Not So “Preposterous” After All *Open Thread*


House Speaker Paul Ryan made a statement on the Sunday talk shows about President Obama and Immigration that raised a lot of eyebrows, and the ire of the White House. In short, Speaker Ryan made this claim:

Well, now I actually agree with Speaker Ryan. Obama HAS proven himself to be “untrustworthy” on Immigration (and a host of other issues). Obama’s unlawful Executive Actions granting de facto Amnesty to illegal aliens has been a source of great consternation for many across this country. Never mind the Exexcutive Order that essentially invited illegal alien children (which also means teenagers, which means some gang members) to come on in! The anger and frustration as a result has only increased after the death of Kate Steinle and the revelation of how many American citizens have been killed by illegal aliens who have committed crimes, but are still in the country.

So, yeah – I think Speaker Ryan is spot on. But the White House claimed his comment was “preposterous,” according to ABC News:

[…] White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Ryan’s recent comments on an immigration overhaul are “preposterous” and disappointing.

The Wisconsin Republican said Sunday that he’s ruled out passing comprehensive immigration legislation while President Barack Obama is in office. He said Obama cannot be trusted on the issue because he went around Congress to take executive actions shielding from deportation millions of people living in the country illegally. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Speaker Ryan’s remarks were also “disappointing.” Yeah, okay. Because there was no basis in fact one would be lead to believe. Uh huh.

Perhaps what Josh Earnest MEANT to say was that Speaker Ryan was on to something since Obama was planning another assault on the laws of this nation in general, and an injunction in particular. Seems that a little memo from the DHS was leaked, and what it says proves EXACTLY why Speaker Ryan says Obama is “untrustworthy” on Immigration. Because he IS untrustworthy. From The Hill (h/t

A newly leaked internal DHS memorandum produced for an off-the-record agency conclave reveals that the Obama administration is actively planning to circumvent a federal court injunction that suspended part of last November’s deferral-based amnesty initiative. The document, apparently prepared as follow-up from a DHS “Regulations Retreat” last summer, appears sure to re-ignite concerns in Congress as well as federal judges in the Fifth Circuit. The Administration has already been criticized from the bench for handing out work permits to hundreds of thousands of deferred action beneficiaries, in direct violation of a district court’s order. With the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals deciding any day now whether to deny the Administration’s request to reverse that injunction, this public leak has come at a critical juncture for U.S. enforcement policy.

Last June, four months after Texas federal judge Andrew Hanen’s order to freeze President’s DAPA and Expanded DACA programs—disclosure: the Immigration Reform Law Institute has filed briefs in these cases—DHS’s immigration policy makers apparently held a “Regulations Retreat” to discuss “different options” for “open market Employment Authorization Document (EAD) regulatory changes.” EAD is the statutory term for work permits. From a memo recording these discussions, we now know that the Obama DHS has, rather than pausing to allow the courts to assess the constitutionality of its enforcement nullification initiatives, been gearing up to roll out one or more of four plans drawn up at the meeting, each one designed to provide EADs to millions of nonimmigrants, including those lawfully present and visa overstayers, crippling the actual employment-based visa system on the federal statute-book.

The internal memo reveals four options of varying expansiveness, with option 1 providing EADs to “all individuals living in the United States”, including illegal aliens, visa-overstayers, and H-1B guest-workers, while option 4 provides EADs only to those on certain unexpired non-immigrant visas. Giving EADs to any of the covered individuals, however, is in direct violation of Congress’s Immigration & Nationality Act and works to dramatically subvert our carefully wrought visa system.

Gee, Josh – just how “preposterous” is Ryan’s claim in light of THIS information?? Yeah, bunch of liars. Earnest surely knew damn well that the White House had every intention of violating the court order to freeze DAPA/DACA. The blatant lawlessness of this Administration is just off the CHARTS, especially when it comes to illegal aliens and allowing them rights and privileges that should only belong to citizens and those here legally. The Hill piece concludes:

[…] Bottom line: The memo foreshadows more tactical offensives in a giant administrative amnesty for all 12 million illegal aliens who’ve broken our immigration laws (and many other laws) that will emerge before the next inaugural in January 2016. According to the authors, one negative factor for granting EADs to illegal aliens, visa-overstayers, etc., is that they’ll still “face difficulties in pursuing permanent residence due to ineligibility or being subject to unlawful presence inadmissibility for which a waiver is required.” This is in reference to the reality that an EAD isn’t a green card and that eventually the EAD-beneficiaries are supposed to apply to ‘adjust their status,’ which cannot be done without showing evidence of lawful status. But this might change, they write. The DHS “macro-level policy goal”, we’re told, is to assist individuals to stay “until they are ready and able to become immigrants.” This would seem to say that DHS, the largest federal law enforcement agency in the nation, is banking on awarding those who’ve broken our laws and violated our national sovereignty.

Will the 26 plaintiff states that have challenged the President’s DAPA program bring this memo to the Fifth Circuit’s attention, before they issue their closely-awaited decision? If this document is indeed the cutting edge of Obama’s strategy for DHS to circumvent Judge Hanen’s injunction order, it would confirm the Administration’s bad faith and contempt both for the court and the law. (Click here to read the rest.)

No kidding. And it does nothing but confirm how absolutely spot on were Speaker Ryan’s comments about Obama’s trustworthiness on the issue of illegal immigration. He is a lying liar who lies about this (and other issues) constantly. I am just glad Speaker Ryan called him out on it.

Perhaps this new Speaker will be the shift this nation needs to truly, FINALLY, address this issue of Amnesty and Illegal Immigration head on.

Hey, I can hope, can’t I?

This is an Open Thread. What’s on your minds today?


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28 Responses to “Not So “Preposterous” After All *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I think Ryan will disappoint many because he is one of those darn pragmatic Midwesterners. He can wheel and deal with the best of them, having spent most of his adult life in politics, but he knows when to take what you can get instead of getting nothing.

    Ryan showed that he knows what he’s letting himself in for, and it won’t be pretty, when he said in his interviews that he expects the “honeymoon” period for him to last about 35 minutes.

    I still wish he had stayed in Ways and Means but wish him well as Speaker. He as done what he thought was right rather than what was best for himself and for what he wanted. Seldom, if ever, are Speakers “loved” while in office. It’s usually after they’ve retired or died that they are appreciated.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I think Ways and Means will be lesser for not having Ryan there any more, too, but now that he is Speaker, I hope he will be the straight shooting Midwesterner he can be. Well, as much as politicians can be, that is. I am hoping those Midwestern roots run deeply enough that he will be strong in the face of Democratic opposition.

      Great cartoon!

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Oh and just for the record, I think that most everything that spews from Josh Ernest’s mouth is “preposterous”.

  3. foxyladi14 Says:

    I predict that he will give Obama every thing he wants. 😡

  4. foxyladi14 Says:

    And I really hope I am wrong. 🙂

  5. helenk3 Says:

    does anyone ever think that backtrack would like to replace American citizens with islamists and illegal immigrants? On the southern border I have wonder does he get money from the cartels? he makes their lives a lot easier in crossing the borders now.
    just wondering

    • helenk3 Says:

      think about what is happening in Germany. the people there are ready to throw Merkel in the nearest river

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Huh – I hadn’t thought of that, Helen. Considering the whole “Fast and Furious” thing, though, it is certainly possible…

  6. helenk3 Says:

    PC has peaked

  7. helenk3 Says:

    this makes me angry.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Apparently these jackalopes don’t realize that it is BECAUSE of the Constitution that they can say such idiotic things…

  8. helenk3 Says:

    did you ever think that it would be Russia standing up for Christians and in America they now get punished for saying a prayer?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      No, not in a million years did I think our country would turn its back on Christians the way it is now. It is beyond disturbing…

  9. helenk3 Says:

    On Monday backtrack made it easier for felons to get government jobs

  10. helenk3 Says:

    wonder if she would take a meeting with the mothers of the cops killed in the line of duty?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Are you kidding me with this?? How telling, and how offensive. I feel for these families in losing loved ones, but each one of these men were engaged in behavior that DIRECTLY led to their demise. This glorification of criminals in this culture now is astonishing. Like those idiots in San Francisco who want people to stop calling thieves, “criminals” WOW.

  11. helenk3 Says:

    good morning

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