The Fallout From NH Continues *Open Thread*


Oh, boy. Now that the dust (or should I say, snow?) in NH is settling after the Primary, there is much fodder for the continuing political saga of the nominations. And oh, is it something.

First, we have Trump claiming he won because he called Sen.T ed Cruz a name. That kind of language brought a strong – and I don’t mean that in a positive way – reaction from a focus group here in South Carolina.

Then we have him claiming, as he did on Greta van Susteren’s show, that he “is very capable of changing into whatever I want  to change to,” (h/t Facebook friend). This is a proclamation that should scare the bejeezus out of just about any reasonable, rational person. And it is something that many of us have been saying about him for some time – he changes his positions constantly, sot here is NO WAY to know what he will ACTUALLY do should he get in the White House.

Chris Stirewalt of Fox News made this observation about Donald Trump during a Federalist radio show:

[…] Stirewalt said Donald Trump is a fundamental rebranding of the Republican party. “But he rebrands it, not as the conservative party, but as the Trump party,” he said. “What does Donald Trump stand for? Stuff Donald Trump says.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Pretty much. What is astonishing is the sheer number of people who are okay with this. Thank heavens the vast majority do NOT buy into this, though you would never know that from the media, including Fox.

Since they aren’t doing their job, Sen. Ted Cruz does in this interview with Megyn Kelly (cued to 2:50 via The Right Scoop):


Cruz makes some great points. Sure wish the media would do likewise the same way they go after other candidates. But for now, they are definitely pushing Trump.

Meanwhile, over on the other side of the aisle, we have Bernie Sanders. What did Bernie do after winning NH? Oh, it wasn’t going to Disneyland, nope. He chose to meet with major tax cheat, Al Sharpton, as a way to ingratiate himself and pander to the Black Community. Interesting choice, if you ask me. But then again, for reasons I cannot fathom, Sharpton continues to have a voice for the Black Community despite having been wrong just about every time he has spearheaded an issue.

And here’s some other news about Sanders. That would be who he has chosen as advisers on foreign policy. This is shocking – or it should be, except the Left has been busy demonizing Israel for some time. That is sure not going to change with Sanders, either. From the Washington Free Beacon (via, h/t friend for this):


Democratic presidential contender Bernie Sanders has tapped several critics of Israel to advise him on foreign policy, including one who has compared Israelis to “Nazis” and accused them of waging “a Holocaust.”

Sanders, who is Jewish and had family members slaughtered during the Holocaust, recently disclosed that his top foreign policy advisers include J Street, a dovish Middle East advocacy group that backs some of Congress’ most vocal critics of Israel, former assistant Secretary of Defense Larry Korb, and James Zogby, an Israel detractor who heads the Arab American Institute.

The inclusion of these advisers in the Sanders’ campaign, which has already come under fire forignoring prominent Jewish-American political organizations, has prompted speculation from some that the presidential hopeful will pursue anti-Israel foreign policy priorities.

“Bernie seems to care very little about foreign policy, and so his views are shaped inordinately by advisers,” said Noah Pollak, executive director of the Emergency Committee for Israel, an advocacy organization. “And now we know who those advisers are. Two of them—Zogby and J Street—are leading anti-Israel apologists for terrorism. By his association with these extremist groups, Bernie fails the commander-in-chief test.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

The choices Sanders has made for his advisers is bad enough, but his failure to focus on such important issues as foreign policy during a time when ISIS is on the rise, Iran captures, then mocks, our sailors in a parade, the Middle East continues to implode, and so much more, should be a massive red flag for people. But no – he is “so cute,” as one young couple described him (AB Stoddard made mention of this on Special Report Monday night), along with the failure of his supporters to even understand what he represents, so choosing such anti-Israeli advisers as he has done will surely not matter to them one bit.

But it matters to Israel, precisely for the reasons mentioned above: his choice of advisers.

Both Trump and Sanders would be disastrous to our nation. Hence the importance for Senators Cruz and Rubio to do well in the upcoming contests. I, for one, am not willing to concede my vote and the nomination to someone who has won one state. This process has just begun, and while the media is trying to tell us it is going to be Trump, and pushing Sanders, they don’t have the last say in who the nominees are. We do.

Oh, and one last thing. Sen. Rubio has apologized to his supporters for not doing a better job in the last debate. Now, he had a few bad moments out of MANY moments, though the media chose to focus solely on what went wrong, not what went right. That is how they roll. But Rubio has promised to his supporters that will NEVER happen again:

That says something about him. And with another debate coming up Saturday night, he will have the opportunity to make good on that promise. That there will be fewer people up on that state should help, too, though I am very sorry to see Carly Fiorina go. Christie not so much, but good that the field is winnowing down some.

We have lost some good candidates as a result of this inexplicable Trumpmania, and I hope some of them give it another go down the road. But that is just some of the fallout from New Hampshire. Next up for the Republicans, South Carolina. Can’t wait to see what happens here!

That’s it for me. This is an Open Thread.




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20 Responses to “The Fallout From NH Continues *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I could, would, hold my nose and vote for Rubio. I just don’t trust him and he’s way too cozy with McCain for my comfort.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I appreciate your concerns abt Rubio, Marge – truly. BUt yeah, I would vote for him, too.

    • mcnorman Says:

      Sadly, I have to tell you that I will vote for anyone other than a Dem. Whatever is on the GOP ticket gets my vote. I know a lot of people like myself. We will hold our noses and run through that booth with a vote against the Dems.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        We all have to do what we think is right. I can understand how you came to your decision.

        However I happen to think that voting for Trump is the same as voting for a Dem so I won’t. The man who likes to make “deals” will IMHO, make deals that will make the ones by Ryan and Boehner look good by contrast. That’s the reasoning behind my decision.

        And as I said, I can understand how you got to where you are.

      • mcnorman Says:

        For me, voting anti Dem is plain ole therapy without drugs. LOL

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    The panel on “Special Report” last night mentioned Cruz’s remark about expecting them to make as big a deal abut his 3rd place finish as they did about Rubio coming in 3rd. (I’m paraphrasing here)

    Stephan Hayes was surprisingly positive about Cruz as was Fournier. I nearly fell over. Baier and Krauthammer on the other hand seemed more defensive. Krauthammer said that FOX gets blamed no matter what. Seemed a tad whiney to me.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I was surprised by how snarky Baier was regarding Cruz’s comment. Cruz made a GREAT point, though – his win was overshadowed by the non-stop praise of Rubio, and the surprise that Donald didn’t finish first. He got VERY little air time as a result of his victory, NOTHING like what Trump is getting.

      And Hayes is right – it was STUNNING that Cruz came in third having spent to little time and money in NH. Add to that we keep hearing they aren’t his people (and Kasich apparently got a number of Dem votes), so yeah – they SHOULD be talking abt it.

      Fox deserves a lot of blame. They talk abt Trump, and have him on, all the time. It is beyond tiresome…

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Don’t sleep on Ted Cruz. The next five weeks look very, very good for him.

    Cruz’s win in the Iowa caucuses last week was, as it has been for every recent GOP Iowa winner, heavily reliant on evangelical Christians. He over-performed among this group, beating Trump 34-22 among them.

    Two points here. The first is that, yes, Iowa is a very evangelical state, and not every state — read: New Hampshire — has the same makeup. In fact, New Hampshire is the least religious state in the country, according to Gallup, and PRRI reports only about 1 in 10 residents is an evangelical.

    From the Washington Post of all places. An honest assessment of the man they hate even more than Trump? Amazing!

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Trump Lets Slip ‘We’re Going to Keep’ Common Core

    Wow, a flip flop in one speech. Is that a record?

    I tend to think that Amanda Carpenter from CNN had it right: “Sure, I believe Trump is still against Common Core. But I don’t think he knows what Common Core is or how to get rid of it. ”

    Does his brain ever have a clue what his mouth is gonna say? Not that his supporters care. But maybe some time soon some of them may realize that a Real Estate Mogul may not know jack about running a country.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good grief. You have got to be kidding me. But of course he flip flopped in one speech – but you are right. His supporters won’t care one whit.

      And yeah – Carpenter is likely right…

  5. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Oops – totally forgot to mention that there is a Democratic debate on tonight. It airs on PBS at 9:00pm EST.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Oh what a shame – I have clothes to fold and then I’m watching SG1 on my Amazon Prime, starting with season one. That should take me some time. Maybe a week or two.

      Besides we know they’ll just be trying to out-progressive each other. I give Sander this, at least he’s consistent and authentic. I don’t like socialism or socialists but at least he’s an honest one.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        LOL, yeah, right there with you. I have all kinds of things to do besides watching those two.

        And true – Sanders does not shy away from wanting to fundamentally change our nation and speaking out abt it. So, yeah, there is that. 🙂

        Great cartoon – that says it all!

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