“Oh, The Places We Will Go” (And Other Musings) *Open Thread*


Since today is the day we celebrate Columbus Day, I have a couple of thoughts to share before I mention some political issues of the day.

Now, I am not getting into whether or not this day should be renamed to honor Native Americans, though I certainly think Native Americans have gotten short shrift in this country in many ways. What happened to tribes in this country centuries ago was terrible. Some was intentional of course, but the spreading of diseases that wiped out so many was not. The result was the same – too many Native Americans died.

But that is not the focus for me today. Rather, I was thinking about what it takes for someone to get into a ship, powered by nothing else but the wind, with little more than the stars by which to navigate, and take off looking for new lands. No GPS, no telephones, no nothing to help him make his way except for the limited navigational aids of the day.

Now, I know Columbus was on his way elsewhere when he hit our neck of the woods. But still – what must it take to be an explorer, to risk life and limb, heading into the Great Unknown? I am reminded of this sculpture, one of my favorites, at Brookgreen Gardens:

"Into the Unknown," Brookgreen Gardens

“Into the Unknown,” Brookgreen Gardens

Just think about the sheer number of things that could have gone wrong on the voyage undertaken by Columbus: storms, possible mutiny, and lack of wind, to name just a few. And then think about all that had to go RIGHT for him to arrive in a new land in one piece, with his SHIP in one piece, and with his crew intact. It just boggles the mind.

I was thinking about all of this even before going to the movies, but while watching “The Martian,” I couldn’t help but be struck by the spirit demonstrated by astronauts. They are truly modern day explorers. They can have an informed guess about what they might encounter in space, more so than what Columbus could have known in his day, to be sure. But still – it is SPACE, and anything could go wrong. Heck, it HAS gone wrong. Take for instance Apollo 13. Had it not been for duct tape, that mission would likely have failed.

Funny story about that: years ago, a friend asked if I could stay with the daughter and pet of a rabbi friend of hers who was taking a group to Israel. As the Rabbi (a former NYC police officer) was showing me around the house, letting me know where everything was, I will never forget him pulling out a drawer and showing me where the duct tape and WD-40 were. He then told me that his grandfather was one of the people at Mission Control figuring out how to fix the problem on Apollo 13. He concluded that there was nothing you could not fix with duct tape or WD-40. That was a valuable lesson indeed!

But just think about what it takes for these astronauts to buckle themselves into these space ships, to hurtle through space at unimaginable speeds, ESPECIALLY after some missions have failed. What must it take to be an explorer of space now, or of the world centuries ago? To have no idea what one might find, to be so far away from assistance or help if needed, to literally be putting one’s life on the line to discover, to explore, and to learn what is out there? It is truly mind boggling the “places we will go,” at least to me…

As for the politics portion for today, the majority of the talk this morning is about Bowe Bergdahl and the recommendation that this traitor had enough punishment by being tortued after deserting his post, and should not receive confinement. It is a truly astonishing claim to me. Earlier today, I saw a former unit member of Bergdahl’s, retired Sergeant Jordan Vaughan, who in a few words destroyed the defense attorney’s argument that Bergdahl was trying to get to another base to inform them how poorly things were run. Vaughan said they were DRIVING to that base the very next morning, so why in the world would Bergdahl leave his weapon and other aids behind and trying to walk the 90 miles? It defies any reasoning. Vaughan also said he wasn’t surprised by the recommendation since the Army has looked bad from the get-go by taking a man who was dumped by the Coast Guard. He added it is all political now. We will see what Gen. Abrams decides to do, but it sure would be good if the Army did the RIGHT THING and held this man accountable for his actions, for the loss of life his actions caused, and for the far-reaching impact a “time served” verdict will have.

The Federalist has an outstanding, albeit incredibly DISTURBING, article highlighting “5 Things We’ve Learned Since The First Planned Parenthood Video.” I recommend it to you, but I have to warn you that some of the things we have learned are gruesome indeed. The very first one about made me throw up, so just be forewarned.

Finally, Obama’s old minister, Jeremiah Wright, hater of America, made some interesting claims at a Nation of Islam – LOUIS FARRAKHAN – sponsored march this past weekend. From Jerusalem Post:

Jeremiah Wright, President Barack Obama’s former pastor, called Israel an apartheid state and said “Jesus was a Palestinian” at a rally in Washington hosted by the Rev. Louis Farrakhan.

At an hours-long event Saturday on the National Mall titled “Justice or Else,” Wright said that African-Americans, Native Americans and Palestinians have suffered under the “three-headed demon” of “racism, militarism and capitalism.”

“The same issue is being fought today and has been fought since 1948, and historians are carried back to the 19th century … when the original people, the Palestinians — and please remember, Jesus was a Palestinian — the Palestinian people had the Europeans come and take their country,” Wright said, The Hill reported. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Wow. Just wow, on oh-so-many levels. This mindset, one that Obama listened to for decades, explains a whole lot about the direction of this country, does it not?

That’s it for me today. What’s on your minds this Columbus Day? This is an Open Thread.


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32 Responses to ““Oh, The Places We Will Go” (And Other Musings) *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    Just to start your day with a smile

    Some Fun Facts You Might Never Have Wanted To Know:

    If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days you would have produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee. (Hardly seems worth it.)

    If you farted consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough gas is produced to create the energy of an atomic bomb. (Now that’s more like it!)

    The human heart creates enough pressure when it pumps out to the body to squirt blood 30 feet.

    A pig’s orgasm lasts 30 minutes. (In my next life, I want to be a pig.)

    A cockroach will live nine days without its head before it starves to death. Creepy. (I’m still not over the pig.)

    Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour. (Don’t try this at home; maybe at work.)

    The male praying mantis cannot copulate while its head is attached to its body. The female initiates sex by ripping the male’s head off. (Hey honey I’m home. What the ..? )

    The flea can jump 350 times its body length. It’s like a human jumping the length of a football field. (30 minutes. Lucky pig! Can you imagine?)

    The catfish has over 27,000 taste buds. (What could be so tasty on the bottom of a pond?)

    Some lions mate over 50 times a day. (I still want to be a pig in my next life…quality over quantity.)

    Butterflies taste with their feet. (Something I always wanted to know.)

    The strongest muscle in the body is the tongue. (Hmmm…)

    Right-handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left-handed people. (If you’re ambidextrous, do you split the difference?)

    Elephants are the only animals that cannot jump. (Okay, so that would be a good thing.)

    A cat’s urine glows under a black light. (I wonder how much the government paid to figure that out.)

    An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain. (I know some people like that.)

    Starfish have no brains. (I know some people like that, too.)

    Polar bears are left-handed. (If they switch, they’ll live a lot longer.)

    Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure. (What about that pig? Do the dolphins know about the pig?)

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Holy smokes, those facts are FASCINATING!! And funny too, I might add. Thanks, Marge!

    • foxyladi14 Says:


      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Hi Foxy, how are you doing? How’s the legs working? Running marathons yet? I’m putting mine off because I don’t want to embarrass all the young folks by having a dumpy old lady passing them up. (In my dreams it really happens.)

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    If Favorites Fall, Watch These Dark-Horse Candidates for House Speaker

    Two names keep cropping up in conversations with GOP members: Representative Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee and Representative Peter Roskam of Illinois.


    If Ryan continues to say no, and I hope he does, look for smears on both Blackburn and Roskam. Smears from both the left and right. Perhaps an entry on Wikipedia by someone at DHS?

    Evidently Jim Jordon, the founder of the “Freedom Caucus” isn’t interested in the job. I wonder why? I didn’t know that he had started the “Freedom Caucus”.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I have been impressed with Blackburn when I have heard her speak. She seems pretty no-nonsense to me, something sorely needed these days.

      I wonder why Jordan isn’t interested? I do like him – I think he would be good.

      It is interesting that there are so many who don’t want the job. That says something, doesn’t it?

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    As for Columbus, I don’t know how any of those explorers had the courage to set off in those tiny ships. Wouldn’t get me out there in anything smaller than the Queen Mary.

    Got my flag out with the sun this morning. I don’t really care who gets credit, my personal opinion is that the Vikings were here after the native Americans who came over the land bridge.

    But any day to fly my flag is a good day for me.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      ROTFL – no kidding, huh? I mean, really – that kind of courage, bravery, or craziness maybe, to hop into a wooden ship heading out to Who-Knows-Where takes a whole lotta gumption. I like smaller boats, but not to make an ocean crossing, that is for SURE! Yep – put me on a cruise ship instead…

      LOL – I hear you – any day IS a good day to fly Old Glory. And hey – it could just as easily have been Vikings, right?

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Obama pretty much signaled Justice to lay off Hillary

    By William A. Jacobson

    How does he know that national security was not compromised?

    It’s always questionable when a President comments on a pending investigation, precisely because it can been seen as interference.

    I think he sent a loud and clear message to the Justice Department — put this one to bed, it’s all politics.


    I didn’t watch the “60 Minutes” interview because the sight of CBS and 60 Minutes kissing Obama’s ass has become such a farce it isn’t even worth watching for the giggle factor. To call Steve Kroft, and 60 Minutes anything but Obama operatives is dishonest.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I don’t watch it, either, but I have seen the clip. That was more than enough for me. And yeah – Jacobsen is spot on. It does seem that Obama was giving a message to the DOJ especially since he could not POSSIBLY know what the outcome is of an investigation in process. Or rather, he SHOULDN’T know what the conclusion is before the investigation is done.

      UGH. So sick of these people getting away with crap.

      That reminds me – I was commenting to Suzy yesterday abt this whole Bergdahl thing and how it had previously been my impression that the military was definitely outside politics and playing politics. I suggested perhaps I had been wrong to think that. She said no, it DID use to be more outside the realm of politics than it is under this Administration. Of course, with Obama retiring all of those flag officers, I guess it is easier for him to get the outcome he wants. Just like with the DOJ, it seems…

  5. helenk3 Says:

    for 20 years i have thought Farraghan and the KKK were the same. I even told someone at the time of the “million man march” that i would send Farraghan a set of black sheets. Upset her a lot.
    think about it
    KKK–against Jews, Catholics, blacks
    Farraghan against Jews, Catholics, whites
    hate is hate no matter what color in comes in.

    Space is a wonderous place and we have so much to learn about
    it.It will take time, money and the will to do so to explore it.
    Another place we really do not know a lot about is under the seas. Another wonderous place to explore.
    As long as man stays curious, there is no end of where we can go and what we can do

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Indeed, “hate is hate,” and what both Farrakhan and Wright preach is hate, plain and simple. That Wright preaches against Capitalism also is clear in where the Dems are now headed – full blown Socialism.

      Yes, indeed – the oceans, too, contain wonders we have not yet seen. When something is revealed from the deep, it is just astonishing.

    • foxyladi14 Says:

      Amen!!! 😀

  6. helenk3 Says:



  7. helenk3 Says:

    a problem here


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  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    This is a really great article abt Carly Fiorina by someone who worked with her for years (h/t Facebook friend): http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/10/12/critics-of-carly-fiorinas-att-record-are-wrong/

  10. helenk3 Says:


  11. kenoshamarge Says:

  12. helenk3 Says:

    Good Morning


  13. kenoshamarge Says:

    Another one for Helen

  14. helenk3 Says:


    as a person who was lucky enough to be born and raised and live here I say


  15. kenoshamarge Says:

    Because I love you all…

    From Mayo Clinic on Drinking Water & Baby Aspirin

    How many folks do you know who say they don’t want to drink anything before going to bed because they’ll have to get up during the night!!

    Heart Attack and Water:

    I asked my Doctor why people need to urinate so much at night time. Answer from my Cardiac Doctor – Gravity holds water in the lower part of your body when you are upright (legs swell). When you lie down and the lower body (legs and etc) seeks level with the kidneys, it is then that the kidneys remove the water because it is easier. This then ties in with the last statement!

    I knew you need your minimum water to help flush the toxins out of your body, but this was news to me. Correct time to drink water… Very Important. From A Cardiac Specialist! Drinking water at a certain time maximizes its effectiveness on the body:

    2 glasses of water after waking up – helps activate internal organs
    1 glass of water 30 minutes before a meal – helps digestion
    1 glass of water before taking a bath – helps lower blood pressure
    1 glass of water before going to bed – avoids stroke or heart attack

    Water at bed time will also help prevent night time leg cramps. Your leg muscles are seeking hydration when they cramp and wake you up with a Charlie Horse.
    Mayo Clinic Aspirin Dr. Virend Somers, is a Cardiologist from the Mayo Clinic, who is lead author of the report in the July 29, 2008 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology.

    Most heart attacks occur in the day, generally between 6 A.M. and noon. Having one during the night, when the heart should be most at rest, means that something unusual happened. Somers and his colleagues have been working for a decade to show that sleep apnea is to blame.

    If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day, take it at night. The reason: Aspirin has a 24-hour “half-life”; therefore, if most heart attacks happen in the wee hours of the morning, the Aspirin would be strongest in your system.

    Bayer is making crystal aspirin to dissolve instantly on the tongue. They work much faster than the tablets.

    Why keep Aspirin by your bedside? It’s about Heart Attacks –

    There are other symptoms of a heart attack, besides the pain on the left arm. One must also be aware of an intense pain on the chin, as well as nausea and lots of sweating; however, these symptoms may also occur less frequently.

    Note: There may be NO pain in the chest during a heart attack.

    The majority of people (about 60%) who had a heart attack during their sleep did not wake up. However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up from your deep sleep.

    If that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth and swallow them with a bit of water.

    Afterwards: – Call 911. – Phone a neighbor or a family member who lives very close by. Say “heart attack!”

    Say that you have taken 2 Aspirins. – Take a seat on a chair or sofa near the front door, and wait for their arrival and …DO NOT LIE DOWN!

    A Cardiologist has stated that if each person after receiving this e-mail, sends it to friends and family, probably one or more lives could be saved!

    Do forward this message!
    “Life is a one time gift!”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thank you, Marge. Love you, too!

      I do drink a lot of water right before bed. First, because I am taking a med that requires a lot of water, but second, because I had seen a report about the benefits of drinking water before bed for the heart. Thanks for laying this all out. It is valuable information, indeed.

      Bless your heart! 😀

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I try not to drink too much of anything before bed since I make multiple trips now. But I do keep a glass at bedside. Will not drink more and if more trips ensue, well life is all too often a tradeoff and this seems a smart one to me.

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