PP Richards Revelations; 9/11 Responders Betrayed; And Hacked? *Open Thread*


There is a whole lot going on in the news this week, and I want to touch on a few of them here.

First up is a follow up to Cecile Richards and her testimony in front of the the House Oversight And Government Reform Committee. This is a doozy because, as I suspected, Richards was UNDER OATH during her testimony. From The Hill:

[…] First, Planned Parenthood often says that abortions are only 3 percent of the services they offer. The Washington Post’s “Fact Checker” has given this dubious claim “three Pinocchios.” When Richards was asked to divide the number of patients Planned Parenthood saw last year by the number of abortions, the answer was 12 percent. Even more amazingly, when federal funds are exempted, 86 percent of Planned Parenthood’s revenue comes from abortions.

Second, Richards and Planned Parenthood advocates regularly claim that women receive mammograms at Planned Parenthood facilities — as she did on CNN in 2011, to give one example. Asked by freshman Rep. Mia Love (R-Utah) if Planned Parenthood facilities offer mammograms, Richards admitted that they don’t. None of the 650 to 700 facilities offer mammograms, nor do they even have the equipment.

Third, Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.), the author of the bill to end taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood by shifting the funding to community health centers, asked Richards to explain her claim that her bill would block access for women’s health. Community health centers outnumber Planned Parenthood facilities by at least tenfold, and they offer additional services like mammograms that Planned Parenthood does not offer. Richards had no real answer.

Fourth, Rep. Steve Russell (R-Okla.) asked the single most interesting question of the day: If federal funds do not go to abortion services, would ending federal funding reduce abortion services? He cleverly caught Richards in a trap. Admit that federal funding goes to abortion, and Planned Parenthood is violating federal law. Admit that ending federal funding doesn’t reduce abortion services, and you undercut the defense of Planned Parenthood’s funding. She had no real answer and was clearly stumped. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

With this information provided, especially about the tremendous revenue from performing abortions, how is that Congress passed funding for Planned Parenthood anyway? That is the question.

Another question raised by that very budget is another troubling one. That is the decision by Congress not to continue funding the Zadroga Act. From the NY Daily News:

[…] It’s the first piece of the larger Zadroga Act — which was named after the late NYPD officer who like Poliseno has sarcoidosis, an inflammatory growth of cells in the lungs and lymph nodes — to expire.

The rest of the provisions will cease Sept. 30, 2016, including the victim’s compensation fund, which pays people who were too injured to work after suffering 9/11 injuries.

The clinics won’t shut down immediately. Under the law in place, they will keep operating for a year with existing funds.

But nearly everyone admits they will still have problems because of Congress’ inaction.

“There will be consequences,” said Benjamin Chevat, executive director of the advocacy group Citizens for Extension of the James Zadroga Act.

Namely, the program will have difficulty retaining and attracting staff because they can only offer short contracts. And many of the clinics won’t be able to renew contracts with hospitals because of an uncertain future, he said.

The Zadroga Act was named after the late NYPD Det. James Zadroga.
But most importantly, the people who need the clinics — many of whom have PTSD or long-term illnesses like cancer — “will have the burden of additional stress as to what will become of their medical care,” Chevat said. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Let”s just think about that for a minute. The Congress decided NOT to defund Planend Parenthood even after Cecile Richards was forced to acknowledge that yes, providing abortions is their big money maker andthey perform NO mammograms. Yet Congress did not vote to extend this Act that would provide much needed healthcare for the first responders at the Towers in New York City? Are you kidding me with this? Talk about misplaced priorities…

Speaking of misplaced priorities, that (naturally) leads me to Hillary Clinton and the latest revelations about her emails. It seems the Russians had some interest in Hillary Clinton’s email account.

You know, Russia – the one Donald Trump wanted to leave Syria to to fight ISIS who just Wednesday started bombing sites to support Assad while John Kerry stood next to the Russian Foreign Minister after the bombing began making up words and generally looked like an idiot. That Russia. The one that blindsided our Pentagon with this action in Syria.

Anyway, it turns out that Russia tried to hack Clinton’s emails. From The Hill:

[…] Citing newly released emails, the AP said that at least five times, Clinton received emails disguised as speeding tickets that asked her to print attached files.

If she had done so, it would exposed her account. It’s unclear whether Clinton clicked on any of the links in the emails. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

There was one sentence in there that was very important: “It is unclear whether Clinton clicked on any of the links in the emails.”


But wait. It gets worse – for Hillary, that is. From the Daily Beast:

[…] Hillary Clinton’s closest confidantes mused about the risks of using private email accounts even as they were corresponding with their boss who used one exclusively, according to new State Department emails released on Wednesday.

In one June 2011 email, recently-departed Director of Policy Planning Anne-Marie Slaughter wrote that senior State Department officials, “routinely end up using their home email accounts” due to the antiquated nature of the State Department’s technology, and that someone inside or outside the Department should issue a statement or op-ed on the “woeful state” of affairs.

Clinton originally agrees with this suggestion, writing to her aides that it “makes sense” to do this, but her chief of staff quickly shoots the idea down.

Cheryl Mills, her top aide, indicates that someone had previously tried to hack her email — “as someone who attempted to be hacked [sic] (yes I was one),” she wrote — she didn’t want the public to know how common the practice of using a non-official email account was.

“I am not sure we want to telegraph how much folks do or don’t do off state mail b/c it may encourage others who are out there,” Mills wrote. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Ruh roh. That can’t be good for Clinton. If the FBI/DOJ does its job, that is. Not holding my breath on that one, though.

Lots of important news out there today, so feel free to talk about any of the above, or whatever else is on your minds today. This is an Open Thread.


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47 Responses to “PP Richards Revelations; 9/11 Responders Betrayed; And Hacked? *Open Thread*”

  1. helenk3 Says:


    attention needs to be paid to this

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I knew Lynch was going to be bad news. But the Senate confirmed her anyway. She continues Holder’s work, only in a quieter and less overtly hostile fashion. WOW.

  2. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    This is just astonishing. The Dems at the Hearing with Cecile Richards tried to play the “stop being mean to the little woman” card, just as they did when Clinton was in front of the Senate. They treat women like we are incapable of standing up for ourselves, like we need to be coddled. In short, int he most SEXIST manner. Yet THEY claim to be the party for Women.

    Then you have someone like Richards making the claim the questions were “sexist.” She CLEARLY has never seen any other hearings on the Hill. WOW, these women are taking us back DECADES: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2015/10/01/cecile-richards-claims-she-faced-sexist-questions-at-planned-parenthood-hearing-n2059434

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Liberals want women in the White House and in combat but don’t want them to have to answer “mean” questions? WTH?

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    While no fan of Putin and certainly not of Bashir Assad I am glad that someone is willing to fight ISIS. And yes, if Russia is going to support the Assad regime they will bomb those who seek to depose him. I would support getting rid of the murderous thug Assad if anyone seemed to have any idea what would replace him. Would Syria then become a failed state like Iraq, Libya and Egypt after the horrible dictators that at least offered some stability were deposed?

    Despite the constant drumbeats by the neo-cons and the media about Putin’s actions I support him in this one issue. Somehow whenever John McCain thunders against something I tend to lean the other way. And the drumbeats against Russia and Putin are nowhere louder than on FOX and Special Report. I tend to mute Krauthammer these days. His bellicosity has become tiresome to me.

    Obama? Does anyone care what he and Kerry say?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Except that Russia does not seem to be bombing ISIS installations. It seems they are targeting CIA-backed rebels: http://www.thenewscommenter.com/news/russian-strikes-target-cia-supported-rebels/395009

      That is problematic, to put it mildly.

      I appreciate the resistance to All Things McCain – I am sorely disappointed in how he has turned out, to be sure. So I totally get that. But that the pentagon was so blindsided by this, and that Kerry appeared so weak and ineffectual standing beside the Russian FM after they basically stepped all over us, is troubling.

      If the Russians WERE fighting ISIS, that would be one thing. But so far, that has not happened…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I believe the Russians have to get rid of the rebels first. They cannot have anti-Assad forces attacking them from the rear. This is just supposition on my part.

        The fact that the Pentagon and the Obama Administration is indicative of their priorities. It was more important to try to get women into combat and a Gay man in charge of the Army than to actually protect this country as they are all sworn to go.

        I want everyone in this country to be all that they can be without bigotry or bias. I do NOT want people to be an agenda at the sacrifice of the safety of the nation.

        Give the Pentagon and Obama failing grades in that.

        And I don’t understand why it is wrong when Russia does something but right when we do it. I also believe that Russia will attack and kill ISIS – they have their own terrorist problems so it is to their advantage. And they will do, as all countries do, what is to their advantage.

        This is how I am seeing things at present. Changing events can certainly change my perspective.

        Right now the beating of the war drums against Russia is raising the hair on the back of my neck. We’ve heard these drums before.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I appreciate that, Marge. I think the problem is with Russia gaining more power in general, and possibly dominion over the Middle East. That is what is troubling to many people. Russia/Putin don’t play by the rules, as we have seen in Ukraine and Syria already.

          That is why what Romney said in the 2012 debate was so prescient abt Putin, despite Obama’s childish retort abt “The ’80’s are calling and they want their National security plan back,” or whatever dismissive, churlish remark he made.

          Then there is this, the joining of forces between Iran and Russia in Syria: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/01/cia-backed-rebels-civilians-reportedly-targeted-by-russian-airstrikes-in-syria/

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            Dangit – I meant to say that you are right abt Obama damaging our military and National Security in general with his grand “social experiment.”

    • mcnorman Says:

      Erstwhile Wimpy sits like a stick in mud. Russia needs the area. Their economy is really a mess. (like ours is not?) Putin is a heck of alot smarter than teh won. He knows exactly what wimpy is capable of…lots of words but that is it.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Here’s some news from your neck of the woods you may find interesting.

    Concealing the Facts on Refugee Resettlement

    By Michael Cutler

    A case study on how the media and duplicitous politicians hide the truth from the public.

    As ISIS, the Nusra Front (an al Qaeda affiliate operating in Syria) and other terror organizations continue spreading death and violence in Syria, increasing numbers of Syrians are literally running for their lives.

    Europe has witnessed a tsunami of refugees and Secretary of State John Kerry has promised to increase the number of refugees that the United States will admit.

    Communities that have already been accepting refugees, and not just from Syria, are questioning the wisdom of this effort and the way that refugees are being vetted. One such community is to be found in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

    It is important to note that the member of the House of Representatives who represents Spartanburg in Congress is none other than Representative Trey Gowdy who also chairs the House Subcommittee on Immigration. He has also voiced serious concerns about the way that the refugee program is being administered and has been unhappy with the lack of information being provided — even to him as the chairman of the subcommittee that is constitutionally mandated to provide oversight over our entire immigration system. He has been quoted as describing responses to his questions about the resettlement of refugees in Spartanburg as being “sorely inadequate.”


    Another reason why Trey Gowdy shouldn’t leave congress just yet. I can understand why a man of principal like Gowdy would be unhappy and uncomfortable in the House. But without any men of principle who will speak for the people? Lord knows people of principle in this country are few and far between. Certainly fewer and farther between in politics and media than elsewhere.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good grief. I knew that there were refugees and illegal aliens being settled in SC, often without the knowledge of the officials here. It is more of this Administration’s undermining of the United States, it seems to me. The Democrats seem HELLBENT on changing the very fabric of this nation…

      And I agree – I think people would BEG Rep. Gowdy to please run again. That there is a big difference between politicians who want nothing more than to keep their power and position and will do whatever they can to keep it, and a true Representative of the people. We have far too many of the former, and far too few of the latter. Gowdy is most definitely in that latter group…

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    Unnecessary Loss of Life

    By Walter E. Williams

    The deadly price of politically correct rules of engagement.

    War is nasty, brutal and costly. In our latest wars, many of the casualties suffered by American troops are a direct result of their having to obey rules of engagement created by politicians who have never set foot on — or even seen — a battlefield. Today’s battlefield commanders must be alert to the media and do-gooders who are all too ready to demonize troops involved in a battle that produces noncombatant deaths, so-called collateral damage.

    According to a Western Journalism article by Leigh H Bravo, “Insanity: The Rules of Engagement” (http://tinyurl.com/p59nlqs), our troops fighting in Afghanistan cannot do night or surprise searches. Also, villagers must be warned prior to searches. Troops may not fire at the enemy unless fired upon. U.S. forces cannot engage the enemy if civilians are present. And only women can search women.

    Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney said: “We handcuffed our troops in combat needlessly. This was very harmful to our men and has never been done in U.S combat operations that I know of.” Collateral damage and the unintentional killing of civilians are a consequence of war. But the question we should ask is: Are our troops’ lives less important than the inevitable collateral damage?


    I am NOT advocating unnecessary brutality but the point of a war is to win it. My instincts tell me it is best to get in, win and get out as quick as we can. And I am also convinced that the last thing we need or want is a bunch of grandstanding politicians telling warriors how to make war. Trying to make was PC is a good way to have a lot of dead soldiers, ours, IMO and to lose. Something we’ve become accustomed to ever since World War 2.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      This passage was telling indeed: “Insanity: The Rules of Engagement” (http://tinyurl.com/p59nlqs), our troops fighting in Afghanistan cannot do night or surprise searches. Also, villagers must be warned prior to searches. Troops may not fire at the enemy unless fired upon. U.S. forces cannot engage the enemy if civilians are present…

      That sounds an awful lot like what we are doing with Iran – giving all kinds of notice before doing something giving them time to hide or dispose of items for which our military would be searching. WTH??? This is just IDIOTIC.

      I’m with you. Wars cannot be fought from a PC base. War is hell, as they say. And it should be swift and powerful. Doing this kind of tippy-toeing around the enemy is NOT going to get the job done.

  6. helenk3 Says:


    Senate dems tell boehner to disband Benghazi commmittee,
    getting too close to the truth maybe?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, no doubt they are getting too close to the truth as more and more of Clinton’s emails come out…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      My concern is that Boehner might, in a final act of spite, do what the Dems ask. Has he been promised some cushy job with a large salary for his treason?

      His performance on Meet the Press sure made him no friends in the conservative part of the Republican Party. He should have been looking in the mirror when he said “beware of false prophets”. Notice how much better the left loves him now that the right’s disdain for him has brought him down.

      Why even Obama is upset. http://comicincorrect.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/More-Crying-NRD-600.jpg

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        GREAT cartoon – no doubt Obama is upset because Boehner let him win at every turn.

        And no kidding abt looking in the mirror when he made that sanctimonious comment. To talk abt saying his daily prayers than to attack members of his own Party says a whole heeluva lot abt ol’ Boehner…

  7. helenk3 Says:


    I hope they do not make this guy speaker. He does not sound like the sharpest tool in the shed

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yeah – I saw something somewhere abt how his comments were taken out of context (shocking), but still, not smart…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      His clarification of his remarks was even worse. Not Speaker material IMHO. Time for someone that can do the job as it should be done.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I agree, Marge – I was not at ALL impressed by his response yesterday. There are better people to be Speaker than McCarthy…

  8. helenk3 Says:


    must read

  9. foxyladi14 Says:

    Happy October dear Friends. 😀

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Same to you, Foxy!

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      The same to you Dear Foxy!

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:


        I am so hoping to see some Fall Foliage when we go to Glacier National Park in two weeks for a week. Though we could just as easily see snow.

        Suzy has been to all 50 states, and while I have been to a good number of them, I have not been to a lot of the Western states (UT, the Dakotas, Wyoming, for instance). I will get to cross Idaho off my list, too, when we drive from Spokane to Glacier. Cannot wait!

        Oh – as usual, if anyone has opinions just burning to get out, posts are always welcome. There will be reminders as the time approaches…

  10. helenk3 Says:


    Bibi tells like it is

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It was a brilliant, impassioned speech. I was glad Outnumbered showed the whole thing. Bibi is one impressive leader who clearly cares deeply abt his country. And his words certainly convicted the UN for its standing by Iran while demonizing Israel. THAT alone speaks volumes abt the UN, IMO.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        No wonder Obama doesn’t “like” Netanyahu – he’s twice the leader and ten times the man Obama could ever hope to be.

        I love this picture of Bibi. He’s wearing what my Dad always called a “shit-eating” grin. I find the grin, if not Dad’s term for it, charming.

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Perhaps this will finally silence those who prefer to shoot the messenger rather than heed the message abt those video tapes: http://www.westernjournalism.com/everyone-said-fiorina-lied-about-planned-phood-at-gop-debate-then-this-video-was-just-released/

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I doubt anything will silence the creeps who defend the indefensible but it does show them up for the liars that they are.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        True – but if nothing else, it gives ammunition for Fiorina to use with her detractors. I cannot imagine they won’t bring this up at the next debate. She has been asked abt it pretty much since she said it. Because, you know, it is all abt what she said, not what is revealed in those videos…

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Once again, we have had a terrible tragedy, this time at a Community College in Oregon. There are 13 reported dead, the 20 yr old shooter was shot and killed by police, and a number of injured. At this point, we know very little abt the shooter except that he apparently demanded people stand up and declare their religion.

    That did not stop Obama from making this a political issue. Stephen Hayes just mentioned that there were 50 shootings in Chicago over the weekend – why didn’t the President say anything abt THAT? But no – once again, he goes off before we know ANYTHING abt what happened in Oregon, tragic as it is.For heaven’s sake – can he not just extend deepest sympathies to the families, and save the politics for later?! WOW. From The Hill: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/255723-obama-mass-shootings-should-be-politicized

    And along those lines, my deepest sympathies to the families of those killed today by the young gunman. I pray, too, for a speedy recovery for those who were injured. May they be comforted in this time of shock and mourning…

  13. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    If you have time, I highly recommend watching this speech by Sen. Ted Cruz (h/t Facebook friend). I watched the whole thing and could not help but be impressed by him. And worried for his safety. Oh – and he appears to be speaking extemporaneously, too:

  14. helenk3 Says:


    Whoopi Fired!!!!!!!!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      How abt that?! Wow!

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      What I found really hilarious, other than Whoopi getting fired, was the idea that bringing back Behar would save the show. Are they serious? She failed at everything she tried when she went on her own. Now she’s gonna save “The View”? I think not.

  15. helenk3 Says:


    Brian Terry’s murderers found guilty

    how screwed up is this? we armed the cartels with guns through fast and furious, but arm the border patrol with beanbags

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Glad they were found guilty – that is some justice at least, though it took WAAAAAYYYYY too long for this trial to take place.

      And it is INSANE. It is INSANE that we do not allow our Border Patrol agents to be properly armed.

      It is that kind of thing that highlights the need for a REAL Leader.

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