Me, My Conscience and I *Open Thread *


Sometimes politics boils down to just having a talk with your conscience. At long last it does for me. For many years as a Democrat I silenced that voice again and again to do what I thought, what I believed, what I was told was the best thing for my country. Loving my country I could do nothing less than vote against the bad people and for the not quite as bad people.

On May 31st of 2008 that baloney came to a screeching halt. Because my conscience refused to be silent. It got up on it’s high horse and refused to go along to get along. It refused to join in the cheating that the Democrat Party was doing to make Barack Obama their nominee. It doesn’t matter to me that subsequent actions of the woman I was defending and voted for showed her to be dishonest and corrupt. Benghazi and the e-mail scandal were still in the future. The attempted destruction of this woman by both her party and the media was wrong. So I stopped being a Democrat.

This crisis of conscience refused to allow me to become a Republican. Many of the things they “said” they stood for were a more comfortable fit for me than the Democrat Party had ever been. But having watched them through the Bush years I was all too well aware that what they said and what they did weren’t even close. Just like the Democrats.

So I became an Independent. A lot of good that does you because for your vote to matter you still have to vote for either a Republican or a Democrat or your vote doesn’t matter. For some just the fact of voting is enough. Vote Green or Libertarian or write in. It just didn’t work that way for me. I was a woman on a mission – a woman in search of people I could actually vote for without holding my nose.

I voted for McCain/Palin as a vote against Obama. I honestly thought Sarah Palin was better than she turned out to be. Conscience lets me get away with that if I was just wrong. That isn’t a choice I would make on purpose. I did find a a few people I could vote for happily. Scott Walker for one and Ron Johnson for another.

I did end up voting for Romney/Ryan in 2012 without holding my nose but without a lot of enthusiasm. Romney is a nice man and would make a decent president in my opinion. He just didn’t make me feel at all inspired. Nor did Ryan. I thought he did the best in congress as the head of  the Ways and Means Committee. I still do. But no nose holding was needed. And no win was achieved either.

I can’t/won’t vote for the Democrats until they do some serious house cleaning in their party – a thing that I don’t expect to happen anytime soon. And the Republicans? Where’s the fire, where’s the inspiration, where’s the enthusiasm? I’m sorry I asked that because the most enthusiasm around is for a boorish vulgarian I wouldn’t support as street cleaner.

I was a Scott Walker supporter and then he dropped out. I was a Carly Fiorina supporter and she could get no traction. I drifted and finally settled on Ted Cruz because he alone seemed to have remembered the people that elected him once he got to Washington D.C. He’s the smartest of the bunch, which isn’t always enough, he’s a strict constitutionalist, he wants to stab ObamaCare to death and he isn’t liked by the GOP establishment or the media. Those things tell me that he’s probably as close to what I want in a candidate as I’m gonna get. At least this time around. Don’t get me wrong, I like Ted Cruz. But I never fall in love with a politician. Never.

Ted Cruz isn’t perfect by my or anyone else’s standards. But I honestly believe that he is as close to being a man of his word as any politician ever gets.

I could, and would hold my nose and vote for Rubio or Kasich. I don’t like Kasich and I don’t trust Rubio after his playing party cake with the Gang of Eight. But neither is so bad a man as to make my conscience smack me around.

Then there’s Trump. This time around my conscience says “oh no you don’t”. This time my conscience says no and means it. This time my conscience is not going to be bullied, persuaded or guilted into casting my vote for someone I loathe and despise.  There isn’t a clothes pin large enough to make me vote for someone who is so far from all the things I believe are right and good.

Donald Trump may well become the Republican nominee. Cruz has all ready gotten further than I ever thought he would. The media and the establishment did their best to destroy him and I thought it was enough to make him unelectable.

Those same people that mutter about not letting the media choose their candidates for them had allowed the media to make a pariah out of Ted Cruz. They were silent, for the most part, as the media did their best to take down the man that came to the Senate, against the wishes of his party’s elites and with the determination to do what the voters sent him there to do. Media relentlessly sliced and diced him and those “media” haters were silent.

Is he Saint Ted? No, of course he’s not. However he is far superior to the vulgarian that talks about his man parts during a television debate.

Besides, my conscience says I can’t vote for any more bad people. And I don’t know how they get much worse than Donald Trump.

Hillary? Bernie? I see them as equally bad. Her party is having enough problems in choosing between a septuagenarian socialist and a woman who is nearly universally regarded as a blatant liar. Not a problem for her in my estimation – the Dems will vote for her anyway. But my conscience won’t let me. I’m content with that.


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18 Responses to “Me, My Conscience and I *Open Thread *”

  1. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Excellent, excellent post, Marge. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts abt this election with us. As always, you absolutely NAILED the issues at hand.


  2. insanitybytes22 Says:

    Well said, Rev Amy. It’s tough to have a conscience in the political world, isn’t it? It’s not like we can vote for integrity and honor or something, it’s almost always going to be a vote for the lesser of evils.

    I do wish people would stop voting for a one night stand, the candidate they fancy themselves in love with, and start thinking critically instead. Maybe if we did that, we’d stop having these political affairs that always feel like a romance gone wrong. I’ve won some friends (not) by telling some Trump supporters, “knock it off, he’s not your boyfriend.”

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Couldn’t agree more about the “one night stand, the candidate they fancy themselves in love with”. How in the world can anyone fall in love with a politician? Even the best of them?

      Good line to Trump supporters even though in my experience talking to them is the same as talking to an Obama supporter. At least we can say we tried.

  3. insanitybytes22 Says:

    Ha! Well that comment above is for Marge. 😉

  4. piper Says:

    Excellent response – you said everything that was floating around in my senior brain.
    Once more – I find it interesting that Drumpf wins in open primaries and Cruz wins in closed primaries. How much is due to unions’ influence or heavy handedness, picking the weaker candidate to run against Madam in the general.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Thanks Piper, it has been floating around in my senior brain too.

      Sometime it makes it’s way out in a way that is reasonably sensible. Other times it’s just aarrgg!

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    My conscience would allow me to support this…

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    10 Reasons Americans Are Voting For A Socialist

    In many cases, Bernie Sanders may actually be a rational (progressive voter’s) choice.

    Voters Should Matter:

    The Democratic National Committee initially scheduled very few debates and chose the most inconvenient times possible. You were bothered by the thought of a Clinton coronation. Bernie looks like a small-budget indie movie next to Clinton’s blockbuster, overstuffed with celebrity cameos (e.g., Lena Dunham, Amy Schumer), meant to distract from a disappointing plot about Debbie Wasserman Schultz choosing your next nominee.

    Evidently the Dem voters are as angry as the GOP voters and just as willing to vote for someone they at least find “authentic”. Of course we cannot, as always count on the media, that is supposed to serve the people to tell us all about this.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It just amazes me that people find Sanders to be “authentic” and all that. Well, I guess he is – but to me, he is an authentic whackadoodle. Ahem.

      And what the hell do DEMS have to be angry about anyway?? They have CONTINUED to get every damn thing they have wanted. Reid continues his obstruction and Obama continues his vetoes, so they have no reason to be mad. Unless they just want more free stuff paid for by people who work for a living.


      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I agree with thinking he’s a whackadoodle. But he’s an honest whackadoodle. He unlike the Hillary liar actually believes the nonsense he spouts. There by proving he’s a whackadoodle.

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    BREAKING NEWS: As I suspected, Fiorina is endorsing Sen. Ted Cruz:

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Let us not forget that Trump claims he will restore respect for the USA around the world:

  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Oh, this is too rich. It seems the FBI under Comey is actually doing its job, much to the dismay of the Obama White House.From The Hill:

    The aggressive posture of the FBI under Director James Comey is becoming a political problem for the White House.

    The FBI’s demand that Apple help unlock an iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino killers has outraged Silicon Valley, a significant source of political support for President Obama and Democrats.

    Comey, meanwhile, has stirred tensions by linking rising violent crime rates to the Black Lives Matter movement’s focus on police violence and by warning about “gaps” in the screening process for Syrian refugees. (Emphasis mine.)

    Then there’s the biggest issue of all: the FBI’s investigation into the private email server used by Hillary Clinton, Obama’s former secretary of State and the leading contender to win the Democratic presidential nomination.

    A decision by the FBI to charge Clinton or her top aides for mishandling classified information would be a shock to the political system.

    Holy moley, huh?

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Preet Bharara and James Comey seem to be two of the few, honest members of our government. If there are others, and I’m sure there are, it’s time for them to stand up and be counted. NO more free passes by reason of politics. If we are a nation of law then the law must pertain to everyone. No more and no less.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Exactly. What a concept, huh? Thank heavens that Comey is one of the honest ones in the position he is in…

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