Whistleblowers Penalized, Terrorism Edition *Open Thread*


I often say, “Truth Will Out,” a maxim the Obama Administration would do well to heed. Honesty really IS the best policy because when the truth DOES come out, it does not look good at all for the Powers-That-Be.

A case in point is this latest revelation regarding a former DHS employee, one of the original members of this agency, who was tasked with following a particular Islamist group. The Federalist has the story:

Customs and Border Patrol analyst Phil Haney tracked members of the Islamist Deobandi movement with which Sayed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, were affiliated. But the Department of Homeland Security deleted the records, then disciplined and retaliated against him when he blew the whistle, he says.

Haney said he worked in Passenger Analysis Units at the Department of Homeland Security in Atlanta and at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s National Targeting Center, where he performed research into people and groups that might be linked to terrorism. He identified members of al-Huda and Tablighi Jamaat, subgroups of the Deobandi Movement, a century-old fundamentalist Islamic group originating in Pakistan, as they traveled into and out of the United States. An association with Tablighi Jamaat has been documented by the French in an estimated 80% of terrorism cases. Dar Al Uloom Mosque, frequented by Sayed Farook, is linked with the Deobandi Movement. Tashfeen Malik studied with Al-Huda in Pakistan.

Haney was given an agency award for his work identifying potential terrorists and he was asked to become part of the National Targeting Center, which works to connect the dots between radical figures and groups, he said. After more than six months tracking the Deobandi movement, Homeland Security halted the investigation at the urging of the State Department’s Office of Civil Rights, Haney said. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Here is Haney from Megyn Kelly’s program Thursday night expanding further on what happened to him, and how his work may well have prevented the San Bernardino terrorist attack:

Powerful stuff, that. For the State Department to be more concerned, as Haney said in The Federalist piece, about Islamist groups than the security of Americans is disturbing beyond belief.

And while the State Department might claim there are “holes” in Haney’s story, without any evidence to the contrary, I might add, his claim rings true to me anyway. That is especially when you consider what the White House tried to do post-San Bernardino terror attack. From BizPacReview:

The FBI has taken heat for failing to immediately classify the San Bernardino shootings as terrorism, but a new report shows that FBI reluctance could have been due to external pressure from the White House.

A source told Jack Murphy of SOFREP that the FBI instantly believed the shooting, which left 14 dead, to be a clear act of terrorism. The White House, however, didn’t feel the same way and quickly moved in to squash the terror classification.

This source added that as soon as the shooting took place, Obama convened a meeting with the National Security Council and the heads of other federal enforcement agencies to discuss a public relations strategy.

Part of the reason for trying to avoid the designation of the shootings as terrorism is because it threatens to upset the Obama administration’s strategy in Syria. A case of Islamic terrorism in the U.S. would put additional pressure on the administration to play a much more active role in the conflict.

But in this case, because the preponderance evidence so pointed to terrorism, the FBI’s hand was forced, and the agency declared the existence of a terrorism investigation, going against top-down priorities from the White House. Syed Rizwan Farook, the shooter, had contact with ISIS and other groups. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Uh, yeah. That is how they roll. The White House is pushing the very agencies tasked with protecting us to ignore the very people and actions for which they are supposed to be looking. There is something terribly, terribly wrong about all of that.

And speaking of “terribly wrong,” that would be Sec. Clinton’s claim this past Sunday, largely ignored by the media, as American Thinker points out, that the families of the Benghazi terror victims are liars. Oh, yes she did:

Holy smokes. So, she lied when she told them that the videomaker was the reason for their loss, now she is claiming she never told them that, and calling them liars.

Needless to say, that is not going over at ALL well with the families, as this Daily Mail story makes clear:

[…] She knows that she knew what happened that day and she wasn’t truthful,’ Kate Quigley told the Boston Herald Radio’s Morning Meeting on Wednesday.

‘This is a woman that will do and say anything to get what she wants. I have very little respect for her.

‘I know what she said to me and she can say all day long that she didn’t say it. That’s her cross to bear.’

She adds: ‘As someone who has suffered so much heartache over the loss of Glen (Doherty), it is hard to consider the possibility that help could have come much sooner. (Click here to read the rest.)

“Liar” doesn’t even begin to cover it, does it? To turn this around and act like all of these families are wrong out of their grief is deplorable.

And speaking of “deplorable,” back to Obama for the last word on that. No doubt, you all remember the trading of five very dangerous terrorists for one traitor, Bowe Bergdahl, Well, the US House has come out with its review of that trade. Their bottom line? Obama lied. And he broke the law, the report found. Add to that misleading Congress and the media to boot. Shocking, I know. The Hill has the story, if you want to read more about the findings.

Bottom line is this: this Administration, from Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton, the White House through to the State Department and Department of Homelands Security, are going out of their way to lie to us, to mislead us, and it seems, to protect Islamist groups. There is so much so wrong about that, it boggles the mind.

So I will leave this up to you now. This is an Open Thread.


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32 Responses to “Whistleblowers Penalized, Terrorism Edition *Open Thread*”

  1. foxyladi14 Says:

    This is what Obama should be doing. 😡

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Uh, yeah – that is what he should be doing.

      As we have noted before, Carter has to be THRILLED to no longer be considered the Worst. President. Ever.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Obama lied and his supporters don’t care.

    Hillary lied and continues to lie and her supporters don’t care.

    God only knows what Trump is doing and saying and his supporters don’t care.

    We don’t have leaders anymore or elections. We have “stars” and “pageants”. Guy Benson at Townhall calls it a “cult of personality”. I don’t know what to call it except wrong.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Here’s what else Guy Benson had to say about Trump – I agree with every word:

      Trump is a self-serving, unprincipled, unreliable political shape-shifter. He’s a walking, bloviating strawman, habitually arming the Left with ammunition to claim vindication for their cartoonish characterizations of conservatives. He’s the ultimate conservative poser. He may be pushing the right buttons to suit a segment of the populace’s mood, but he evinces exceedingly tenuous knowledge of issues, and displays little in the way of loyalty to any core convictions beyond, “what benefits Donald J. Trump at this exact moment?” ~ Guy Benson

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Yes, yes, YES – Benson is spot on. Absolutely spot on. Trump is a poser, and he is making Republicans look ridiculous, as if the Dems and their Media lapdogs need any more help in that regard.

        It sure lends some credence to the meme that Trump is a Dem. plant, doesn’t?

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          That’s what I was doing as I read that paragraph – yelling yes, yes, YES!

          And bad as all that is Trumps latest is that he would “mandate” by “executive order” the death penalty for all who kill cops. I posted it on the previous thread – here’s a repeat:

          Donald Trump Says He’d Mandate the Death Penalty for People Who Kill Cops

          While I’ve written before about how I support the use of the death penalty, there’s a few things wrong with what Trump said. Namely, it violates the 10th Amendment as well as the 6th Amendment, and possibly the 8th and 5th. Also, it’s not exactly the most “conservative” thing in the world to alter the criminal justice system via executive order.


          FYI I am against the death penalty not because I don’t think some murderous scum deserve to be put to death but because I don’t trust the “system” to get things right. More than one ambitious DA has rushed to convict for political purpose not for justice.

          “Mandating it” by executive order? Another would be emperor in the White House is just what we need. Will the Trumpkins have the honesty to call him out on this? My guess is not. Like the Obots their hero can do no wrong.

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Hillary vs. the Benghazi Families

    There is little doubt this presidential campaign season is unique, at least in one respect: for the first time in a long time, the despicable nature of the mainstream media’s double-standard is as much in focus as the candidates themselves. And perhaps nothing screams double-standard more than the calculated lack of attention on Hillary Clinton’s latest assertion that she never told the families grieving over the loss of their loved ones in Benghazi that an anti-Muslim video was to blame for the attacks.


    • kenoshamarge Says:

      A.F. Branco had Hillary pegged a while back:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Fantastic Branco cartoon. He really does nail it, doesn’t he?

      And the Front Page Mag. is so right. That is basically what American Thinker was saying, too – the media is so focused on the latest Trumpism, and everyone’s reaction to it, that they are completely letting Clinton go by unscathed for her unbelievably insulting statement. WOW.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    2015 Word of the Year: “radicalized”

    Passive-aggressive politically-correct portrayal of murderous Jihadis as victims of circumstance.


    Iowahawk’s take on the nonsensical word “radicalized”

    David Burge aka Iowahawk: “radicalized” is my nominee for Orwellian passive verb of the year

    Another David Burge tweet: There they were, minding their own business, when *ZAP* they were hit by the mysterious radicalizer beam

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      ROTFL – that just cracked me up abt the “radicalizer beam” – that is EXACTLY how they make it sound. Love it!!!

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Iowahawk is so clever and is far more quotable IMO than all the politicians put together. I too cracked up at the image of the “radicalizer” beam zapping the poor innocent killers. What absolute hogwash!

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

  6. helenk3 Says:


    this s a video that is a must watch.

    words fail me

  7. helenk3 Says:


    DHS rarely deports for terrorism. 1000th of 1 of cases

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    Meet the Farooks: The Modern Jihad Family

    How did this anything-but-moderate family not attract any law enforcement attention?

    When Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife Tashfeen Malik murdered fourteen people and wounded twenty-one at a holiday party in San Bernardino, California, Farook’s family, having lawyered up, instructed its legal representatives to tell the world how shocked – shocked! – they were by the massacre. However, just as Captain Renault is handed his winnings immediately after telling Rick Blaine of his shock that gambling was going on in Rick’s Café Americain, so also in this case did the family’s shock seem increasingly less genuine the more that became known about them.

    Initially, however, the lie was fed easily to a credulous mainstream media. One of the Farook family lawyers, David Chesley, immediately found the nearest microphone and declared: “None of the family members had any idea that this was going to take place. They were totally shocked.”

    Even in stories that reported this, however, the story started to unravel. No sooner had the Associated Press quoted Chesley that it noted that he and another Farook family lawyer, Mohammad Abuershaid, said that “Farook’s mother lived with the couple but she stayed upstairs and didn’t notice they had stockpiled 12 pipe bombs and well over 4,500 rounds of ammunition.”


    And those gun control idiots that never let a mass shooting go to waste for their political gain need to understand that what sometimes kills, is being too PC to report on suspicious activities of those who would murder our people.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, how well I remember that press conference with the family attorneys. The attorneys stood there and blatantly lied (I know, so unusual for attorneys – kidding, to all those attorneys out there!). Their denials rang ridiculously false given what the FBI had already said. It was a huge waste of everyone’s time.

      And no kidding abt those who died because of Political Correctness. There is no other way to look at it. Had that person not felt so cowed by fear of seeming like a bigot and called in the shady behavior going on, things might have ended very differently indeed. And no, I am not blaming that one person, but the system the Left has created to squelch people’ s own good common sense and free speech.

      Btw, I am sure you have heard by now that the attack in CA by the 18 yr old student was ALSO a terror attack, one the sheriff was quick to claim otherwise. The FBI has now taken over the case as the evidence to support terrorism has surfaced and appears clear indeed.

  10. helenk3 Says:


    what contempt the hillary people have for her supporters. they even lie about the weather

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Holy smokes, are you kidding me with that? I think I would have left, too…Well, I wouldn’t have been there anyway, but you know what I mean!

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    There is something so wrong with these liberal “journalists.” Chris Cuomo tried to blame the madman shooter in CO on Fiorina. NOT the material in the videotapes, mind you – but Fiorina. WOW: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/11/cnn-host-tries-to-blame-planned-parenthood-shooting-on-fiorina-video/

  12. Mary Ellen Says:

    Hi Amy, thought you might find this interesting. My brother called me yesterday and told me about a problem going on in some of the Catholic Churches there….a muslim group who say they “converted” to christianity are going into the Catholic churches during their Masses and shouting and making threats.

    Here is a video at one of them…


    Seems that the Las Vegas officicials dont’ find this to be a “crime” and has not arrested anyone.

    My brother works for one of the churches and was present during the intrusions, he’s a lector and also opens and prepares the church everyday for their Masses. He is also in charge of locking up the church at night.

    This group call themselves Koosha Las Vegas…they also do street protests and entered a catholic high school campus to protest. It’s definitely targeting Catholics.

    At what point do the authorities take this as a possible serious terrorist threat???? I guess until the churches are burned down or one of those guys go in with guns blazing, it will be no big deal to them.

    Although I am worried about my brother’s safety since he is there everyday, I am also worried that this will spread to more Catholic Churches in other areas by “copycat” groups.

    Sheesh….you would think homeland security or SOMEBODY would arrest these guys but as usual, they just can’t see a problem with it. I’m also not happy with the stance that the diocese is taking by telling the congragants to remain in their pews and ignore them. My brother’s parish pastor told them they would stop the Mass (which is just what the protestors want) and they would sing to try to drown them out. Seriously…..not sure if that will detour any of them from escalating their protests to violence.

    Anyway…..thought you might be interested in this.

    Take care, kiddo….and hi to everyone!


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Holy smokes, Nunly – that is absolutely INCREDIBLE. And of course, they are all too happy to claim this is “Christian on Christian,” not anybody else involved, nope, don’t even think abt it.


      I will certainly keep your brother and his parish in my prayers, and I pray that this does NOT spread to other churches. I also pray that the PC-ness that has overtaken our gov’t agencies will be repelled, and they will start doing the right thing already…

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