Spoiler(s) Alert – Super Tuesday Roundup *Open Thread*

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Super Tuesday has come and gone, and no doubt you know that Trump took more than a few states, though it was close in a number of them, like Virginia.

And that brings me to my first Spoiler. That would be Gov. John Kasich. Both he and Dr. Carson need to get the hell out of the race already and stop siphoning off votes from the two men who actually have a chance of beating Donald Trump. But Kasich intentionally targeted Virgina, and as The Hill highlights, may have cost Sen. Rubio a win over Trump there:

[…]

And he will likely face even more pressure from establishment forces to withdraw, especially considering that Rubio plausibly could have beaten Trump in Virginia had it not been for the Ohio governor’s presence in the race. Trump’s margin of victory over Rubio in the commonwealth was just 3 points, and Kasich won 9 percent of the votes cast.

Kasich has fought an optimistic campaign, but he’s running out of road. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Exactly. He is running out of road and he is taking down the two other frontrunners with him, as is Dr. Carson. Those two Spoilers need to hit the road and now.

But the real Spoiler is Donald Trump himself. He is revealing himself in ways he may not mean to do, though considering how lax the media has been in vetting him (at least during this process – that will likely change should he become the GOP nominee).

One revelation is stunning, and comes via a Federalist piece, “If Trumps Wins The Nomination, I Won’t Vote.” Frankly, this is HUGE, and speaks volumes about how tone deaf Trump’s supporters are to what he actually says. From the Conservative Review:

 

[…]

“You’re describing Donald Trump,” the billionaire businessman said.

“Actually, I was describing Bernie Sanders,” Brzezinski replied.

It may be a reasonable mistake for Mr. Trump. Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump both oppose free trade, both support government-funded healthcare, and both support federal funding for Planned Parenthood. They have both at one time supported a ban on “assault weapons,” they both want to restrict free speech by outlawing Super PACs, they both supported the 2008 auto bailout, and both attacked the Paul Ryan budget as rewarding the wealthy at the expense of low-income Americans.

Trump acknowledged the similarities, but insisted that Sanders won’t be able to accomplish anything, whereas Mr. Trump is “going to do things.” (Click here to read the rest.)

Yes, you read that right: Donald Trump confused HIS policies with the policies of DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST, Bernie Sanders.

Oh, but wait – there is more. As it turns out, all of that hot air about deporting millions of illegal immigrants was a big ol’ crock. That is not what Trump REALLY believes at all. He was called on comments he secretly made to the NY Times about Immigration, and has had to confess where he REALLY stands on Immigration. Turns out, his stance is the same as – wait for it – MARCO RUBIO’S. Yep. From Politico via Legal Insurrection (h/t Kenoshamarge):

[…]

“We had a board meeting [at the New York Times], it was off-the-record, suddenly they leak it, it’s all over the place,” Trump said.

“They said it’s negotiable on the wall,” Hannity said in reference to Trump’s stance on Mexican immigration and his oft-stated promise to build a border wall.

“By the way it is negotiable. Things are negotiable,” Trump said. “I’ll make the wall 2 feet shorter or something.”

Trump was quick to add that the negotiation does not include nixing the idea altogether.

“Building it? Not negotiable.”

“Would it be negotiable about the 11 million?” Hannity pressed. “Maybe let some people stay if they register in a period of time?”

“I would say this,” Trump added, “we will work out some system that’s fair, but we either have a country or we don’t. We need a border. We need a wall.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Jonathan Levin from Legal Insurrection made this observation:

[…]

This should be causing Trump supporters cognitive dissonance.  After all, he shot to prominence early in the race by taking the most aggressive possible stance on immigration.  Now he is backpedaling to the exact same position as his reviled Gang of Eight competitor, Marco Rubio. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Uh, yeah – it SHOULD be causing Trump supporters “cognitive dissonance,” if they actually cared what Trump said. Just today I saw someone call another site a “liar” for REPEATING WHAT TRUMP SAID. I am not kidding you. That is the mindset with which we are dealing. Right there. That. Stunning. Just stunning.

Oh, but wait. SPOILER ALERT: Wanna guess who benefits from Trump’s China policy, and who is hurt by it? You can probably guess, but I’ll tell you: The rich gain, the poor and middle class lose. Those of us who can do MATH knew this already, but here is the proof straight out of the mouth of a Trump endorser, Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY).  From The Federalist:

[…]

Leaving aside for a moment the undeniable legal, political, and economic hurdles to unilaterally imposing a 45 percent tariff on all Chinese imports, as well as the utter gibberish at the end of Collins’ response about inflation and the federal budget (seriously, I have no idea), let’s take the plan at face value. According to Team Trump, their import tax would (i) force American consumers to pay 10 to 15 percent more for food, clothing, shoes, electronics, and other basic necessities; and (ii) thereby assist American manufacturing companies and their workers.

Put another way, Team Trump has now freely admitted they want to indirectly subsidize U.S. manufacturers via higher prices that American families and businesses would be forced to pay for these domestic producers’ goods.

This is a wonderful admission—one I don’t think Trump himself has made yet—and I applaud Collins for both his honesty and for revealing the blatant immortality of Trump’s plan. For starters, given that the average American household spends about $11,000 on food, clothing, and other similar items each year, a 10 to 15 percent tax on these goods translates to an extra $1,100 to $1,650 per year that American families would have to spend under President Trump for the same stuff that they’re consuming right now—money they could have saved, invested, or spent on other important necessities like housing or health care. […] (Click here to read more of this revealing piece.)

In case you didn’t already know this, one more Spoiler Alert for you: Trump is a fraud, a liar, a con man (as Rubio says), and dangerous. You don’t have to take MY word for it, though, just take his.

And that is why, along with people like James Devereaux at The Federalist, Trump will NEVER get my vote. Never.

What about you? This is an Open Thread.

 

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23 Responses to “Spoiler(s) Alert – Super Tuesday Roundup *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    Now that Super Tuesday is over it seems that the thug with the orange hair underperformed. Don’t get me wrong he took the majority of states but many of the Trumpkins were predicting he would “run the table”. Well that didn’t happen. Some were saying he would take Texas from Cruz and send Cruz home with his tail between his legs – that didn’t happen either.

    Some of the Trump apologizers are saying after his speech last night that he’s going to clean up his act and behave like a leader instead of a school yard bully. I hope they hold their breath. He is what he is. Being quiet and reasonable isn’t his shtick.

    Now I’m wondering, if in the long run, we won’t be trying to figure out which, rich, New York liberal we will vote for. I’ve already made up my mind – none of the above, er, below.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOL – great cartoon – that’s abt the size of it!

      Uh, sure – Trump is going to be more “Presidential” all of a sudden, just like he said he wasn’t going to cuss anymore then used the f-bomb five times. He got away with that using his standard MO kind of thing of saying HE wasn’t saying it, someone ELSE was saying it. He is a loud mouthed bully – he will never be anything BUT that. He has been that his entire life, so why would he really change NOW??

      YES – I seem to remember just MONDAY they were saying the Quinnipiac (sp?) poll had Donald leading Cruz in a big way in Texas. Not so much. And Rubio almost took Virginia, with the difference being quite small. He didn’t run the tables, that’s for sure, and still only has 315 delegates. Seems to me he needs over 900+ more, so why is he being proclaimed the Nominee already?! There are many more states to go yet…

      Great comment!

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Our gal Mollie Hemingway wrote a good piece at the Federalist too Rev.

    7 Quick Takeaways From Super Tuesday Primary Results

    By Mollie Hemingway

    But it’s clear we have much more to learn about who is supporting and who is not supporting Trump. To that end, note the results for the precinct where Liberty University is. School president Jerry Falwell had endorsed Trump, to the dismay of many other evangelicals.

    Well, Trump appeared to place fourth there. Rubio had 44 percent, Cruz had 33 percent, Ben Carson had 14 percent, and Trump had only 8 percent.

    A friend said, “There’s revolution afoot,” saying that passionate and fed-up Trump supporters are going with the French Revolution approach while the principled conservatives are going the American Revolution approach. This is what makes this election so exciting, and precipitous.

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/02/7-quick-takeaways-from-super-tuesday-primary-results/

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Once again, excellent commentary from Hemingway.

      Sadly, her friend is right. These Trump supporters don’t give a damn abt the things he says, no matter how much the statements conflict with their own positions like the ones listed above.

      Heck, they even brushing off the whole Duke/KKK thing as a non-issue, including just this morning. I suggested they employ a tool Sharyl Attkisson uses routinely: flip it around. If Hillary Clinton refused three times to disavow David Duke and then acted as if she had NO idea what “white supremacy” meant, how would they react? I think we all know the answer to that – they would be howling up a STORM abt it.

      But since it was Trump? Meh…

      I am so disturbed by where we are in this country now…

      • piper Says:

        Also disturbed by the people who want Trump to be our next president and are following the Obama borg meme by vilifying and belittling anyone who ‘dares’ to say anything negative about their sainted king

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          It is frightening, piper – the very people who decried this behavior by Obots are engaging in the same kind of behavior. But they should KNOW better, which is why it is even more disturbing. Wow…

  3. piper Says:

    Again stating a conspiracy theory running thru the ole knockin here, blaming my thoughts on shoveling 4.5 inches several times due to high winds and drifting – how many crossover votes were there for Drumpf from democrats assuming that he would be the weaker of the GOP candidates insuring a Hillary win. According to a Facebook friend Drumpf is the correct spelling of Donald’s last name

    “As it turns out, it doesn’t mean anything, but its close relative Trumpf does! According to Google Translate, trumpf is German for “trump card,” which is a noun that refers to the game of bridge, originally — and other card games — where a playing card of a particular suit ranks above other suits, which can win a trick. It also is used to mean a valuable resource that one can use, particularly as a surprise, in order to gain an advantage.” (Bustle.com)

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Democrats definitely voted in the Republican primary here in SC, no doubt abt it. Hence why the numbers were down for the Dem. Primary. They knew Hillary had it int he bag, and they would MUCH rather have her go up against Trump than Rubio or Cruz.

      Interesting abt Trump’s family changing the name, huh? Kinda ruins that whole brand appeal when his old name is used, doesn’t it?

      Uh, yeah…

  4. Anthony Says:

    Saw Bill Kristol on Morning Joe this morning, acting something like this:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Cannot stand Bill Kristol. Disliking Trump doesn’t make me like the damn establishment pundidiots. Watch, if Trump keeps winning the establishment will fall in line behind him lest the man they have hated far more and far long, Ted Cruz win.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      That scary Trump face scared me so much I forgot to say. Hi Anthony, nice to “see” ya.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        LOL, I totally understand, Marge – it scared me, too!

        And yes, very nice to *see* you, Anthony! I was rushing to get out of the house to take a couple of animals to the vet (one for a booster and another who isn’t feeling well), thus not taking adequate time to greet you. Hey! 🙂

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          How is the animal who wasn’t feeling well? All better now?

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Thanks so much for asking. They took some blood and urine, and are going to make sure her kidneys are functioning well (though she is definitely hydrated, which is good), but also to check for hyperthyroidism and diabetes. She is a Senior cat – 12 1/2, and TINY – only 6.8 lbs. She is the sweetest little cat. We are just worried abt her because she has been having diarrhea and vomiting some bile. But she has a great appetite, drinks lots of water, is playful (she is out on the breezeway now meowing her special meow for her favorite toy – a string we trimmed from the blinds – ALL of the cats are crazy for those strings, which we tied together for them. Crazy cats…). I’ll see if I have a good photo of Punkin’ to post here.

          Here she is:

          DSC_0034

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    REPORT: Ben Carson to Skip Thursday’s Debate

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/03/02/report-ben-carson-to-skip-thursdays-debate-n2127786

    It is being reported by the Washington Post but if it isn’t true, if Carson is just going home to do some laundry, it’s all Ted Cruz’s fault.

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Just like in SC, Dems crossed over. Consider this – 60,000 Dems voted in VA. Rubio lost to Trump by a VERY narrow margin. Assuming most of these Dems went for Trump so he would match up against Clinton, Rubio did even better than expected:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/amazing-60000-democrats-voted-in-virginia-republican-primary/

  7. foxyladi14 Says:

    Good morning dear friends.
    I apologize for not spending more time here, Getting blinder by the day.
    I go back to Doctor next week,
    Meanwhile sending much love and best wishes to everyone. ❤

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, bless your heart, Foxy! I am sorry to hear that. I do hope the doctor can help you next week!

      Sending prayers and love your way!!

  8. foxyladi14 Says:

    Thanks Amy. I know you have the great healer on speed dial. 😀

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