President”s Preference For Politicization *Open Thread*

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The most recent example of President Obama’s preference for politicization of issues is not new. He has been reacting this way since his first term. But as Obama prepares to go to Roseburg, OR, a town that would prefer he stay home, Obama’s MO is front and center once again.

And it is this penchant for politicization by President Obama about which Jonah Goldberg reflects in his good piece, “Why Obama Prefers Politicization To Actual Politcs.” Here are some of the reasons why as espoused by Goldberg. From Townhall:

[…] “Of course,” Obama said Thursday night, “what’s also routine is that somebody, somewhere, will comment and say, ‘Obama politicized this issue.’ Well, this is something we should politicize. It is relevant to our common life together, to the body politic.”

This was a nice Aristotelian flourish. “Man is a political animal,” Aristotle said, and it is through politics that we decide how we should all live together.

But ultimately Obama was just paying lip service to an ideal he does not live by. He’s not about to try building consensus on gun policy among people of good faith. He’ll take the same approach he’s taken throughout his presidency: He’ll delegitimize opponents of his sweeping agenda as irrational, self-interested enemies of decency and progress.

As the Washington Examiner’s Byron York recently noted, Obama has a long history of trying to shut down disagreement by accusing his critics of politicization. He accused Republicans of trying to politicize abortion, the U.S. relationship with Israel, the Iran deal, Benghazi and the scandals at the IRS and the VA. Just last week he insinuated that Hillary Rodham Clinton’s disagreements with his Syria policy (or lack thereof) are influenced by the fact that she’s running for office.

The common denominator in all of these cases is Obama’s unimpeachable certainty that he has a monopoly on all the good arguments and all the best motives. Now he even claims the exclusive right to politicize issues when it suits him.

Ohmygosh, how true is that? Obama attacks anyone he claims is “politicizing” an issue, but cannot WAIT to do the same himself. And with his ego, he is certain that he, alone, in all the world, is right. Obama reminds me of a Cheryl Wheeler song, “Frequently Wrong, But Never in Doubt.

Back to Jonah Goldberg’s Townhall piece:

[…] “We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings,” Obama said. “Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it.”

The disingenuousness was breathtaking.

One can forgive the average American, not to mention the typical White House correspondent, for not knowing how Britain and Australia dealt with gun violence. But Obama knows. Both countries employed massive gun confiscation programs (programs that depend on national gun registries so the government can find them). The British in effect banned handguns. Obama may consider that a reasonable, common-sense approach, but he knows full well that millions of Americans don’t.

[…]

Virtually none of the proposals on his gun-control wish list — more comprehensive federal background checks, closing the gun show “loophole,” etc. — would help bring down the homicide rate. It’s not just a tautology to note that most gun crimes are committed by criminals — with guns obtained illegally. Enforcing existing laws or restoring stop-and-frisk policies in big cities would save more lives than shuttering gun shows.

Nor would his proposals have prevented the deaths at Umpqua Community College. Typically, mass killers don’t buy guns at gun shows. And a 2013 CNN analysis found that a comprehensive background check system wouldn’t have prevented any of the most heinous mass shootings in recent years, save one: The Virginia Tech shooter should have failed a background test but didn’t. That murderer — like the Tucson, Sandy Hook and, most likely, Umpqua killers — had serious mental health problems. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

And that’s the thing with all this politicization by Obama, and other Democrats like Hillary Clinton: none of these proposals would have made a damn bit of difference in these killings. It is just an opportunity for the Democrats to assail once again the Second Amendment and try to make it harder and harder for good, law abiding Americans to arm themselves.

It also begs the question: why? Why would the US Government want Americans to be defenseless, especially considering the rise of violence in a number of cities. And why would the US Government want to take away the ability of Americans to feed their families and themselves? That seems to be the end game for this Administration, and Hilary’s too, if she wins. Of course, that is an assumption on my part, one based on her claiming that the NRA is comparable to “Iranians and Communists.” So you can see how I made that leap…

A friend of mine on Facebook posted a comment he saw about this whole gun control discussion and the Government. The author (unknown) asks a good question, I think:

“So you want a government that says they don’t have the manpower to round up 12,000,000 illegals in the country to try and take over 310,000,000 guns from over 110,000,000 owners? Just how do you propose to do that without inciting another war?”

Indeed. But the War of Words targeting lawful gun owners has already begun, and not just with this most recent event. Oh,no. You may recall Obama mentioned gun control during his “eulogy” at the funeral for the Emanuel AME victims in Charleston.

One thing is clear: there are very few (any?) issues that President Obama will not politicize if he thinks he can get something out of it. Even the deaths of innocent people are not out of bounds for him. And that says something…

This is an Open Thread.

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32 Responses to “President”s Preference For Politicization *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Obama is not only a liar, he’s a hypocrite. And every corrupt media type that supports his lies and hypocrisy is a disgrace to the name of journalism. The Ezra Klein School of Journalism of this country shame us all.

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    As usual the cartoonists are saying things far better than I can this morning. So much truth said with so little. I loved this one:

  4. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    BREAKING NEWS: Kevin McCarthy drops out of House Speaker race: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/us/politics/house-speaker-vote.html?_r=0

  5. helenk3 Says:

    hehill.com/homenews/house/256365-mccarthy-drops-out-of-speakers-race

    GOOD. after the damage his big mouth did, he should not be speaker

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I actually have more respect for him for withdrawing, and saying he did not believe he could unite the conference. I’m sure he’s disappointed but he has no one to blame but himself. Hopefully he’s learned a good lesson about running your mouth and what it can do.

      The public dislikes the way politicians parse their words but here is a perfect example of why they do it. This and the smears Jeb Bush is taking for a clumsy expression.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Me too, Marge. I am glad he took the bullet and stepped aside. It was the right thing to do.

        And good point abt the parsing of words. The cartoon you put up abt how the media alters what is said really summed it up.

    • foxyladi14 Says:

      I agree Helen. 🙂

  6. helenk3 Says:

    he was protecting a friend

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-french-train-hero-spencer-stone-repeatedly-stabbed-last-night/

    prayers for him

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thank HEAVENS he is still alive. I am not one bit surprised that he was protecting someone (a woman, from what I just heard). He was jumped by a bunch of guys – 6, I think he said. WOW.

  7. foxyladi14 Says:

    Sending prayers. ❤

  8. helenk3 Says:

  9. helenk3 Says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/08/judge-shuts-hillarys-request-combine-trials-one/

    Hillary might be spending too much time in court to campaign

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Check out this disturbing news abt Ahmed the (not really a) Clock Maker’s dad. And after that, if you can PLEASE tell me why this kid is being lauded all over the world, I would appreciate it because I don’t get it one bit: http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-megyn-kelly-just-uncovered-a-disturbing-new-twist-about-clock-boys-father/?

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Okay, I agree with Gowdy is very smart – no doubt abt that. Interesting to see what Gowdy has to say abt this: http://www.ijreview.com/2015/10/440009-trey-gowdy-names-one-man-believes-best-leader-congress

  12. helenk3 Says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/10/he_stopped_a_jihadist_in_france_now_hes_been_stabbed_in_california.html

    a very good article with something to think about

  13. helenk3 Says:

    http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/roseburg-rally-goes-viral-patriots-standing-nationwide/

    Roseburg rally goes viral. nationwide

    I have never seen this before.
    bacltrack may have pushed a little too far with his gun control stance

  14. helenk3 Says:

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-defense-state-department-documents-reveal-obama-administration-knew-that-al-qaeda-terrorists-had-planned-benghazi-attack-10-days-in-advance/

    backtrack bunch knew that Benghazi attack had been planned 10 days in advance

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      But of course they did. And the question abt why Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood after they knew can be shortened to: WHY does Obama support the Muslim Brotherhood?? As I have said countless times, the MB’s top two tenets are to wage jihad on the USA and on Israel. As POTUS, the first one alone should stop him from supporting it, shouldn’t it?!

  15. helenk3 Says:

    1 student killed, 4 others wounded in shooting at Northern Arizona University’s Flagstaff campus, says school spokesperson; suspect in custody – @ABC
    Read more on abcnews.go.com
    Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ
    39m
    School reports suspected shooter is in custody following incident at Northern Arizona University – @NAU
    See original on twitter.com

  16. helenk3 Says:

    Good Morning

    https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12096478_729514680536697_6961479665047118563_n.jpg?oh=bcc2a8c23a113e1d2fb36ee0b976f55f&oe=5694F89A

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Good Morning to you Helen. Beautiful image!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Lovely, Helen – thank you!

      The tide is coming in here, and I have been watching 3 kittens romp around outside while I exercise. Their mom has been hanging around here, but I had no idea there were kittens – they bush hogged the lot next door, and I think that forced them out. They are ADORABLE. If I can get some photos, I’ll share them.

      Once the Charleston Animal Society isn’t so inundated dealing with all the rescues after the flood, I will ask them to come out and do their “Trap, Alter, Vaccinate, Release.” Don’t know if the kittens can be adopted or not. They are as feral as their mother is…

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        That said, our oldest cat, Punkin’, was a feral kitten. She is amazingly affectionate, sweet, and loving. 🙂

  17. kenoshamarge Says:

    Flip-flops Show Hillary’s Long On Ambition, Short on Principles

    By Jonah Goldberg

    Hillary Clinton revealed on Wednesday that she opposes the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, providing just the latest evidence that she is little more than political ambition wrapped in a pantsuit.

    Pay attention to the press coverage, because it’s fascinating: Nobody takes Clinton at her word. I’m not just referring to her conservative critics.

    Slate’s Jim Newell asks, “Will anyone find Clinton’s position convincing?” The question is purely rhetorical. The article is headlined “Hillary Clinton Comes Out Against TPP, at Least Until the Democratic Convention.”

    In “First Read,” a newsletter put out by “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd and his colleagues, the lead item on Thursday was titled “Why Clinton’s Trade Flip-Flop Is So Unbelievable.” They write:

    “Yes, Hillary Clinton’s new opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade accord cleans up something she needed to do before next week’s first Democratic debate. And, yes, it puts pressure on Vice President Joe Biden getting into the race (because he’d be on the only major candidate in support of TPP). But make no mistake: This flip-flop isn’t believable at all.”

    http://townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/2015/10/09/flipflops-show-hillarys-long-on-ambition-short-on-principles-n2063145

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      AHAHAHA – great cartoon! And Jonah is so right – it is just astonishing that Hillary is being so OBVIOUS abt her flip flops, isn’t it?

  18. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Okay – get ready for some kitten (and Momma Cat, whom we call “Puss ‘N Boots for her four white feet) cuteness. The first one has the momma cat, and the twins:

    DSC_0307

    DSC_0321

    DSC_0313

    DSC_0317

  19. helenk3 Says:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260399/million-man-fraud-comes-washington-matthew-vadum

    backtrack’s bffs coming to DC on Saturday.

    warnings to police given out, then called back as being racist

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