“It’s Obama’s Fault” *Open Thread*


Why yes, yes it is. That is an acceptable response for any HOST of things, like why our health insurance costs have gone up, why we have more regulations than ever, why the debt has escalated in an unprecedented fashion, why illegal aliens feel free to waltz right into our country, and any number of other things one can mention.

But I am going to focus on just two for today in a return to the President we have and not anyone running for that position. One is ISIS. Yes, ISIS. Now, some might think it is a tad hyperbolic to blame President Obama for ISIS. Tell that to Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. He knows a thing or two about this subject (to put it mildly). Western Journalism has the story:

[…] Meanwhile, the former head of U.S. Defense Intelligence, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, made headlines again when he said during an interview with al Jazeerah that the Obama administration had willfully supported the creation of Islamic State by supporting the insurgency of Salafists, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria and Iraq.

Flynn said that his agency had delivered accurate intelligence Al Qaeda and other Islamist groups were the main driving force of the insurgency in Syria and Iraq, but the administration did not listen.

When the interviewer asked Flynn if he thought the administration turned a blind eye to the intelligence, he said that it wasn’t a “blind eye” but “a willful decision” to ignore the information.

Flynn said that Obama lacks a strategic vision and uses only tactics in the war against Islamic State. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

To hammer that point home, Lt. Gen. Flynn made his point quite clear to the (rude, interrupting) Al Jazeera interviewer:

You can’t get much clearer than that. Lt. Gen. Flynn claimed he argued about the direction the Administration was going, and Obama ignored what the intelligence was telling him. Yep, that was crystal clear.

So, yeah – we can blame Obama for that. It is HIS fault, not President Bush, or any of his underlings.

That’s mighty big, isn’t it? We are talking about the rise of ISIS.

But you know I was saying all along that it was bizarre that Obama was able to invite members of the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood to his Cairo speech, and it was insane that he supported the Muslim Brotherhood over our ally in Egypt, that he has invited Muslim Brotherhood members to the White House, and that there are so many more connections of Muslim Brotherhood members to high-ranking Democrats (talking to you, Hillary, with your close associate Huma Abedin being a “veritable Muslim Brotherhood princess“). So to me, it isn’t that far of a reach to acknowledge that Obama’s actions in the Middle East have certainly aided and abetted the rise of ISIS (or “ISIL,” as the Obama Administration likes to call them as if that makes them any less dangerous or any less terrorists. Whatever.).

It does seem that Obama enjoys propping up some dangerous people across the globe. We need not look at the Middle East to make that correlation, oh now. We need look no closer than the terrorist supporting government of Cuba, right here in our own backyard.

But once again, you need not take my word for it. Take the word of people who live there, and what has happened to them since Obama threw open the gates. From IJReview:

[…] Nearly 90 individual activists were arrested in Cuba on Sunday, just days ahead of Secretary of State John Kerry’s expected visit to the new American embassy on communist island-nation.

According to Agence France-Presse, Cuban security forces engaged and arrested 40 or so activists who were marching through Havana wearing masks depicting President Obama.

Angel Moya, a former political prisoner, as AFP notes, placed blame on the U.S. president’s normalization efforts as a partial culprit to the crackdowns on free expression:

“It’s [Obama’s] fault, what is happening… That’s why we have this mask on. Because it’s his fault.”

In addition, at least 50 protestors affiliated with “Ladies in White,” a group founded by the wives of jailed dissidents, were arrested by Cuban government forces. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

And there ya have it. This great change under Obama with Cuba (cough, cough) continues to prove how incredibly short-sighted Obama is when it comes to foreign policy.

And don’t even get me started on the whole Iran deal. Speaking of, did you hear what Secretary Kerry said in an interview with The Atlantic recently? It’s a doozy:

[…] “The ayatollah constantly believed that we are untrustworthy, that you can’t negotiate with us, that we will screw them,” Kerry said. “This”—a congressional rejection—“will be the ultimate screwing.” He went on to argue that “the United States Congress will prove the ayatollah’s suspicion, and there’s no way he’s ever coming back. He will not come back to negotiate. Out of dignity, out of a suspicion that you can’t trust America. America is not going to negotiate in good faith. It didn’t negotiate in good faith now, would be his point.”

Kerry also said that his chief Iranian interlocutor, the foreign minister, Javad Zarif, and Zarif’s boss, the (relatively) reformist president, Hassan Rouhani, would be in “serious trouble” at home if the deal falls through. Zarif, Kerry told me, explicitly promised him that Iran will engage with the United States and its Arab allies on a range of regional issues, should Congress approve the deal. “Zarif specifically said to me in the last two weeks, ‘If we get this finished, I am now empowered to work with and talk to you about regional issues.’” Kerry went on, “This is in Congress’s hands. If Congress says no, Congress will shut that down, shut off that conversation, set this back, and set in motion a series of inevitables about what would happen with respect to Iranian behavior, and, by the way, the sanctions will be over.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Um, I don’t really give a crap about the Ayatollah of Iran as much as I care about Israel, about these lunatics funneling gazzillions of dollars to terrorist organizations. That doesn’t even touch the whole nuclear weapon concern with these people. Frankly, the Secretary of State for the USA should be less concerned what the Ayatollah of Iran thinks, a nation that has killed and injured a whole BUNCH of Americans, and more concerned about what AMERICANS think of this deal.

Americans like this veteran, hurt in Iran (h/t Townhall):

Amen to that. And yeah, the Iran deal is Obama’s fault, too…

This is an Open Thread.


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18 Responses to ““It’s Obama’s Fault” *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    The Trump supporters of today remind me so much of Obama supporters from 2008 until the present day. All mouth and no substance. Obama is willing to screw the country for what he sees as “his” legacy. Which will not be what he seems to think it is. I suspect he will be hated by future generations. I say that because I see no sign of an electorate ready to vote for someone of substance. Hillary Clinton? Jeb Bush? Donald Trump?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      You ain’t only kidding, Marge. They are SO much the same, and no amt of facts or information seems to sway them.

      For instance, this morning I put up a link at this private group that Trump is the ONLY Rep. candidate to decline an invitation fro Sen. Tim Scott to come to South Carolina. Not only is an endorsement from Scott a good thing to have, but our primary is in Jan., so it is early. Here is the link: http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150810/PC1603/150819922

      And what was one Trump supporter’s response? Not that he declined it – which was the headline, but that one of his campaign people said he might do one later on in Jan. if his schedule, and Scott’s, permits.

      Well, that is still not accepting the invitation, and it is NOT committing to a time and place. That is what the article said. After her excuse, I told her that frankly, I was GLAD he was not committing and hoped he DOESN’T get Scott’s endorsement because I don’t like him anyway.

      Honestly, there are SO many good choices out there. Why in the hell they want to prop up this egotistical maniac who won’t commit to not running in a 3rd party if he doesn’t get his way with the Reps, someone who is FAR more like Obama than anyone else, with the possible exception of Hillary, is simply beyond me. The lack of reasonable, rational thought in this nation now is stunning. Just stunning.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        His supporters are still attacking Megyn Kelly. They seem to think that their outrage will bring down FOX News. I doubt it but if they do then where in hell do they expect to find ANY news that doesn’t have a total liberal bias?

        This near worship of a political candidate has always left me shaking my head.

        I still cannot for the life of me see what was so wrong in asking him about his sexist remarks. No one cared about Obama’s either and look what we got.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Oh, I know – they cannot shut UP abt it as if it isn’t a moderator’s job to ask REAL questions. Just because Obama got such slacker treatment doesn’t mean The Donald should.

          And take down Fox? That is just more delusion – they seem to buy his BS instead of the reality of just how well Fox has treated him. Wow, Marge – just wow.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Great post from the wonderful Thomas Sowell on the “debates”.

    A Debatable ‘Debate’

    The so-called “debates,” among too many Republicans to have a debate, are yet
    another painful sign of how much words and ideas have degenerated in our times.

    No one expects these televised sound bites and “gotcha” questions to be anything like the historic Lincoln-Douglas debates on the momentous national issue of slavery.

    But the mob scene of candidates on stage that began with the 2012 campaign, and is now being
    repeated, is a big step down from the modern one-on-one debates between presidential candidates that began with John F. Kennedy versus Richard Nixon in 1960.

    We still have momentous national issues. In fact, the threat of a nuclear Iran with intercontinental missiles is a threat to the survival of America and of Western civilization. The issue could not be bigger.

    But this issue did not get even half the attention as was lavished on Donald Trump. Even in the earlier “debate” among the second-tier candidates, where Trump was not present, the first question asked
    was about Donald Trump.

    Nothing could more plainly, or more painfully, show what is wrong with the priorities of the media.

    A poll taken after the “debates” showed that, of the 17 participants, the top 5 were all people who had never run a state government or a federal agency. In other words, those who came out on top in this battle of sound bites were people whose great strength was in rhetoric.

    After more than six years of Barack Obama in the White House, have we learned nothing about the dangers of choosing a President of the United States on the basis of sound bites, with no track record to check against his rhetoric?


  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Jonah Goldberg on the problems both parties face. You can be sure the media will only focus on the problems of the right.

    GOP’s Trump problem will fade, but Democrats’ Bernie Sanders troubles are just beginning


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks so much for both the Sowell and Goldberg pieces. They really hit the nail on the head, don’t they?

      Still can’t believe Sanders is garnering such large rallies. That is what our current educational system is getting us. I guess these unionized teachers and college professors really have had an impact, huh?

  4. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I’ve been having a conversation abt the whole Ferguson thing, and how that reaction to Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, and Eric Garner, including these current riots, completely ignore the facts in each case. One person made this astute comment: You can’t reason a person out of a position, they didn’t reason themselves into. No matter how (hard) you try.

    No kidding.

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    I don’t know where she found it but Deapster over at NQ posted the following and I damn near fainted dead away.

    Elijah Cummings: Quote of the Day.

    “Another thing that has been bothering me a lot is, I hear, over and over again, Black lives matter. Black lives matter – and they do matter.

    But black lives also have to matter to black people. And we know, over and over again, a lot of the victims of these crimes are African American. And we know a lot of the perpetrators are African American,” Cummings said.”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Wait, are you SURE it was Elijah Cummings who said this? The Representatives? Wow. I need to go find the smelling salts! 🙂

      Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Well, glad to see this, but more should be JOINING with Schumer because he is RIGHT: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/250856-dems-rally-around-schumer-despite-iran-stance

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Some of y’all may have heard a rumor going around abt something Carly Fiorina allegedly said abt Islam right after 9/11. It turns out, as the Chicks on the Right highlight, it is a rumor, nothing more (and they also get in a little dig abt the importance of VETTING candidates abt things they have said): http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/30351-let-s-address-carly-fiorina-s-comments-about-islam-right-after-9-11

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      And there you have it. I saw a clip from his most recent campaign stop. He was saying things like he is going to make America great again, with variations on that theme. No claims as to HOW he was going to do that – I guess with his Trump-ness. Seems to be enough for some folks…

  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    I’m sure those “angry” Trump supporters won’t have a problem with the latest proof that he is NO conservative. Maybe he thinks this will get back some of the female voters he’s alienated thus far.

    Just like the Obama supporters that never seem to have a problem with anything he says or does. Once you join a cult the thinking process dies.

    Trump: I May Not Defund Planned Parenthood

    Donald Trump suggested today that he wouldn’t completely defund Planned Parenthood, but instead would “look at the good aspects” of the organization and may continue to fund those. In other words, he would likely support the status quo.


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