The Courts Surprise, And Palin Does, Too *Open Thread* UPDATED


Update at the end of the post.

Sorry I am running late today. Besides the jet lag and very little sleep Monday night on the aptly named Red eye, I just got a call from our barn manager that one of the horses had to be put down on Monday. Understand there are only 6 horses (now) and 1 pony at the barn. It is a small place, so I knew this little mare well and loved her. She was a total sweetheart., and I am going to miss her. Bless her heart… Anyway, I am running behind as a result

In a stunning move, the Supreme Court has decided it is going to hear the case against Obama’s Immigration Grab. But that isn’t the ONLY court that is standing up to Obama, oh no. Another court has declared Obama is wrong, wrong, wrong on withholding “Fast and Furious” documents from the Congress. Oh, this is gonna be good.

First to the Supremes. Gabriel Malor at The Federalist has the particulars:

[…] Obama’s solution to his immigration proposals’ lack of popularity was to simply ignore Congress. On November 20, 2014, at Obama’s direction, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Jeh Johnson issued a memo purporting to lay out a new form of immigration relief called Deferred Action For Parents of Americans, also known by its acronym, “DAPA.”

Legalizing and Subsidizing Anchor Babies

Under DAPA, certain aliens unlawfully present in the United States could obtain temporary lawful status if, among other things, they have a child who is a U.S. citizen or a lawful permanent resident. In other words, for the first time, the Obama administration brought the “anchor baby” concept into practice in the United States.

These two statuses come with a host of federal and state benefits.

Under the DAPA program, a successful alien applicant gets two things from DHS: “deferred action,” which confers temporary lawful status, and work authorization. But these two statuses come with a host of other federal and state benefits, including Social Security retirement benefits, Social Security disability benefits, Medicare, the Earned Income Tax Credit, state driver’s licenses, and state unemployment insurance. Setting aside the federal costs, the states (or, rather, the states’ hardworking taxpayers) would end up paying millions of dollars because of DAPA.

So Texas and 25 partner states promptly sued to block this plan. The preliminary injunction hearing before the district court took place on January 9, 2015. We’re barely past one year later, and already the Supreme Court has agreed to resolve the case. That is an extraordinarily fast pace for a very complicated case. Legally, there are four moving pieces to this, and any one of them could be the deciding issue.

There is so much more to this excellent piece about all that this entails in terms of Obama’s power grab, and I cannot include it all here. Malor lays out what the big issues are with how Obama and DHS Jeh Johnson have violated the law. He concludes with this important note:

[…]  Barring any truly odd circumstances, it is a safe bet, given how late the argument in this case will be heard and the likely contentious opinions among the justices, that this case, along with the abortion reform case Whole Women’s Health v. Cole and the seven consolidated contraception mandate accommodation cases, will be among the last set of opinions issued by the Supreme Court before the term ends in June. Whether the high court intended it or not, that will launch this issue into the spotlight at the height of the election. (Click here to read the rest.)

It will be big, no doubt about it. I hope and pray that the Supremes will do the RIGHT thing for the States and for US on this issue, and put a halt to Obama’s exta-legislative power grab.

As noted above, this is not the only Court issue to hit the news this week. And this is a big one too. If you need a refresher on the importance of “Fast and Furious,” I recommend Sharyl Attkisson’s reports. She is the one who broke this story in the first place, and exposed that it was guns this government allowed into the hands of criminals that too the lives of TWO Federal agents.

Now to the story from the Daily Caller:

A federal judge ruled Tuesday the Obama administration can’t use executive privilege to shield Operation Fast and Furious documents from Congress, and ordered the administration to turn over the requested documents.

Public disclosures from the Department of Justice (DOJ) about its response to the botched operation undercut the administration’s attempt to invoke executive privilege, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled, according to Politico. The administration can appeal the ruling. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

This is an incredibly important ruling, especially coming from a Federal judge. I imagine the release of those documents, assuming the Government loses its appeal, will contain a whole bunch more revelations about what the Government did with this whole program downplayed by Obama and then-DOJ Director, Eric Holder. Yep. Should be interesting!

Finally, since it is being blared up one side and down the other on the news, you likely know that Gov. Sarah Palin has endorsed Donald Trump for President. I cannot begin to tell you how shocked I am by her endorsement, and how much this has affected my opinion of her. I had the feeling early on that she liked him, but to ENDORSE him over some others is astonishing. I think Glenn Beck sums up this endorsement well, as reported in BizPacReview:

Sarah Palin.

Small Government, lower taxes, fewer regulations and the constitution?
Not any more.

Big government, bailouts, executive orders, not just abortion but partial birth abortion, nationalizing of banks, stimulus, pathway to citizenship.

All of these views were held by Donald Trump during this administration. Pathway to citizenship in 2013. Some as recently as last year.

What was the massive pivot point to make him change so fundamentally?

When Sarah and the tea party won a hard fought election and were under attack in 2010, DJT was giving money to Pelosi, Reid and Rahm.

I couldn’t disagree with her more but she has played the game now for years. Perhaps she knows more than those of us still on the outside.

Maybe the press was right about her but for all of the wrong reasons. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

And there you have it. She is endorsing someone closer to Hillary than to Cruz or Rubio or Fiorina or Bush or Carson, and I could go on. That just boggles the mind.

That’s what I think. How about you? This is an Open Thread.


UPDATE: Wanna guess who was found with at least one weapon from “Fast and Furious”? That would be EL CHAPO, who had a .50 caliber weapon, the kind that is used to bring down helicopters. Fox News has the story. Stunning…


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50 Responses to “The Courts Surprise, And Palin Does, Too *Open Thread* UPDATED”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I’ve been disappointed in Sarah Palin ever since she resigned as Governor of Alaska. Supposedly she was not retreating she was reloading. It looked like retreating to me and I never thought much of her after that. I thought then and still do that she got a raw deal from the left and the lefty media that reported every idiotic thing Tina Fey said as if Palin said it.

    Now that she’s effectively stabbed Ted Cruz in the back, and damns with faint praise by saying he should stay in the Senate where he is hated, I have no respect left for her. She saw the best chance she had to get her hands in a very well filled cookie jar and took it.

    She tried several television shows and failed so maybe Trump will fund her for something. I am past disgusted.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I could understand Palin stepping down from Governor since her family was having to pay ALL of the legal costs of dealing with the frivolous lawsuits brought by Dems against her. And, they took a tremendous amt of her time to deal with, so she wasn’t doing the work of the state. I have no doubt had she stayed in, the Dems would have attacked her relentlessly for spending all her time in court, so there is that.

      But I do take your point. And she did get a raw deal from the Media, no doubt abt it.

      Her decision to support Trump, though, along with stabbing Cruz in the back, is unexpected from someone who always traded on her ethics cache. Ugh. Yeah, I am beyond disgusted, too…

      • piper Says:

        I thought she was a fighter who took on the GOP and corruption in her state. As my dh used to say, there’s more to her resignation story than we been told (actually he said this about many people and their stories/actions.)

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          She did. She stood up to the GOP in her state, and resigned a six-figure paying position for ethical reasons. That she would then throw her weight to Trump speaks volumes.

          Interesting abt your dh, piper. Seems he may be onto something!

    • piper Says:

      Agree with your comment. I read somewhere in the blogosphere that she is hurting financially which could be one of the reasons she’s endorsing money bags, Trump. Another one is wanting to be seen as being a king maker and staying relevant.
      I was never a fan of George Bush especially after Afghanistan and Iraq, 2 more places we had no business being there but I do respect that he basically has remained quiet during obama’s disastrous presidency. Of course, he would endorse his brother although I wish Jeb would quietly exit and return home.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Interesting abt the financial implications, piper. I would hate to think that of her, but as you and Marge noted, it might be the impetus for supporting a BILLIONAIRE.

        Yeah, I have come to have a grudging respect for Bush on a few matters, and this would be one of them. Good for him for staying out of it all and letting the process play out.

        No kidding abt Jeb, though he did have his best performance yet at the last debate. It seems the fix is in, though,w hen the moderators fail to note little things like it being Trump himself who made the distinction between NYC values and Iowa, and not bothering to mention that Trump apparently only gave $1,000 to any 9/11 related charities, and THAT one was a Scientology one, according to RedState:

    • mcnorman Says:

      Honestly, I don’t think SP means much in the way of an endorsement except to herself. I

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I think the only importance she has is as someone that helped get Cruz elected and now turns on him to support Trump. It says more about her than it does about either man. And somehow now when I see her face I see Governor Richardson knifing Hillary. It didn’t end up doing him and good and I hope this ends up ending Palin.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          OHMYGOSH, Marge – I had completely forgotten abt Richardson (mainly because I never liked the guy). Yes, that is very much how it feels, and like jumping on the bandwagon.

          Again, it amazes me that these folks, especially those on tee-vee, seem to IGNORE the 70% or so of us who do NOT support Trump. And if you look at the comments at Palin’s Facebook page after her announcement, there are a LOT of us who don’t want Trump.

          And mcnorman, you have a point there…

      • mcnorman Says:


        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          A friend steeled himself and watched the announcement and said people were not enthused at all. Interesting that…

          • mcnorman Says:

            I really think that she was in this endorsement for anything that might fall from sky. I don’t thank that anything will either. Donald is about him not anyone else.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          mcnorman, I bet you are right. And no DOUBT you are right that Trump is all abt Trump. Palin ruined her cred for nothing…

  2. helenk3 Says:

    another backtrack legacy

  3. helenk3 Says:

    she stood him up.
    morning after regrets?

  4. helenk3 Says:

    trump calls for MORE ethanol blending in gas

    every con man i ever knew tells you what you want to hear

  5. helenk3 Says:

    as much as I can not stand trump, this is wrong.
    In America all that are running for office should be allowed to make their case and let the voters decide

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is wrong. Just the same way those in the UK wanted to ban him. That is just idiotic. WTH is wrong with people?

      Anyway, you are right – the voters have to decide. Sure would be nice if we had even a tenth of the coverage Trump gets for each one of the other candidates, wouldn’t it? Then we could make INFORMED decisions…

  6. helenk3 Says:

    ust a reminder

    at this time in 1 year we will have a new president. backtrack will be gone

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      If he is replaced by a Trump or a Hillary we won’t be any better off. And it looks as if that will be the choice. I have to vote so that I can vote against Russ Feingold and for Ron Johnson.

      Senator Johnson is, if you’ve forgotten, the one who asked Clinton about Benghazi and got the infamous “what difference does it make” response. I’ve always thought she was annoyed by the les majesté’ of Johnson, a nobody from Wisconsin of all places, and that’s what cause the outburst. Whatever caused it he did us all a favor by showing her in her true colors.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Forgot to include that I have to vote for Johnson but if the choice at the top of the ballot is Trump or Clinton I’ll leave it blank. As far as I’m concerned one is as bad for the country as the other.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Halle-damn-lujah. That year cannot pass quickly enough for me.

      Though yeah, if it is Trump or Clinton, I will be writing in someone else. Honestly, I was just thinking abt this earlier today as I watched Andrea Tantaros continue her Trump love fest. I was thinking along the same lines as you, Marge. I will vote for Sen. Scott and Rep. Sanford, but if Trump is on the ticket, a write-in it will be.

      Oh yes – how well I remember your Senator and his role! It astounded me that all these people – especially women – were SO outraged that he DARED to ask Clinton a real question. While the Dem Senators were all praising her every move while Sec. of State, he asked a REAL question and got her angry response.

      So yeah – I can totally see voting for Sen. Johnson! 🙂

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

  8. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Oh, no. I just found out I agree with VP Biden on something:

  9. helenk3 Says:

    WOW they make me feel so secure NOT.

    why do dems hate America?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Excellent question, Helen, one for which I have no answer…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      What is it with the Dems that makes them more concerned with immigrants than with American Citizens? Why would they even chance some Jihadist entering our country? I have never understood their rabid care for outsiders while allowing even a chance of harm coming to our own people. I am all for helping others but you start by caring for your own.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Beats the hell out of me, but you are right, Marge – their concern seems to be far less for US Citizens than for illegal immigrants, even when they know there is a chance they are TERRORISTS. It is insane…

  10. helenk3 Says:

    a short break

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    Poll: 80% Disagree With Hillary Clinton’s Abortion Position

    2 out of 3 pro-choicers approve of some restrictions

    The vast majority of Americans support abortion reforms opposed by Hillary Clinton, according to a new poll.

    A survey of nearly 2,000 people conducted Marist Polling found that 80 percent of all Americans, including nearly 70 percent of self-identified pro-choicers, support some restrictions on abortion. The results put voters at odds with Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Wow, that is something! Glad to know that many of these folks think there should be restrictions. There SHOULD be restrictions, and to not have them opens the doors WIDE to nefarious acts…

  12. kenoshamarge Says:

  13. kenoshamarge Says:

    Donald Trump and the Cult of Personality

    “Power,” Henry Kissinger once told The New York Times, “is the ultimate aphrodisiac.” Kissinger might amend that statement today: Now, fame is power, and thus replaces power as the ultimate aphrodisiac. In fact, fame isn’t just an aphrodisiac — it’s the ultimate nepenthe, a drug causing forgetfulness. The more famous our politicians are, the more we neglect their positions and character. No wonder the most admired woman in America is criminal Hillary Clinton, the most admired man is criminal Barack Obama, and the second-most admired man is loudmouth Donald Trump.

    We assume that fame inoculates our politicians for the same reason we check Yelp reviews: If there are tons of people who recommend a restaurant, they can’t all have been bribed. If tons of people like and support a politician, then, he or she must be worthwhile.

  14. piper Says:

    Usually do not visit RedState but somehow today I followed a few links and found this well-written article which does a much better job of explaining my disgust with Trump, Palin and media crazies who are pushing Trump as a way to increase their viewership/ratings. It’ll be a cold day in h***ll before I watch Fox News again, a promise I made about MSNBC and CNN 8 years ago.

    • piper Says:

      “Make no mistake. Palin isn’t alone in this betrayal of the ideology she once rode to prominence. Talking heads from Hannity to Levin to Limbaugh have cut the throats of the entire conservative movement, all for the ratings a sideshow freak like Trump brings. Palin’s move, as well as the past few months of fawning, slack-jawed devotion to all things Trump that those who (formerly) enjoyed conservative talk radio have had to endure shows those of us who still value principle over celebrity just how unreliable and self-serving those who would be our “voice” truly are.

      If it’s true that we reap what we sow, the next couple of months will see Palin and her brood fade into obscurity, once and for all. Those talking heads (I’m looking squarely at you, Sean Hannity) who are obviously in the Donald’s soiled pocket need to see their ratings plummet, as a fitting response to their willingness to turn a blind eye to this fraud in our midst and build him up, even as he tears the name of conservatism down.

      Am I angry? Yes, I am. I’m angry at Trump for his charade. I’m angry at voters who would let this man rise so high in the polls, and an unwillingness to see how closely they mirror the Obama fans from 2008. I’m angry at radio personalities, TV news creeps, and attention seeking has-beens for putting their own self-interests above our nation’s well-being. We had the strongest bench in many years, but more qualified candidates are pushed aside in favor of this Manhattan bully.”

      Complete read at:

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Thanks for the link. I don’t usually go to RedState either and I would have missed this excellent article. Again, thanks.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I totally understand, piper – I ended up at RedState via an article in another site abt Trump’s lack of charity.

      That said, when someone is right, they are right. I am angry in the same way the author is at the Trumpkins who support Donald no matter what he says or does, or in spite of his previous (not too distant) positions. There is NO doubt they are like Obama supporters, and prove it more every day.

      Thank you so much for this. Appreciate it!

  15. helenk3 Says:

    interesting article. makes sense

  16. helenk3 Says:

    just perfect

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