisingly good article chastising Jon Stewart in the NYT. The author couldn’t see the mote in his own eye when it came to bias but I give him credit for trying.

    Jon Stewart, Patron Saint of Liberal Smugness

    Many liberals, but not conservatives, believe there is an important asymmetry in American politics. These liberals believe that people on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum are fundamentally different. Specifically, they believe that liberals are much more open to change than conservatives, more tolerant of differences, more motivated by the public good and, maybe most of all, smarter and better informed.

    The evidence for these beliefs is not good. Liberals turn out to be just as prone to their own forms of intolerance, ignorance and bias. But the beliefs are comforting to many. They give their bearers a sense of intellectual and even moral superiority. And they affect behavior. They inform the condescension and self-righteousness with which liberals often treat conservatives. They explain why many liberals have greeted Tea Partiers and other grass-roots conservatives with outsize alarm. They explain why liberals fixate on figures such as Sarah Palin and Todd Akin, who represent the worst that many liberals are prepared to see in conservatives. These liberals often end up sounding like Jon Lovitz, on “Saturday Night Live,” impersonating Michael Dukakis in 1988, gesturing toward the Republican and saying “I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy!” This sense of superiority is hardly the only cause of our polarized public discourse, but it sure doesn’t help.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Are you SURE this came from the Times and not the Post?? Wow. Hard to believe that the Times would actually speak up abt Stewart and his smugness.

      It is astonishing that people make SUCH a huge deal of Stewart considering the small number of people who actually watched his show. Even his last one only got abt 3 million viewers. So why is he given so much credibility,e specially since he is a COMEDIAN?!?!? Sheesh,

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I know, what you mean. I started to read it and had to double check that it really came from the NYT.

  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    This makes me mad: http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Brazil-omits-Israel-from-passports-of-Jerusalem-born-citizens-411589

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Me too. It seems that anti-Semitism is rising all over the world. And America, that should be leading the charge against it seems to be a part of it. Especially the academic community. Look at some of what is going on now and then read about what happened prior to WW2.

      To me this country should never stop feeling shame for turning away the SS St Louis. http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005267

      That and interning Japanese Americans. Funny how there is still angry about the internment and so little mention of turning away 900+ Jews who nearly all died as a result. Such a little thing for us to have taken them in. And such a terrible result that we did not.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        You are absolutely right, Marge, anti-Semitism IS on the rise all around the world. Instead of us standing up FOR Israel and AGAINST those anti-Semites, we are standing with them. It is deplorable.

        Thank you so much for the information abt the SS St. Louis, too. Staggering, just staggering…

    • foxyladi14 Says:

      That is just awful, Amy. 👿

  10. kenoshamarge Says:


    EPA Dumps One Million Gallons of Wastewater Into Colorado River

    The Environmental Protection Agency, the federal agency committed to protecting “human health and the environment,” jeopardized both Wednesday by accidentally releasing one million gallons of wastewater into Colorado’s Animas River.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Are you freakin’ kidding me with this?? The agency that is doing everything in its POWER to regulate every little thing in our lives does something like this?! WOW.

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    Unlike Donald Trump who is busy fighting FOX News and Megyn Kelly, Scott Walker goes after Hillary.

    Note how he calls the other candidates “a great group of Republicans”? This is either one hell of a smart politician or a really decent man. Maybe he’s both.

    Scott Walker: Everything That Hillary Clinton Touches Is a Mess

    “Who’s best equipped to make sure that Hillary Clinton is not the next president?”

    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker hit the stage at RedState Gathering Saturday and immediately began deconstructing the presumptive Democrat nominee.

    “Every place in the world that Hillary Clinton has touched is more messed up today than when she and President Obama took office,” Walker said during a barrage that was clearly meant to keep the focus on the GOP’s eventual general election opponent.

    The key question Republicans need to answer, says Walker, is “who’s best equipped to make sure that Hillary Clinton is not the next president?”

    He called his GOP rivals “a great group of Repubicans” and said they’re not the opponent, Hillary Clinton is. Walker noted that Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers “doesn’t talk trash. He shows what he does on the field of play.” Adopting that same attitude, he said to rising applause, “I don’t just talk about it. I fight and I win and I have a record of accomplishment in a blue state and I did not compromise my principles to get it.”

    Walker described himself as “reform-minded” with a simple plan that includes reform, growth and safety.

    Being a reformer means “taking power from Washington and putting it into the hands of people.”

    For example, he said, “I don’t believe in Common Core or a nationwisde school board. Send the money and power back to the people at the local level.”

    In contrast to Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, who measure success by how many people are receiving government assistance, Walker said, “We measure successs by how many people are no longer dependent upon the government.”


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I noticed that Walker made sure to target Hillary, not his competitors while on stage the other night. That is yet another good reason to like him. He is focused on the person who most deserves Republican ire, and it aint’ Megyn Kelly. Good for your Governor for keeping his eye on what is IMPORTANT in this campaign – his Democratic competitor.

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    There really are no depths to which the Clinton team will sink. More on those emails: http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/388137-hillary-clintons-right-hand-cheryl-mills-hit-delete-button-state-dept-emails

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      The question is whether the FBI under this president will really go after Cheryl Mills. Or does Val-Jars loathing for Clinton have enough clout to see some kind of justice, as she sees it, done.

  13. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I came to this via Western Journalism, and is it an eye-opening piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html?_r=1

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Evidently Andrew Klaven is up to here with Trump too.

      The Last Trump (Post by me)

      President Rubio or Walker would accomplish in their first year ten times more good than President Trump would in the yooogest term imaginable.

      Last time I wrote about Donald Trump, I received comments that read to me like this:

      “You’re an establishment elitist, Klavan! We’re angry, you hear? So we’re going to vote for a liberal RINO who’s sure to get Hillary Clinton elected! That’ll show em! Yeah!”

      Fortunately, I managed to convince myself that such comments came from lefty trolls pretending to be conservatives because to believe for even a moment that some conservatives might actually be thinking at the level of lefty trolls pretending to be conservatives… well, that way madness lies.

      And really, I’ve said everything I have to say about Trump and, more importantly, Jonah Goldberg and Kevin D. Williamson at National Review have said everything I have to say about Trump. But I do want to add one quick addendum to my previous comments.

      Donald Trump’s candidacy is a creation of the mainstream news media in the same way that Godzilla is a creation of a reckless nuclear blast: it’s an unintended side effect of a destructive cloud. In this case, we’re talking about a news media cloud of lies, a cloud in which the president of the United States can corrupt both the IRS and the Justice Department, leave our people dead in Benghazi, effectively deal weapons to Iranian terrorists and repeatedly ignore the constitutional structures that keep us free, all without consequence… but if Marco Rubio takes a sip of water during a speech, CNN wonders if that’s a “career-ender”?


      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Excellent – thank you for this, Marge. I am just astonished at the people, formerly rational people, who are embracing Trump no matter WHAT he says. It is truly mind-boggling, and is just like the Obama sycophant mindset. Troubling indeed…

  14. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Branco does it again

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