Will The Real Donald Stand Up? And Hillary’s Hot Water *Open Thread*


Oh, this is rich. I have to say, I do love when truth will out. And this cannot be written off as some “youthful indiscretion,” oh, no. This was just back in 2007. Yep.

And that would be this little love note Donald Trump sent to none other than Nancy “Republicans Are Arsonists” Pelosi. From IJReview:

Donald Trump has called her one of the best, and now, it just might come back to bite him.

The real estate mogul sent then-House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi a copy of the January 5, 2007 edition of the New York Times with a note.

The above-the-fold headline story reads: ‘Jubilant Democrats Assume Control on Capitol Hill.’ The photo: Nancy Pelosi, a newly-minted House Majority Leader, shaking her gavel at the speaker’s chair alongside a crowd of children, in front of an American flag.

The note says:


You are the greatest!

Good luck–


See it, below:


(Click here to read the rest.)

Here is Donald Trump making clear that he has given money to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, in 2006 Jake Tapper made clear, to help Democrats reclaim Congress. You remember what they did with that power, right? Gave us Obamacare. Just saying. Anyway, here is Donald justifying the money given while claiming to be a “Conservative Republican”:

Uh, yeah. Sure. I am sure that is precisely why he told Nancy Pelosi she was “the best,” because he is a Conservative Republican. Right.

Meanwhile, maybe some folks are figuring out that all this hot air is just that – hot air. Turns out the good doctor, Ben Carson, is catching up to Trump. It’s still early days, but it is heartening to see that things are starting to shift some. Maybe people are finally realizing they need to look at what Trump has said and done in the not-so-distant past to get an idea of how valid are his claims now.

And speaking of the “real person standing up,” something I realize I could apply to a HOST of politicians, it turns out that Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), she of the faux Cherokee heritage, hypocritically supporting the OWS as a millionaire who made a bunch of her money flipping foreclosed upon homes by Fannie and Freddie, and who just met with VP Joe Biden in what appears to be a political pow-wow for a possible Presidential run, once wrote a paper criticizing that very same man. From The Hill:

[…] With his presidential aspirations growing, Senator Biden must be delighted … with the halo effect that suggests that he is one public official politically active women can trust,” Warren wrote in a 2002 Harvard Women’s Law Journal article.

Biden recently met with Warren — seen by many as wielding a powerful endorsement in the Democratic primary race — as he considers launching a presidential campaign.
Warren, who was elected to the Senate in 2012, has become a leading voice for the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. In 2002, years before her political career began, she criticized then-Sen. Biden (Del.) as siding with big credit card companies over working-class women in the debate on bankruptcy reform.


The International Business Times first reported on Warren’s criticism of Biden in the law journal.

Warren also questioned at the time whether Biden believed women were financially literate enough to understand what was in their interest.


In a 2003 book, co-authored with her daughter, Warren also wrote that “[s]enators like Joe Biden should not be allowed to sell out women in the morning and be heralded as their friend in the evening.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Uh huh. It is true what they say about politics making strange bedfellows. And how.

As bad as the Warren/Biden tete-at-tete was/is, Donald Trump sucking up to Rep. Nancy Pelosi then running as a Republican is worse. In my opinion, that is.

Meanwhile, late in the evening, there was a huge email dump of over 7,000 emails from Hillary Clinton’s time at State. And oh, is this not looking at all good for her. From Fox News:

The State Department released thousands of pages of Hillary Clinton’s emails Monday night that a department spokesman said contained 125 messages with material now considered classified.

State Department spokesman Mark Toner said the emails in question were “subsequently upgraded” to classified. He stressed that none of the emails was considered classified at the time.

However, the sheer number of emails that have been redacted stands as the latest example of how much sensitive material was contained in Clinton’s email transactions. The FBI is conducting an investigation into whether classified information that passed through Clinton’s so-called “homebrew” server was mishandled. Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.

The emails with redacted sections discussed global issues in countries from Haiti to China to Sudan.

One April 2010 email from Clinton’s top aide Huma Abedin containing a report from then-ambassador to China Jon Huntsman was redacted entirely, while a message from that September about “calls” Clinton said she was willing to make regarding trilateral talks over Sudan was likewise blacked out. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

To give you an idea of why this is so, so serious, Catherine Herridge explains it all below:

Ruh roh. From what Herridge said, there seems to be little doubt that Clinton should be in big trouble. I say SHOULD be because, well, you know – some people are not held to the same standards as others. I reckon we’ll see on this. But the bottom line is, this is extremely serious, whether Clinton wants to acknowledge it or not.

Seems she and The Donald have quite a bit in common, don’t they?

At least that’s what I think. How about you? This is an Open Thread.


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35 Responses to “Will The Real Donald Stand Up? And Hillary’s Hot Water *Open Thread*”

  1. helenk3 Says:

    lets start out in a good way


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thank you so much for this. I heard them sing this morning and was moved by the power of their voices while singing such a unifying piece…

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Doubtful news that Trump supported the much hated Pelosi will have any impact on his supporters. Like Obamacrats it doesn’t seem to matter that he’s a hypocrite and a liar. A boor and a braggart. A misogynist and a mountebank.

    The end result of falling love with some candidate is that unless you have the character and courage to say, “Oops was I wrong about that POS”, you continue to support and excuse.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I know that’s right, Marge. On the way home from the store, I heard Andrea Tantaros say that political people with whom she was speaking said that Trump people just don’t CARE abt all of the things he has said over the years, or the very NON-Conservative ideas he has proposed. They are ready to believe that whatever he says NOW is all that matters.

      It really is like whatever KoolAide the Obots were drinking, they passed across the aisle. It is astonishing.

  3. helenk3 Says:

  4. helenk3 Says:

    pc he ain’t

  5. helenk3 Says:

    a must read


    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I always love the way Thomas Sowell gets to the heart of a matter. Here, while stating categorically that he doesn’t think Trump would make a good president he also shows Bush for the weakling that he is. Ditto Bernie Sanders who also ran from the scumbag #BlackLivesMatter crowd. If you can’t stand up to lice like these you can’t stand up to the likes of Putin.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Great piece by Sowell. Thanks for this. He really does get to the heart of the matter.

      As for Bernie, I heard him speak for a few minutes the other day and was just INCREDULOUS that people are flocking to him. Good grief.

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    The Border Hoppers Liberals Don’t Love

    School districts jail and sue parents for trying to get their kids into better schools in places they can’t afford to live.


    Liberal hypocrisy is so prevalent in every facet of our lives that it almost seems a yawner to post one more thing.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Ohmygosh, that is just incredible! And of course, they cannot see the duplicity of their actions or, apparently, cannot translate their frustration with “outsiders” in their school districts to “outsiders” (read: Illegal aliens) throughout their cities taking advantage of entitlements for which they are not due.

      The irony, the irony…

  7. helenk3 Says:


    another cop shot

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    The Racist Cult of Black Fragility

    By Daniel Greenfield

    You can never be equal if you’re always angry and afraid.

    There is a war on black people.

    You hear about it from powerless black men like Barack Obama, Eric Holder and Al Sharpton. Black people can hardly leave the house without being shot by a cop for no reason at all. That’s what you hear from the activists of #BlackLivesMatter who illustrate the point by blocking traffic, harassing white people in restaurants and shoving elderly Democratic presidential candidates… without getting shot.

    Black racist activists and their white leftist allies like to talk up “White Fragility” which means that white people are used to sitting down for brunch without having fat black women yell in their faces about genocide. Or as the official definition would have it, white people are so insulated from critical dialogues about race that they get upset when those women, who are actually working on their PhDs in critical race theory, loudly accuse them of white supremacy.

    Or as the official definition goes, “call them out” for their white privilege.


    Spot on Greenfield, spot on!

  9. helenk3 Says:


    Bill thought Bloomenthal’s e-mails were brilliant. Why was Bill reading state dept e-mails? he was no longer president.

  10. helenk3 Says:


    good article

  11. helenk3 Says:

    I posted this back when backtrack was running. When I see the Donald speaking I keep thinking of this.

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Sharyl Attkisson has a good piece on the violation of the FOIA act with the new Clinton emails: https://sharylattkisson.com/new-hillary-clinton-emails-show-violation-of-freedom-of-information-law

    Sorry to have been away so long – we got a request last night for a showing at noon today, and I had a ton of stuff to do this morning (even though I just cleaned yesterday). Since the logs hadn’t been rinsed off on the porch, Suzy had to power wash them while I dried the floor and got all of the furniture back in place. Then I had to rinse off many of the windows to get the saw dust off. After that, it was mowing some of the yard. Then, DJ and I had to get out of here for a while.

    Anyway, FINGERS CROSSED that something good comes of the showing today!

  13. kenoshamarge Says:

    In case you heard about the police officer shot and killed in Fox Lake, Illinois I thought I would give you some personal information.

    Lou’s Mother lives about 2 blocks from where the shooting occurred. She tells us that officers were going from door to door and telling residents to stay inside. The killers are still on the loose the last I heard.

    The poor lady is just out of the hospital, again, and now she’s worried about some cop killing scumbags running loose in her neighborhood. Even though I’ve had a few “bad” days lately it’s nothing compared to what this poor women has gone through since her bypass. It just breaks our hearts because for a woman in her late 80’s she was lively and active and now she’s a shadow of herself.

    We both have had bad reactions from different medications they put us on but I have been lucky not to have to have the “repair” surgeries she has had. I suspect that I had a much better surgeon. I was fortunate to have one of the premier bypass surgeons in the Midwest.

    Here’s a link with some info on the shooting:


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Ohmygosh, Marge! That poor thing! Yes, bad enough that she has had all of these surgeries which are taking such a toll on her, but to be one of the residents abt whom I was hearing earlier having the police come to her door to warn her, too?? Good GRIEF, that is just unbelievable! Bless her heart, and y’all’s, too. I know you must be worried abt her.

      I am sorry that you have been having a hard time too, Marge. I always worry when I don’t hear from you…

      Btw, I am having some major technological issues here. ATT has completely gone out, so no phone, no tv, no internet, no nothing. Thank heavens for the iPad, though it is much harder to write posts on this. Hopefully, I will be able to get it working somehow…

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      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Actually my surgery and recovery were flawless. No problems except some scar tissue and its more an annoyance than anything else.

        It’s the damn medications. It seems both Elaine and I get several bad reactions from every blood pressure medication they put us one.

        I’m on my fifth medication and while there are some reactions they are less than the others and I’d prefer to stick with this one since I am able regulate it a little with certain foods and supplements. Every time I find something that works for me I pass it on to Elaine and she tries it too.

        I keep doing research online and talking to others who’ve had the surgery. Their experience is often enough to help both Elaine and I. She’s such a wonderful woman and it breaks my heart to see her beginning to give up. I talk to her often and crack corny jokes and try to help keep up her spirits, which also helps me so its not all that altruistic.

        I guess we’ve all become so used to hearing about bypass surgery that we think its like having your tonsils out these days. Not. So if you can prevent having to have it by eating right, exercising and not smoking I would recommend it. This is not fun.

        The surgery you’ve had and Foxy had was something out of your control. Elaine and I know that ours was mostly self-inflicted by making some bad choices along the way. Not a happy thought.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Oh, I know what you went through was most definitely not a walk in the park. I do understand what you mean, though, abt people thinking it is no big thing because people have them all the time. Kinda like how people minimize arthritis and back pain because they are so common, people don’t understand all of the ramifications of what they mean and do to a body.

          That said, I am glad the surgery itself went well, but I hear you abt the meds and their impact on you and Elaine. How frustrating that must be for you both!

          I used to smoke – smoked for abt 20 yrs, but gave it up at least 25 yrs ago (and drinking even before that). I have always been an exerciser, so hopefully that will help. But you just never know, right?

          Anyway, I am thankful indeed you are here with us!

          Btw, my internet won’t be fixed until at least late afternoon tomorrow, so I am afraid, no new post in the morning. My apologies!

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          • kenoshamarge Says:

            I gave up smoking on 9/11 – seemed so stupid and selfish to be killing myself one damn cigarette at a time when people were having to choose between burning to death or jumping from a burning building to their death.

            I am terrified of heights and the sight of people making the decision to jump has remained with me to this day.

            I quit drinking the same day. I knew that I might be tempted to smoke if I had a couple of my Killian Red brews so I quit drinking entirely. I wasn’t fit to be around for about 2 weeks and poor Lou found all kinds of things to do outside and out of range of my mouth.

            • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

              Good for you for giving up the smokes. I totally get it abt not drinking lest it entice you to smoke. I gave up drinking first, then a few years later, the cigarettes. What is weird is that I was always into exercising, like running, push ups, sit ups, yoga, all of that, and was athletic. But I can pinpoint exactly when I started (death of a grandmother), so there was an emotional component to it. Anyway, glad we both stopped!

              I completely understand abt the sights of 9/11 and the people jumping from the Towers. What a terrible sit to see, and I just cannot imagine the decision with which these people were faced. It was beyond tragic…

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  14. kenoshamarge Says:

    As long as the site is up we can still post and talk about the news of the day. Here’s something I found very interesting and very true.

    Exposing The Black Lives Matter Movement For What It Is: Promotion of Cop Killing

    It’s time to expose the Black Lives Matter [BLM] movement for what it is: a racist, violent hate group that promotes the execution of police officers. The evidence is in their rhetoric and written on their shirts.

    If you take a look at the Black Lives Matter Twitter feed, you’ll find photos of activists wearing shirts that say, “Assata Taught Me.”

    They’re referring to infamous cop killer Assata Shakur, otherwise known as Joanne Chesimard, who shot and killed a New Jersey State Trooper back in 1973. In 1977, Shakur was convicted and sentenced to prison but quickly escaped and has been a fugitive in Cuba ever since. She’s also on the FBI’s most wanted terrorism list. BLM glorifies Shakur as a hero and uses her writings and materials during training sessions.


    #BlackLivesMatter is exactly the kind of racist group the left accused the Tea Party of being. Tea Party politics was about smaller government and fiscal responsibility. #BlackLivesMatter is about racism and hate. But don’t expect the lefty media to tell anyone that. They’re still trying to tie the Tea Party to the Gabby Gifford’s shooting.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      You ain’t only kidding, Marge. That is exactly what it is! Megyn Kelly called out the Left for their incredible hypocrisy in supporting BLM when they TRASHED the Tea Party based on the alleged comments of a few (remember, the Dems sent in plants to agitate). That the TP was depicted as so horrible while this group of thugs is being praised says so, so much and none of it good.

      Along those lines, I saw an article at BizPac, I think it was, abt this black supremacist calling for killing whites. Where is the hue and cry THERE?

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