Winners And Losers *Open Thread*


It is official: the Denver Broncos are Super Bowl Champions! Peyton Manning, at 39 yrs old, led his team, along with an incredibly stingy defense, to a two-touchdown lead victory over the much ballyhooed Carolina Panthers.

As you know, I was rooting for the Broncos. I like Peyton Manning, and dislike the attitude fostered by Ron Rivera, coach of the Panthers, as exhibited primarily in his poor sport, taunting, arrogant, quarterback, Cam Newton. So I am DELIGHTED with the outcome. And really, how could I NOT support a team with Thunder as their mascot:

What a great horse! Thunder got his exercise last night since he runs the length of the field after every touchdown.

Now that the Super Bowl is over, there is immediate speculation that Manning will retire. He is 39 after all, and had a pretty bad injury this season that kept him out for a number of weeks. Should he decide to retire, I think he could teach young quarterbacks like Cam Newton how to be more professional, less arrogant, more humble, and a better sport. Considering Newton’s behavior during and after the game, he could use a coach like that:

Now, I know he just lost, but still – grow up. Then again, this man named his newborn son, “Chosen,” so what can one expect?

But the Broncos weren’t the only winners over the weekend. Turns out Hillary Clinton really did win the Iowa Caucus. From The Hill:

The Iowa Democratic Party on Sunday updated the results of the Iowa caucuses after discovering discrepancies in the tallies at five precincts, but the final outcome remains unchanged.

Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton still places first in the caucuses with 700.47 state delegate equivalents, or 49.84 percent, the party said in a statement.

Primary rival Bernie Sanders comes in second with 696.92 state delegate equivalents, or 49.59 percent.

The total net change gives Sanders an additional 0.1053 state delegate equivalents and strips Clinton of 0.122 state delegate equivalents. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

So it is official – again – Clinton won.

That said, it isn’t looking good for her in the upcoming Primary on Tuesday in New Hampshire, though she is gaining ground, according to The Hill. I reckon we will know by tomorrow night.

As for the losers, once again, I return to the Super Bowl from Sunday Night. Not the Panthers this time, but Beyonce and her halftime show. From Fox News:

Beyoncé and her bouncing bandolier of bullets stirred things up during the Super Bowl halftime show — with two dozen black beret- and Afro-topped backup dancers paying tribute to a different kind of Panther.

The 34-year-old megastar’s crew was dressed in homage to the Black Panther Party, at one point joining her in giving millions of viewers a black-power salute as she belted out her new politically charged power anthem, “Formation.”

“OK, ladies, let’s get in formation!” she sang, tweaking the 50th anniversary of the Super Bowl with a nod to the 50th anniversary of the 1966 founding of the Black Panther Party.



Still, the star herself seemed intent on bringing some amount of empowerment politics to her own performance. At one point, her dancers formed an X on the field, an apparent reference to Malcolm X. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Isn’t that unbelievable? Or rather, it SHOULD be unbelievable that the NFL would PERMIT such a display during the Super Bowl, but they did. Wow. Never mind that the Black Panthers, including the New Black Panther Party, encourage violence. Heck, even the Southern Poverty Law Center lists the New Black Panther Party as:

[I]s a virulently racist and anti-Semitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers.

Andd that is who Beyonce was glorifying. Wow. But not just the Black Panthers, but the Black Lives Matter movement, too, a movement begun on lies, lies, and more lies. One Tweeter made this comment:


@guardian Beyonce gets cops to protect her at the halftime shows, for interviews and for her concerts. Then, she makes a video mocking them.

No freakin’ kidding. What a loser. What a HYPOCRITE. I hope this is the last time we have to endure her performances during a halftime event for the biggest football game around. Just obscene, if you ask me.

One more loser I want to mention in this post. Actually, there are a few, come to think of it. ABC News for leaving out Carly Fiorina out of the debate fits in that category for sure. But ESPECIALLY since they would not even allow her to air an AD during the debate, according to an email from the Fiorina camp. Can you believe that? I hope that fires up her base in a BIG way in New Hampshire.

But ABC wasn’t the only loser. So was Gov. Christie, in my opinion. I know the talking heads are all saying it was Marco Rubio for one tiny moment of the debate, but I think it was Christie for highlighting that he is more like Trump than he or his supporters might want to admit. How? He’s a bully. I know some folks like him, but his abrasive personality does not work for me at all.

Now, I admit – I did not watch the debate, and have only seen clips of it. But the media is doing its DAMNDEST – again – to make it all about Trump and to take down Rubio, even though the talking heads admitted that they would be replaying the one soundbite where Christie went after Rubio, and not all of the many good parts of the debate he had. But they also aren’t showing the part where Trump got booed for attacking the audience and shushing Bush:

Way to win over voters in New Hampshire there, Trump!

All I can say is, I hope those polls are as wrong in New Hampshire as they were in Iowa. Otherwise, we will ALL be losers.

That’s it for me. What’s on your minds today? This is an Open Thread.


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28 Responses to “Winners And Losers *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    Brilliant Branco strikes again!

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Can’t even watch a damn football game any more with some damn racial politics shoved in your face.

    I didn’t watch the Super Bowl. Once my Pack was out I just didn’t care. And the hype is so over the top that it disgusts me.

    That said, I do like Peyton Manning and think he’s a class act. The other quarterback? JV

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Uh, yeah. We watched the Puppy Bowl during halftime. No way was I going to watch Obama’s BFF during halftime, and am I ever glad we made that decision. WTH do the Black Panthers have to do with FOOTBALL?? And the hypocrisy of someone like Beyonce to use the police as her security force then attack them by aligning herself with the BLM, is staggering. No more so than the idiocy of the NFL in having her perform this racist piece during the Super Bowl. UGH.

      Absolutely, Manning is a class act. My other fave team are the Giants, so it was nice to see Eli up in the box cheering on his Big Bro. What a great family they are. The difference between the two quarterbacks on the field last night was glaring. Like I said, Newton could stand to learn a WHOLE lot from Manning.

      I hope your Pack does better next season. But you know I am psyched because Spring Training games start in less than a MONTH now! Woohoo! 😉

    • mcnorman Says:

      Queen Bey of Fools is dumber than a box of rocks. So is the spouse. They feed off the fools that glorify them.

      • mcnorman Says:

        I don’t call twerking dancing. It is actually quite vulgar imho. As for Peyton Manning…lots of folks should take heed and perhaps learn.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I agree completely. It IS vulgar. There were KIDS watching this game, after all – and the NFL allowed this kind of display? Even without all the Black Panthers/BLM being pushed on people, that kind of “dancing” is not acceptable for such a wide variety of ages.

          Then again, I am a curmudgeon, so there is that! 🙂

          Could not agree more abt Manning…

          • mcnorman Says:

            You aren’t a curmudgeon. There are places that are appropriate and inappropriate. I would say that Bey’s twerking belongs inside a strip club where it can be appreciated for what it is. I’m no prude, really. I do take offense to labeling something vulgar as dance. Particularly something that belongs in an adult venue.

            Do we really want to give anyone an excuse for a sexual emergency?

            More on the loser and winner category…

            “We Can Put Refugees On Buses”: Leaked Memo Shows Erdogan Blackmailed Europe For Billions

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            LOL – well, thanks – I appreciate that. It seems that an expectation of decorum and manners is now more curmudgeonly or old-fashioned or something. I think it is just decent.

            And I agree – twerking does belong in a strip club, not out on the gridiron for all to see. “Vulgar” is exactly the right word for it.

            OHMYGOSH abt Erdogan. Wow. I guess he pulled the wool over their eyes alright!

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Ben Carson: Now He’s a Politician

    “You don’t have to be a politician to tell the truth,” Carson quipped in a recent debate. No, you don’t. So let’s start telling the truth. Unless you’re now a politician.

    Carson finished 4th in the February 1 Iowa caucus. Cruz finished 1st, followed by Trump and Rubio respectively. Carson claims he was cheated out of votes because reports circulated—minutes before the caucuses began—that he was dropping out.

    Carson’s mismanagement of his campaign communication led CNN to report on TV (video here) and on Twitter that he was dropping out of the race. The Rubio and Cruz campaigns re-shared this news.

    Rubio denied doing so on Fox News: “You’ll never hear about me making up rumors that someone is dropping out in order to try to get votes.” But investigative journalist Jennifer Burke showed that Team Rubio did disseminate the CNN report, perhaps even more aggressively than Team Cruz. Rubio persisted in blaming Cruz for an activity that his own campaign partook in last week in New Hampshire: “Obviously, we’ve all seen the reports of the rumors that he spread about Ben Carson.”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      From what I understand, Carson brought it up again in the debate. Cruz apologized – again. If a campaign uses information from a NEWS SOURCE to their advantage, stop the whining and complaining, and do a better job of communicating. Carson blames Cruz for not picking up the phone, but how abt the Carson campaign doing so with CNN and the caucus chairs to make sure they know the report is inaccurate? That is to say, Carson bears some responsibility in this, and he needs to let it go already and focus on the next contest, not the last.

      Thanks for this good piece!

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    New Dumb Talking Point: Ted Cruz Is An Anti-Semite

    By David Harsanyi

    Ted Cruz was recently asked to react to Donald Trump’s comments about his wife’s relationship with Goldman Sachs. Cruz retorted that for the billionaire “to make this attack, to use a New York term, it’s the height of chutzpah.”

    Dropping the word chutzpah, even if sounds a little awkward coming from Cruz, works in this context. There’s really no effective English equivalent. “Audacity,” “guts,” “nerve,” “boldness;” all of them are fine, but none of them really have the punch of “chutzpah.”

    But if you’re a lefty columnist adept at ferreting out nefarious conservative dog whistles, the word also conveys anti-Semitism. The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank—who makes a habit of embellishing innocuous statements with imaginary bigotry— explains that voters were finally given a clue as Cruz meant about New York Values: “For Cruz, ‘New York’ is another way of saying ‘Jewish.’”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      How does that make ANY sense whatsoever?? Because someone uses the term “chutzpah” they are anti-Semitic?? That is just plain idiotic. Seriously. That is really hitting the bottom of the well in an attempt to smear someone. Milbank has lost the edge (if he ever had it).

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        “Chutzpah” is only a dog whistle about an anti-Semite if it’s used by a junior senator from Texas. 😉

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    Threats Of Drafting Women Reveal The Lies Of Equality

    Three candidates were exposed in the GOP debate Saturday night for falling for political correctness when they said women should be required to register with Selective Service, which means our daughters would be drafted along with our sons in time of war.

    Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, and Chris Christie each supported registering our daughters when asked about recent changes in Department of Defense policy regarding women in combat. The other candidates were not asked their views, though Sen. Ted Cruz sent out a press release following the debate saying it is immoral to draft women.

    “We have had enough with political correctness, especially in the military,” Cruz said. “Political correctness is dangerous. And the idea that we would draft our daughters to forcibly bring them into the military and put them in close combat, I think, is wrong. It is immoral. I’m the father of two little girls, they are capable of doing anything they desire, but the idea that their government would forcibly put them in a foxhole doesn’t make any sense at all.”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Here’s the thing, though – if the military is being told that women can be in combat, and in every area that men are, why wouldn’t they also have to register for Selective Service? I am not sure how that is “politically correct” as much as the logical conclusion of where the military is now. I think the military has been made to be politically correct, especially considering a number of studies have demonstrated the effects of some of these moves. But hey – if a woman wants to be a Seal, or Ranger, or drive tanks or whatever, and is capable of fulfilling all of the requirements in the same time frame as the men, so be it. Good on her. But that also means that as long as all positions are now open to women, they have to be treated EXACTLY the same as the men. And that means registering for Selective Service.

      I could be wrong, though…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        The problem is that the liberals don’t want women treated the same as men. There are very few women who can physically withstand the training that men can. It’s not sexism, it’s just a fact of nature. So they lower the standards – a sort of affirmative action for women that want to be soldiers whether their bodies are capable of it or not. And then after treating ALL women just like ALL men when it comes to the military they will come after women like my granddaughters who want nothing to do with being a soldier and are horrified at the very thought. But because the liberals want to prove a point women like them will have to be a part of what I think is a farce.

        I also don’t believe in a draft for men either. I saw that in action back in the day and it’s horrible.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          And that is just it, Marge – women ARE different from men physically. I can accept that, despite having been such a rabid feminist for years. Their bodies are different, and there are some things they can do better, while there are things women can do better. I think forcing men to be something they are not – men – has proven to be bad for both men AND women.

          But yeah – lowering standards makes everyone less safe. When you are in that foxhole, you have to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person beside you is able to pull you out if need be. Not all men can do that, but a lot of women can’t do it. That is not a slight at women. It is just accepting that our bodies are different. There is no shame in that. Or there shouldn’t be, anyway.

          But yeah – the point is proven now, isn’t it? Maybe some of these liberals who forced these policies down everyone’s throats will realize how wrongheaded this is when THEIR daughters are having to sign up…

          • mcnorman Says:

            On the issue of standards. The military allows women competing for the same slots as men to be given extra training in Ranger school. How is this equal? If they can’t get it the first time, they should have been taken out of the program just like any of the male counterparts. Why were the females given three months of extra training before the males? This has set a dangerous precedent which makes for safety concerns as well as contempt for those who got a hand up. Like you said, we are different and there is nothing shameful about it.

            • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

              I could not agree more, mcnorman. If they cannot pass in the same time as men, then out they should go. They should not be allowed extra chances if the men aren’t getting them. You are spot on!

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That’s abt the size of it! I have to say, though – beside the Heinz commercial I put up over the weekend, most of the commercials were either stupid or just bizarre. Friends commented at Facebook, too, abt how weird they were. So that was a total bust, as far as I was concerned.

      And we don’t drink, wouldn’t watch Beyonce, but did watch the game, so I guess we are in the minority! 😀

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    As I wrote abt last week, there was a big Immigration hearing last week. In case you are interested, here is Rep. Trey Gowdy’s opening statement:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      That’s why the Dems are so determined to call the illegals “undocumented workers”. Although from the number who immediately go on the dole there can’t be a whole lot of them working.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Excellent point, Marge – yeah, “undocumented worker” misses the mark on a number of levels, doesn’t it?

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Today would have been my Mother’s 90th birthday. She died 45 years ago and I miss her still. Happy Birthday Mom! ❤

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, Marge – bless your heart! I am sure you still miss her, even after all these years (and heaven knows, she was taken from you so young)…My prayers are with you!

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