Cruz Cruised, Trump And Rubio About Tied, And A Socialist Does Too Well *Open Thread*


Wow, talk about defying all the polls and expectations! That is what Sen. Cruz did on Monday in Iowa with the Caucuses. Despite the incessant drumbeat for Trump, Trump, Trump, Cruz came out victorious, followed by Trump, an a VERY close third by Sen. Marco Rubio. Dr. Ben Carson came in fourth at 9%, and it went downhill from there. Gov. Mike Huckabee has (finally) suspended his campaign. Perhaps others will follow, but at this point, Huckabee is the only one.

I don’t want to let this caucus win by Sen. Cruz over Donald Trump pass without highlighting that, once again, the MEDIA and POLLING were dead wrong. Dead wrong. Even with the air time Trump was given, presumably because he was the frontrunner, Sen. Cruz took Iowa. And that Rubio was SO close to Trump speaks volumes, too.

Along those lines, the close third place finish for Rubio was right from his playbook according to this National Review article:

[…] According to multiple Rubio allies recently briefed on campaign strategy, the senator’s team has settled on an unconventional path to winning the GOP primary contest. The strategy, dubbed “3-2-1” by some who have been briefed on it, forecasts a sequence in which Rubio takes third place in Iowa on February 1, finishes second in New Hampshire on February 9, and wins South Carolina on February 20. From there, Rubio would be well-positioned in the long haul to win a plurality of voters, and ultimately a majority of delegates, in a three-way contest against Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

This planning represents a concession from Rubio’s brain trust that Cruz and Trump will take the top two spots in Iowa – most likely in that order – and that Trump will win New Hampshire.

More boldly, it assumes that a Rubio victory will be possible in South Carolina even if he doesn’t win either of the first two states.

This would not be unprecedented; Newt Gingrich in 2012 won South Carolina after finishing fourth in Iowa and fifth in New Hampshire. But many GOP officials and rival campaign representatives believe that Cruz and Trump victories in the first two contests would generate a head-to-head battle for the nomination, depriving their also-ran opponents of political oxygen heading into South Carolina. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Well, so far so good, but I imagine the win in Iowa might just give the Cruz campaign some wind at his back as he moves into the next contest, the New Hampshire Primary. As for Trump, I don’t know if this second-place finish will dampen their enthusiasm any, but hey – at least they can no longer claim he is the frontrunner, can they?

There was someone else who dropped out after last night’s event. Gov. Martin O’Malley has also suspended his campaign. I bet O’Malley never thought a septuegenarian who has lived off the taxpayer dime for DECADES now, with blessedly few legislative accomplishments, and who is a blatant Socialist would do better than O’Malley did, especially with the young people. I never thought so either, and I am thoroughly disturbed by the direction this country and the Democratic Party has taken. Never mind that Bernie Sanders has somehow managed to convince all these young people that someone who has been in office for YEARS now is an “outsider.” Yet, he has.

The Socialism part has me thoroughly disconcerted. I literally woke up in the middle of the night last night to see if Clinton pulled out a win or not over this Socialist. Still too close to call, they keep saying, and that just freaks me out. Greg Gutfeld is none too thrilled about it either, as he speaks eloquently about the dangers of Socialism in the video below:

And there you have it. It is a failure of our Educational system that so many people do not understand the perils of Socialism. Heck, you don’t even have to look at last century to see how bad it is. As Gutfeld noted, look at Venezuela, Argentina, Cuba, Greece, and I would add, Puerto Rico. Socialism SAVAGES countries and the people who love there. It does not promote job growth unless it is in the Government, and it reduces people DOWN, not support them in growing UP. Those would be the GOOD things about it. The realities are far worse.

David Harsanyi from The Federalist has something to say about the “too-close-to-call” contest in Iowa between Clinton and Sanders:

[…] Put it this way: Last night, 25 percent of the GOP voted for celebrity populist who gained unparalleled coverage from the media for a half a year. Half of Democrats voted for a once-obscure elderly socialist senator from Vermont who bases his campaign on conspiracy theories and juvenile zero-sum economic theories that were all the rage in the early 1900s. (And the other half went to a candidate that sounds increasingly like him.)

Like him or not, Cruz’s positions, as conservative as they are, are within the philosophical frontiers of the Reagan Right. Maybe you think them antiquated, but they are hardly “radical” — as in representing some extreme section of a political party or movement. Cruz’s ideas would be recognizable to any Republican in 1984 or 1994. But would any Clinton-era Democrat in 1996 embrace the economic positions of Sanders (or Hillary, for that matter)? How about 2008?

It’s amusing to watch people maintain that Sanders isn’t a genuine socialist because he hasn’t laid out a Five Year Plan or called for the means of production to be transferred to the state. (Last night, for example, CNN’s Van Jones continually referred to Sanders as a “progressive” — which tells us something about socialism and progressivism.) Socialists are always “democratic” when they have no choice. The fun part comes later. So Sanders might inject a measure of nationalism into his brand of socialism. He may fuse his old-fashioned redistributionism and class-warfare with some contemporary political flourishes. He may believe in incrementalism — just as Marx did. But Sanders does not believe a free market should determine how goods and services are distributed. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

And all of that scares the crap out of me, especially since Clinton is listing farther and farther Left to keep up with the Sanderites. I truly worry about this country.

But for right now, I am happy that Cruz won and that Rubio did so well. That is good news indeed.

That’s what I think. How about you? This is an Open Thread.


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18 Responses to “Cruz Cruised, Trump And Rubio About Tied, And A Socialist Does Too Well *Open Thread*”

  1. Justine Says:

    Results of 5% of Demo precincts “lost”? GOP elite vs. Demo elite?

    “The Iowa Democratic Party informed the campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernard Sanders late Monday night that it has no results for 90 precincts across the state, which could account for as much as 5 percent of the total vote. And the party has asked the campaigns for help in getting a tally for those missing results. …”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Huh! How the heck did THAT happen?! Wowie zowie. It is amazing that the Clinton result was so, so close anyway. But I just cannot get over this response to a Socialist by so many Americans, especially considering what Socialism is:

      • Justine Says:


        “…the ownership of six delegates was decided by a coin flip. … In all six instances, the coin toss was won by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

        There may have been more coin tosses, but those are the ones we know about for now.

        Now, get ready to do some math.

        In a single coin toss, the probability of calling the toss correctly is 50 percent, or one in two. Heads or tails.

        But the probably of winning every flip out of six flips is one in 64, or 1.56 percent. …”

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Btw, it is good to *see* you again, justine!

          I was wondering abt that VERY thing. I mean, really – the chances of that SIX TIMES seems high to me. Thanks for the percentages! I mean, best 2 out of 3 I could see, but 6 times in a row? Wow…

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Iowa Strengthens Republicans, Weakens Democrats

    Bad news for the Left and good news for the GOP.

    By Daniel Greenfield

    Hillary Clinton came into Iowa with all the organization in the world, but none of the enthusiasm. It will take time to determine whether she managed to eke out a tiny victory against a senescent Socialist, but her shrill speech and deranged expression, eyes wild, draped in blood-red, were not those of a winner.

    Bernie Sanders had poor organization, but plenty of enthusiasm. And that paid off. 43% of Iowa caucus goers identified as Socialists and 53% as politically correct. No matter how far to the left Hillary rushed, she couldn’t narrow that enthusiasm gap because she is fundamentally inauthentic.

    Organization may have bought her a narrow win. Maybe. But it can’t buy her enthusiasm. And that will be a big problem for her in a general election.

    On the Republican side of the dial, enthusiasm without organization also proved to be a disaster. Trump’s campaign had plenty of enthusiasm and was ahead in the polls, but it lacked the organization to capitalize on the enthusiasm and all the free publicity. Rubio had some organization and enthusiasm and came in third. Ted Cruz had the best combination of organization and enthusiasm and came in first.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Excellent piece, Marge. Thanks for this. I hope Greenfield is right in his assessment abt this weakening the Dems…

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    I’m really surprised that Cruz won. I know everyone was talking about what a great ground game he had but all the media coverage was for Trump and with the Ethanol Lobby, including the Governor attacking Cruz it was an uphill slog. Good for the good voters of Iowa.

    Also remember that the large numbers of voters and all the new voters was supposed to mean a “yuge” victory for Trump. As they say, the best laid plans of mice and men…

    Good thing you can’t see through my computer because I’m doing a happy dance. And that is not a pretty sight. 😉

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      ROTFLMAO – I love the idea of you doing a happy dance, Marge! Of course, when I think of you, I think of your avatar, so that’s what I see! Ahahaha…

      YES – the media and polls were all wet when it came to the actual results. Maybe now they will stop pushing Trump so damn much. And Rubio’s third place was MUCH closer than anyone thought it was going to be, too.

      It is a good day, am I right? 😀

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        It seems that Rubio’s 3rd place was more important than Cruz’s win. Media is talking non-stop about Rubio.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          It is curious that they continue to talk abt Rubio more than Cruz considering Cruz’s very clear win. So sick of the media playing these games.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    Punxsutawney Phil fails to see shadow. Global warming to blame?

    Can someone reassure me that no one gave Putz De Blasio another ground hog to kill this year?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOL, oh, my – well, I thought the Farmer’s Almanac said this was going to be a bad winter. What is Phil’s success rate?

      And yeah – no one should let De Blasio anywhere NEAR one of these critters!

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I’m hoping that the groundhog is right and the Almanac is wrong. My old bones just aren’t up to shoveling snow anymore. And bright young things willing to make a few bucks shoveling are no where in sight.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          LOL – I totally understand abt the weather and the old bones! And I guess I shouldn’t tell you that it is 70 degrees here right now.

          • kenoshamarge Says:

            Now that’s just mean! 😉 Actually it’s in the upper 40’s here so its not that cold. It’s just that the melting snow makes it very damn and much of that snow is now ice that are death traps for old ladies with less than reliable legs.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            I know – and it is clear as a bell, too. Hey, just remember that you and Lou are welcome anytime you want to take a break from the wintry weather! 😀

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