The Fallacious Equivalence Of The Left *Open Thread* UPDATE!!

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UPDATE: As it turns out, the woman terrorist had pledged allegiance to ISIS. Can’t get much clearer than that since the pipe bombs and connections with known terrorists didn’t already highlight that. Say it, Obama – this was RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

We all knew that President Obama was going to claim “workplace violence” after the radical Islamist terror attack in San Bernardino. We all knew he was going to jump on the “gun control” bandwagon despite the bodies not even being cold yet, along with all other Democrats and Liberals. It was as predictable as the Sun rising in the East, and setting in the West. Even in the face of MASSIVE evidence that this was a terrorist attack, the Commander-in-Chief continues to equivocate about the motives of these terrorists. Typical. And dangerous.

But now the Left has taken up a broader meme to push their tone-deaf, anti-Second Amendment diatribe. That would be equating the mentally unstable, deranged killers behind Sandy Hook, Tucson, Aurora, and the other Colorado shooting recently. Oh – and to connect all of them, as well as radical Islamist jihadists, to the NRA head as a terrorist, too. Here is the most recent NY Daily News headline courtesy of HuffPo (h/t Facebook friend):

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Wow. They have clearly gone off the rails at the NY Daily “News,” a descriptor that no longer fits what they are. “Propagandist” suits them better.

They aren’t the only ones making this false equivalence, though. I had the displeasure of watching Geraldo Rivera arguing against Judge Jeanine Pirro this morning making this same claim in the pursuit of restricting gun ownership in this country. What Rivera, the NY Daily News, et, al, fail to mention is that California has the STRICTEST gun control laws in the country. But TERRORISTS DO NOT CARE about gun laws. I mean, really. They don’t care! Just like gangbangers don’t care, crazy people don’t care, and criminals don’t care. THEY are not going to be hindered by stricter and stricter gun laws. Innocent people will be hindered by those laws because they will obey them.

But the bigger issue is this, in my opinion: the left is insisting that those who are mentally deranged – and there is evidence in each of the other cases to support that those men were all mentally unstable – are the same as an entire religious ideology held by millions of people. There is simply no comparison there. None at all. Not only does it minimize the Islamic terrorism in this country and around the globe, it provides some cover for it by equating it to a few individuals acting alone out of their insanity.

That said, I am sure many of us could make the case that radical Islamism is a bit nuts. I mean, really – the whole blowing oneself up, expecting the virgins, and pleasing Allah by killing people is not normal to the vast majority of us. But jihad is an accepted component of Islam, and to ignore that, is just willful blindness. Even worse is it to ignore that terrorism is a practice in which many Muslims participate. To try and diminish how extensive, expansive, and embedded that is by watering down the term, “terrorist,” is just idiocy, not to mention dangerous as hell.

It really begs the question why the NY Daily News, attacker of other religions and law-abiding citizens as it has in its past two days of cover choices, digs in its heels when it comes to addressing the root of the attacks like we just saw here and in Paris: radical Islamism. Are they, like the neighbor in San Bernardino, afraid of offending Muslims? If so, why are they less afraid of offending the vast majority of Americans than they are people who have waged the greatest attack on this country since Pearl Harbor? What could possibly be their end game with that kind of mindset? It truly boggles the mind, both their complete lack of logical abilities, and why they are working so hard to disparage Americans in general.

One last thing to go along with all of the false claims by the Left is the one about vetting people who want to come into the USA. We already know about the disastrous results of the “vetting” done by the FBI of the Tsarnaev Brothers, but just how is it that the woman from Pakistan was able to come into, and STAY, in this country? That is a question being asked by US Senators Sessions and Cruz. From BizPacReview:

[…] Although San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook was a U.S.-born citizen, CBS News reported that his Saudi-born wife, Tashfeen Malik, was vetted by Department of Homeland Security counterterrorism screening.

“In our struggle against terrorism, we are dealing with an enemy that has shown it is not only capable of bypassing U.S. screening, but of recruiting and radicalizing Muslim migrants after their entry to the United States,” the senators said in their letter.

“The recruitment of terrorists in the U.S. is not limited to adult migrants, but to their young children and to their U.S.-born children, which is why family immigration history is necessary to understand the nature of the threat.”

The senators’ letter was delivered to Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, Secretary of State John Kerry, and Attorney General Loretta Lynch.

“We are dealing with an enemy that has shown it is not only capable of bypassing U.S. screening, but of recruiting and radicalizing Muslim migrants after their entry to the United States,” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

No kidding. Just how they are vetting people seems a bit problematic considering that even when they do, some people are getting in, or staying in, who most definitely should NOT be here.

Perhaps this is the result of the insidiousness of political correctness in our culture now. It has infiltrated our intelligence and our military to the point that terrorists like Major Nidal Hasan, with ALL of the wildly waving red flags was able to keep his position, failures by both the FBI who was investigating him, and other officers who were afraid to speak up about how radical he was.

If the Left has their way, that will be free speech and the Second Amendment. That cannot stand, not if we are to remain free.

That’s what I think anyway. How about you? This is an Open Thread.

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40 Responses to “The Fallacious Equivalence Of The Left *Open Thread* UPDATE!!”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I keep saying “how stupid can they get”. I now realize that I should stop that because the left and their media lap dogs seem to be taking that as a challenge. Right along with how low will they go.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      My immediate reaction was to laugh – they DO seem to be taking it as a challenge. But then the sober nature of what they are doing started sinking in. Needless to say, the laughter stopped…

      Btw, WHAT an ending to the game last night, huh?? 😀

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I don’t like exciting endings when it’s the Packers. I like winning by at least 20 points to keep heart out of throat. A Hail Mary to win? Only in games I don’t care about.

        One Wisconsin paper had the headline ” Packers Do The Unthinkable – they win!”

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Seriously? Aren’t they 8-4?? Dang – tough crowd! 🙂

          • kenoshamarge Says:

            After the start they had the crowd expected great things. And yes we love our Pack but it’s tough love Not to mention that losing to the Bears, as they did last week, is considered blasphemy.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    strong> San Bernardino: Another Jihad Attack, Another Cover-Up

    Mainstream media reporters don’t even need to show up for work. They can file their stories beforehand.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/261017/san-bernardino-another-jihad-attack-another-cover-robert-spencer

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Is this in some way like Jimmy Carter’s malaise? And is Jimmy Carter happy to no longer be regarded by most of America as the worst President in modern history?

  4. mcnorman Says:

    To say that his spouse influenced him is utter nonsense. We ALL have freewill. He went looking for this, and no he was not mentally ill. He turned into a demon and so did his spouse. The left is really getting on my last nerve. When will the poser in the WH say it? This is terrorism and his ridiculous pc speak cannot change what is abundantly clear to the nation.

    • mcnorman Says:

      I am so disgusted with what the left media is putting out right now. Just like Kenoshamarge said, they will stop at nothing. They are so worried about protecting teh won’s Syrian refugee plan, the motive (?), DOJ Lynch is worried more about hate speech, what is wrong with these people? Is the carnage and obvious motive not enough for them? Do they truly believe that all of America is stupid enough to swallow what the kinder daycare college crow does?

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I would add that Lynch and the Left are worried abt the hate speech of OTHERS, not that of the Left’s. Just look at some of the things they have said recently. As Fiorina pointed out yesterday morning, Obama – the freakin’ PRESIDENT – blamed Republicans for ISIS recruitment. WTH?! But THEIR hate speech is just fine and dandy. They can attack police officers, Republicans, and everyone who doesn’t agree with them with the vilest of language and that is okay. Grrrr.

      • foxyladi14 Says:

        Exactly mcnorman,
        Well said. 🙂

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is getting on my nerves too, mcnorman. You said it – we all have free will, and the man made his own bed.

      Along those lines is the victim blaming of the Christmas party participants. Apparently, that just sent this man over the edge according to CNN as Gellar wrote (h/t Facebook friend): http://pamelageller.com/2015/12/cnn-san-bernardino-office-holiday-party-may-have-been-offensive-to-muslim-gunman.html/

      No doubt, that explains the numerous pipe bombs, ammunition, detonators, pledges of allegiance to ISIS…Ahem.

      Oh, and one thing is something that is not being mentioned much (at all?) is that this attack took place against CHRISTIANS at a CHRISTMAS party. By radical Islamic terrorists. But it is the Christians’ fault? Sure…

      • mcnorman Says:

        Sent him over the edge? The group that gave the demons their baby shower. It’s unbelievable.

        Yes, these were Christians murdered by Islamic terrorists and it was all there fault. Why doesn’t the left use this as a header and see how many readers think it is true?

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I know, right?? But that is what passes for “logic” these days with the Lefty crowd, it seems.

          I love the idea of the headline, though – AHAHAHA.

          • mcnorman Says:

            Just a note…seems that one of the Paris creeps recruited the other demonseed at a Hungarian refugee camp. Does it sound normal to you to open the doors to people that you cannot possibly vet?

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            Um, is that a trick question? 🙂

            Yeah – that is precisely the problem with this insistence on bringing in people there is no WAY to vet properly…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

  5. foxyladi14 Says:

    Good post Amy. 😀

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    Planned Parenthood and Those Villainous Christians

    By Jonah Goldberg

    Consider that modern-day Council of Nicea, ABC’s “The View.” Joy Behar recently insisted concern over Muslim refugees was overblown. After all, Oklahoma City bomber “Timothy McVeigh was a Christian,” Behar said. “Just sayin’.”

    Whoopi Goldberg (no relation) concurred. “There have been a lot of monster Christians,” she said. “Hitler was a Christian.”

    Just for the record, Hitler detested Christianity, and McVeigh was an avowed agnostic who never cited Jesus as the inspiration for his crimes.

    Personally, I’m opposed to all such forms of guilt by association, but it seems obvious to me that contemporary Christianity is not struggling with a Crusades problem, while Islam is certainly struggling with a jihad problem.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/2015/12/03/planned-parenthood-and-those-villainous-christians-n2088149/page/full

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Amen, Jonah – so glad he is setting the record straight. Those kinds of false statements from people like Goldberg and Behar are SO typical, and SO ignorant.

      Ugh.

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

    Christie and Cruz Should Thank Trump and Carson for Recent Gains

    When Trump appears to mock a journalist’s disability, or questions the heroism of POWs, or calls Mexican immigrants rapists, or slams a woman candidate for her looks, or says a protester maybe “should have been roughed up,” suddenly Christie’s infamous “sit down and shut up” to a heckler seems downright genteel.

    Christie can pitch the same straight-talking aversion to political correctness that has endeared Trump to many, but whereas Trump wields his big mouth indiscriminately, Christie’s actually disciplined by default. If you like Trump’s attitude but can’t envision him as commander-in-chief, Christie’s a much easier image to conjure.

    While Cruz got some laughs and headlines after recently suggesting the GOP isn’t against contraception — “Last I checked, we don’t have a rubber shortage in America,” he said in Iowa — this feels palpably substantive compared to Carson’s suggestion that Muslim’s shouldn’t be president, the Egyptian pyramids were ancient granaries and going to prison can make you gay. And Cruz has transplanted Carson in the most recent polls in Iowa, neck-in-neck with Trump.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/secupp/2015/12/03/christie-and-cruz-should-thank-trump-and-carson-for-recent-gains-n2088696/page/full

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Barbara Boxer After California Attack: ‘Sensible Gun Laws Work. We’ve Proven It in California.’

    Surreal. Boxer’s defenders would say that gun violence in California has fallen substantially since the state implemented a series of restrictions decades ago (none of which stopped the apparent jihadist massacre this week).

    But gun crime is down sharply across the board in the United States, including in states and jurisdictions with very permissive gun laws. Indeed, despite terrible incidents and prominent headlines, gun homicides have been cut in half over the last 20 years. And gun crime has is down overall since the 2004 expiration of the federal ban on “assault weapons,” a state-level version which failed to prevent this week’s calculated horror. In any case, yesterday’s tone-deaf gem will be added to the pantheon of awful that is the career of Senator Ma’am. I’ll leave you with my debate over gun control on Fox News yesterday afternoon (courtesy of Right Sightings):

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/12/04/barbara-boxer-sensible-gun-laws-work-weve-proven-it-in-california-n2088793

    I really loved the line: ” pantheon of awful that is the career of Senator Ma’am “, beautifully nasty and wonderfully true.

  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Gee, ya don’t say: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/262136-fbi-investigating-california-shooting-as-act-of-terrorism

    • mcnorman Says:

      Finally, a half pronouncement of what this is. What happened to leading from the front?

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      If the FBI is taking the lead then they are convinced it is terrorism. Otherwise local law enforcement would be in charge.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Indeed. It seems, despite the victim-blaming attempts by the family’s attorneys, the FBI is finding things that leads them to believe this is terrorism, including the woman’s pledge of allegiance to ISIS.

        If you didn’t see the attorneys at their press conference, it was HORRIBLE. It was all abt how people shouldn’t be mean to Muslims, it was probably just work place violence, blah, blah, blah, even AFTER the FBI had declared it terrorism. Kimberly Guilfoyle said she hoped the family wasn’t paying them…

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Jonah Goldberg has an OUTSTANDING rant about the NY Times breaking with 95 yrs of tradition to print an editorial abt – no, not terrorism- GUN CONTROL: http://www.nationalreview.com/NYT-Epic-Gun-Fail

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      It is almost sad how far on the wrong side of this issue the left has gone. The public isn’t with them which is evidenced by the fact that every time there is one of these mass shootings the sale of guns goes up. Then there is the fact that California has the most stringent gun laws in the nation and the last I knew San Bernardino is still in California.

      I have no doubt that Obama will try to do something with “Executive Action” that will only satisfy this foolish White House and the LSM.

      The 2nd Amendment isn’t going away and Americans will still arm themselves for protection from terrorists and their own government. The NYT hasn’t been a credible source of “news” for some time. This editorial only makes that credibility shrink further. Do these cretins only listen to the little voices in their own heads?

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    And there is this from Terrorist-affiliated CAIR (WHY are these people given any air time whatsoever EVER?!?!?!): http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/12/05/cair-director-america-holds-blame-for-terrorism-since-we-made-them-extremists-281115

    He can bite me so hard – wow, what a jackass.

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