She/He/They Did WHAT? *Open Thread*


As the State Department trickle of Clinton emails continues, we are learning more and more about Sec. Clinton. I guess that was the point of her trying to wipe her server, since some of the things we are learning are disconcerting, and some may be downright illegal.

I am not talking about one of the biggest issues – classified emails on an unsecured server. That is bad on a host of levels, and no telling how much risk doing so has caused those who operate across the world.

Rather, I am talking about the attitude evidenced by Sec. Clinton in some of her emails. One in particular stands out. From the Daily Caller:

Hillary Clinton cheered the transfer of convicted murderer Omar Khadr from Guantanamo Bay to a Canadian prison, emails released on Monday show.

“Thank you for all you did to get this resolved,” then-Sec. of State Clinton wrote to State Department legal adviser Harold Koh in a Sept. 29, 2012 email, which was spotted by Vice News’ Jason Leopold, the reporter who filed the lawsuit that forced the State Department to release Clinton’s emails.

Koh had worked with the Canadian government to secure Khadr’s transfer. He had been at the Cuban facility since 2002 when he was detained in Afghanistan during a firefight with American soldiers. Then a 15-year-old child soldier, Khadr was accused of throwing a grenade that killed Sgt. First Class Christopher Speer, a member of a U.S. Army Special Forces Unit. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Wow. Sec. Clinton was happy that a TERRORIST who killed one of our Special Forces soldiers was essentially given a break.

No doubt that this attitude, along with the manner in which Clinton treated Amb. Stevens while he was alive, and his memory after he was assassinated by terrorists, is why State is having some trouble with diplomats. From The Hill:

The political fallout from the 2012 terrorist attacks on a U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya, has had a chilling effect on the Foreign Service that has left U.S. diplomats wary of treading into areas with questionable security. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Gee, you think?!

And this woman wants to be Commander-in-Chief. Isn’t THAT a disconcerting thought?

To go along with that, we have the former top Spy, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, with this to say about our CURRENT Commander-in-Chief, Barack Obama, when it comes to ISIS. From The Hill:

President Obama ignored early warnings about the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in 2011 and 2012 because it did not fit his reelection “narrative,” according to a former top intelligence leader.

“I think that they did not meet a narrative the White House needed. And I’ll be very candid with you, they just didn’t,” retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said Tuesday on CNN.

“I think the narrative was that al Qaeda was on the run, and [Osama] bin Laden was dead,” he added. “’They’re dead and … we’ve beaten them.'”

The comments are likely to reinforce critics’ allegations that the Obama administration is continually underestimating ISIS, even as its strength seems to grow. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Well yes, they ARE “likely to reinforce critics’ allegations,” and rightly so, especially with the increasing number of intelligence analysts flat out saying the Administration manipulated their reports on ISIS to fit a narrative, not the reality on the ground.

Lt. Gen. Flynn touched on this claim, among other things, in this CNN interview as linked in The Hill:

Lt.G. Flynn nailed it – this comes from the President. There are few other ways to look at it, and what it says is disturbing indeed.

Also disturbing is what the IRS is doing now – you guessed it – to Tea Party-affiliated groups. Since the IRS Investigation that wasn’t an investigation was closed, despite not interviewing a bunch of people involved and despite the IRS admitting – ADMITTING – it targeted Tea Party/Conservative groups, nothing much happened to any of the parties involved. Well. except for Lois Lerner getting off scott-free with her retirement benefits firmly in place.

And, with the IRS now emboldened to continue its deplorable practices of targeting groups who disagree politically with Democrats, it has proposed a particularly problematic rule. From the Daily Signal:

Tea Party Patriots is launching an email and social media campaign—using #IRSPowerGrab—today, encouraging supporters and conservative leaders nationwide to push back against a rule proposed by the Internal Revenue Service that would give nonprofits the option to collect the Social Security numbers of donors who contribute $250 or more to an organization.

“They don’t need to be collecting Social Security numbers. Donations to nonprofits are allowed to be kept confidential,” Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder of Tea Party Patriots, told The Daily Signal. “Having gone through the [IRS] targeting [of conservative groups] because our name is Tea Party Patriots, I’m very sensitive to anything that expands the IRS’ reach into nonprofits and who their donors are.”


“We’ve seen that the IRS has successfully targeted organizations, and employees of the IRS have abused the power of the agency against people they perceive as political opponents,” Martin said. “Having more information about who supports those organizations would give them the potential to continue the abuse of power and hurt the individuals, not just the groups. That’s the danger of it.”

Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow at The Heritage Foundation, joined Martin in opposing the proposed rule. In an interview with The Daily Signal, von Spakovsky cited a lawsuit the National Organization for Marriage filed against the IRS alleging that an official with the tax agency leaked a copy of confidential tax information listing the group’s donors. The IRS paid the National Organization for Marriage $50,000 to settle the suit. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

No kidding there is no reason to trust the IRS with Social Security numbers of donors since they already admitted they can’t be trusted with it.

Huh – come to think of it, considering how Clinton, Obama, and the IRS have conducted themselves over the past 5 years or so, I think it reinforces what many of us already knew – they cannot be trusted.

That’s what I think anyway. How about you? This is an Open Thread.


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17 Responses to “She/He/They Did WHAT? *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    When one of the most, if the most, powerful departments in the federal government acts like an arm of one political party of another this is not democracy. And it is not as Obama and Clinton are so fond of saying “who we are”.

    If Democrats, from the Oval Office on down the your neighbor that votes Democrat think this is the way for the government to behave then we are truly lost. Because that’s proof that we have a corrupt government because we have a corrupt population. We already know we have a corrupt media and that makes it difficult for the public to “know” about the corruption if they aren’t willing to search it out.

    A large majority of Democrats say they believe Hillary Clinton is corrupt and dishonest. What does it say about them if they are willing to vote for her?

    I’m tired of all the blame for everything that goes wrong being put on politicians. And Heaven knows I’ve blamed them plenty. But if we the people accept their corruption then we are no better.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Amen to that, Marge – we have to take responsibility for the people we put into office. And yes, if Democrats are willing to cast their vote for Clinton after all the crap she has done, all the lies, the duplicities, the “being above the law” mentality she evidences at every turn, then they deserve it,

      But like their votes for Obama, we do not.

      So yes – we most definitely bear some responsibility for the people in office, which is why it is more and more important to nominate a candidate who can beat her, and improve the nation…

    • foxyladi14 Says:

      Exactly Marge. :facepalm:

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    As Hillary Runs, Marine Will Be Ousted for Emailing Classified Documents

    A Marine and U.S. Naval Academy graduate who self-reported that he improperly stored classified documents will be separated from the Marine Corps Reserve following a decision by Assistant Navy Secretary Juan Garcia, the Washington Post reported Monday.

    Maj. Jason Brezler’s emails warned officials about the corruption, including homosexual pedophilia, of an Afghan police chief named Anwar Jan, whose servant later killed three Marines and wounded a fourth.

    The more I see of Ted Cruz the better I like him. The more I see and hear of Hillary Clinton the less I can believe that I ever thought she was worth my vote. She is contemptible as are all who excuse her contemptible, dishonest behavior.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Can you believe this?! It is just staggering that someone like Maj. Brezler would be separated from service for doing the RIGHT thing, and someone who has most definitely done the WRONG thing is abt to be the Dem. nominee!! How the hell does THAT work?!

      I could cast my vote for Ted Cruz with a clear conscience. He is a Constitutionalist, smart as hell, and seems to have integrity. That is no small thing these days…

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

  4. helenk3 Says:

    up to the minute news of the mass shooting in San Bernardino Ca

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Terrible what is going on. I hope the media will change its stripes and actually wait for some facts for a change…

      Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

  5. helenk3 Says:


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, wouldn’t that be fantastic?? That would be the best Christmas present ever! 🙂

      Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

  6. helenk3 Says:

    Kirkland Air Force Base under lock down shooting report

  7. helenk3 Says:

    Loma Linda Hospital being evacuated. some of the victims were taken there

  8. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Here is the latest on this terrible tragedy:

  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    San Bernardino Police Identify Two Suspects as Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik

    Those sure sound like right-wingers to me. If not right-wingers must be some poor Muslims who were forced to be murdering thugs because someone said something they didn’t like.

    Couldn’t possibly be because they were scumbags who love to kill. They will kill no more. And much as I dislike being happy that someone is dead I am happy that the citizens of San Bernardino will be spared the cost of a trial for the two cockroaches who perpetrated this tragedy.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks for this link, Marge. And no kidding abt saving the good people of San Bernardino the time, expense, and pain of a trial for these two terrorists.

      Thank heavens the police were doing a training so close by and were able to get there so quickly. Too late for those killed and critically injured, but it likely could have been worse without their quick action…

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