Post Debate Open Thread


I have a Veterans Day post coming up later this morning, but I did want to say a few things about the main debate last night.

First of all, I dislike Gov. Kasich even more now than I did before. WOW, what a condescending, arrogant man he is. And as many of the commentators noted afterward, he was at the wrong debate. No kidding.

Second of all, Donald Trump was again Donald Trump. At one point, he tried to shame Carly Fiorina into not talking by claiming she interrupted everyone. That would have been KASICH who was constantly interrupting, but Fiorina had just gotten in a good comment, and Trump wanted to silence her. It was typical Trump – sexist that he is, because he sure didn’t tell Kasich to stop interrupting.

And since I am speaking about Trump, he made a comment about how he and Putin were “stablemates” for a “60 Minutes” appearance. Except not so much. In fact, they were not in the same studio, country, or even CONTINENT, as this Buzzfeed article highlights (from a commenter at a DC article):

[…] Trump and Putin appeared in separate, taped pieces for 60 Minutes in an episode that aired on Sept. 27. Putin was interviewed in Russia, Trump was interviewed in New York. […] (Click here to read the rest, including some good Tweets.)

Meanwhile, Fiorina is being hammered for saying she didn’t meet Putin in a Green Room after saying to Jimmy Fallon she met him in a “sort of green room.” Well, she and Putin were giving speeches at the same event, not appearing on a tv show, and they spoke for about 45 minutes with each other. So she DID meet him face-to-face, at an event that was not as superficial as a tv news/entertainment show, but you sure wouldn’t know it from the tone of this Daily Caller article:

[…] During an appearance on the “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon” in September, Fiorina explained that she met Putin in “Beijing, we were in sort of a green room setting actually.”

“The two of us were giving a speech, each of us were giving a speech at a major economic conference called APAC,” he (sic) said. “And so the two of us were sitting sort of in a chair like this, about this close for 45 minutes before his speech and before mine. I would describe him as a formidable adversary. He actually can be quite funny and charming but he is a KGB guy, we should never forget this.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

That is a big difference from sitting in a room with snacks, kicking back, and relaxing before an appearance. And it is a lot closer to the truth than Trump’s claim, which was nothing but fabrication. Appearing on the same show in segments taped days apart in different continents does NOT rise to the level of “stablemates.”

Third, Sen. Rand Paul irritates me. He just does.

Finally, the winners, in my opinion, were Senators Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, and Carly Fiorina did well for herself. Chris Stirewalt said on Megyn Kelly’s show last night that he thought Dr. Ben Carson was the winner. I disagree with his assessment. Dr. Carson was good, but he didn’t have that much time, nor were his answers as comprehensive as Rubio’s and Cruz’s were. (Niall Stanage at The Hill also thinks Cruz and Rubio had strong performances.)

The losers were most definitely Gov. John Kasich and Gov. Jeb Bush. Howard Kurtz thought Bush did a much better job. I thought he seemed tentative and tongue-tied a good bit. I keep waiting for him to come out and be the articulate, impassioned man portrayed on his commercials, but once again, that has not happened.

I did not watch the under-card debate, but I understand Gov. Chris Christie had a good night.

That is it for me. There is a Veterans Day Post coming up at 10:00 this morning. Feel free to weigh in on the Debates, if you watched them, or whatever else you wish. This is an Open Thread.


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2 Responses to “Post Debate Open Thread”

  1. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I mentioned above about Trump’s comment claiming Fiorina interrupted everyone. I failed to mention he got BOOED for that. From The Hill:

    […] “Why does she keep interrupting everybody?” Trump asked after Fiorina cut in over Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who was warning against a no-fly zone over Iraq.

    The crowd’s brief laughter turned into a chorus of boos, as Paul asked whether he could finish his response.

    Trump has been criticized in the past for comments directed at women, particularly after a series of comments he made about Fox News host Megyn Kelly after the first GOP debate in August. More recently, he called Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz a “terrible person.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

  2. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Rich Lowry had a great column abt the whole Mizzou thing:

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