What Was She Thinking? *Open Thread*


Hillary Clinton is by all reports a smart woman. Perhaps not as smart as she thinks she is, but smart all the same. Which makes me wonder why a smart woman would say something so stupid as the following:

Could Hillary’s Coal Comments Hurt Her Swing State Chances? 

“We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” Clinton said, in response to the question: “Make the case to poor whites who vote Republican why they should vote for you and your economic policies.”

We’ve got to move away from coal and fossil fuels, but not the people who worked to produce energy with those resources, she insisted.

Yeah, I’m not following either.

One social media user noted that Clinton’s jarring comments are likely to threaten her support in key swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia, where coal is still an important industry.


Surely there was another way, a better way to get her point across. Wasn’t there? What kind of a fool says right up front that she’s on a course to kill jobs? Did she hit her head again?

One of the things we’ve heard   about Clinton is that she is not a good campaigner. Some people have the “show biz” gene that makes them good on the stump. She’s married to a man who was one of the best. Not as good any more but in his prime? None better. Hillary doesn’t seem to have the gene.

People who know her well say that one on one or in small groups she is warm and personable. That doesn’t come through on the campaign trail. Having to constantly answer for the e-mail scandal that she created and then made worse with her dishonesty doesn’t help her. Or make it easy to seem at ease. She’s lucky that the media is and always has protected her and Obama from the Benghazi tragedy.

Then there are the so-called “bimbo-eruptions” from her spouse with the “open-fly” policy. Some can excuse his behavior and think he’s quite the “dog”. Others might wonder about the women that didn’t want to play in his playpen. Women that said NO loud and clear and were not listened to. Then Miz Hillary, the fighter for women, got into the fight – on Bubba’s side and smeared the women who dared to complain.

For some women who still think that no means no and that morals are important, Bill isn’t so much a ‘secret weapon’ as some in the Clinton campaign had imagined as an “open” problem. The wheels are coming off and all that saves them is the fact that a majority of Dems will vote for her anyway. Independents? Probably not as much.

Why would Republicans jump into her polluted mud puddle when they have one of their own to play in.

A large majority of people do not consider her honest or trustworthy. The fact of the matter is that a large majority of people do not consider any politician honest or trustworthy. She’s just convinced them she’s worse than the norm. Considering what they think of as “the norm” being considered worse is not a good place to be. All they can do is pray the voters find the other guy worse.

Most of us have a very low opinion of politicians. And they’ve worked hard to earn that low opinion. The so-called outsiders are no such thing but that doesn’t keep people who are sick and tired of being sick and tired from flocking to them.

Then Hillary added insult to injury by flubbing a question from a woman that is a Democrat, voted Democrat and wants to vote Democrat again. But her family income is being devastated by ObamaCare.  Hillary to the rescue right? Wrong.

Hillary’s Terrible Answer on Rising Obamacare Costs

On several occasions, Hillary tells this struggling woman that while her story is a shame, she’s heard competing anecdotes from other people about how well the law is working for them.  While it’s certainly true that Obamacare has benefited some consumers, poll after poll has shown that the number of people who’ve been actively harmed by the law outpaces beneficiaries by a sizable margin.  Democrats foisted a $2 trillion healthcare experiment upon the country that violates the core promises they offered during the national debate.  Cherrypicking positive stories and ignoring overt failures does not change reality.  And how do other people’s experiences help this woman?


For those of us that are watching the Republican primary in horror there is some small satisfaction in seeing that the Dems are having as bad a time as the GOP. Media isn’t reporting about it as much but corrupt and biased media is a story for another post.

If a country gets the government it deserves then I think we the people need to do some very serious soul searching.


38 Responses to “What Was She Thinking? *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    Evidently Hillary agrees with the Obama White House and it’s philosophy.

  2. foxyladi14 Says:

    Applause Marge. You nailed it thanks. 🙂

  3. foxyladi14 Says:

    I refuse to lose friends or family over Politics.
    They are just to precious to me.
    My oldest son is for Hill.
    My grandkids are for Bernie.
    SMH. :facepalm:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I prefer to cut people from my life when we no longer have anything in common. I’ve lost some old friends but gained some wonderful new ones. It all works out in the end.

      If we don’t share the same values then I’m not much interested in sharing anything else. My values are just too precious to me.

      • foxyladi14 Says:

        I hope you have not cut me out Marge I love and respect you and your views.
        We do agree on so many other things. ❤

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    Ted Cruz shuts down animal rights protester

    Animal rights protester tries to disrupt Cruz rally. Cruz makes point of saying she was allowed to speak,escorted out w/out violence


  6. kenoshamarge Says:

  7. foxyladi14 Says:

    For those voting machines today.
    Watch and make sure that your vote does NOT change before you complete voting.
    If it changes your vote
    Report it and get a paper ballot.

  8. piper Says:

    Another rainy day here in Wisconsin which isn’t helping my mood at all. Still smh at some of my fav blogs swinging to Trump by either justifying his behavior / words or somehow stating how good it is that he is bringing more people over to the GOP side with their votes. Yes more people have voted in the primaries but how many are crossover votes?????? and won’t vote for him in the general.

    • foxyladi14 Says:

      We are supposed to get some bad storms later Piper.
      And that lawn that was covered in show has green grass growing.
      My kid is getting the mower ready. 🙂

    • piper Says:

      Also a bit sad that both Deapster and you are no longer commenting over at NoQuarter. It seems that the Trumpsters have taken over there.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Yeah it’s become just another Trump Swamp. Not interested in interacting with the people that now infest the site. Actually leaving has been good for both my mood and my blood pressure.

        I’ve cleaned out my “favorites” list and any Trump Swamp has been deleted thus reducing the outrage.

        And the rainy weather hasn’t helped my mood either.

        This remains one of the few islands of sanity around.

        • piper Says:

          Agree and understand. I’m still to invested in politics and need to find another outlet to reduce my tension and check my feelings about the current fiasco. I’m having difficulty understanding how many good people can suddenly find Donald Trump as the best person to lead our country. So much is hype, sound bites and insults that doesn’t show me that he is a leader especially someone who can actually govern yet people are falling all over themselves praising him to the hilt and defending him based on what??????

          For the first time ever I will sit this presidential election out but will definitely vote down ticket to ensure that certain people will retain their seats both county and statewide.

          • kenoshamarge Says:

            If Trump is the nominee I’ll do the same thing. I particularly want to vote against Russ Feingold and for Ron Johnson. If Johnson did nothing else in 6 years getting Hillary to say “at this point what difference does it matter” was worth voting for him.

            Losing Deapster was a big loss. She was the smartest poster, had more first hand knowledge from all her travels and still said, over and over, that she would vote for the S.O.B. Trump, her words as a vote against Hillary. I respect her decision because it is and was a thoughtful, knowledgeable one.

          • foxyladi14 Says:

            Watch Congress.
            I predict the D’s will gain a lot of seats In both houses. 🙂

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            Great post, Marge! We had Fox on long enough to see the results and we’re just horrified. I cannot believe, with all the good people available, so many are going for Trump. It boggles the mind.

            I caught a moment in which Stephen Hayes was speaking to Baier abt the incredibly high unlike ability of both Clinton AND Trump, along with th high numbers of us who will NOT vote of him. He said a third party candidate is not out of the question, to which Baier made some snarky response that that would be handing the election to Teump. Hayes said not necessarily.

            What Baier fails to accept is that having Trump as the nominees hands it to Clinton, which they knew all along when Bill suggested Trump run.

            Meanwhile, a friend had up a report of what happens at Trump rallies. He repeats himself numerous times, we all build the best wall ever, who is going to pay for it? The people yell, “Mexico!” And on like that it goes. He just gets them into a fevered pitch by saying very little at all. He speaks at a fourth grade level yet smart people are buying this redundant, um, rabble rousing (!) incitement. I do not get it.

            And Rubio has finally dropped out. He better ask his people to go Cruz to take Trump down…

  9. foxyladi14 Says:

    Yes she said this. 👿


  10. foxyladi14 Says:

    Popping corn for my babies outside.
    I saw a Squirrel on the picnic table shaking his fist and yelling.
    Where is my breakfast? :lol;

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    Ben Carson: I’m Promised a Spot in Trump Administration

    Dr. Ben Carson revealed on Newsmax TV Monday that he will work in Donald Trump’s administration — at least in an “advisory capacity” — if the Republican presidential front-runner is elected to the White House.


    No quid pro quo there? No something for something? Thank goodness this is an outsider playing the nasty politics game and not one of those terrible people that have held office before. This “non politician” sure learned how to play the politics game well didn’t he.

    • piper Says:

      Ben has definitely shown his true colors with a promise of a position in ???? Trump cabinet. But promises can also be nothing more than words unlikely to be fulfilled

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Such a sell out. Cannot believe I thought he was a decent and honorable man…

  12. foxyladi14 Says:

    Way past that stage of like 🙂


  13. mcnorman Says:

    HRC will say anything to win this time around. It’s actually very pathetic but politics is what it is…lots of lying.

    • piper Says:

      So true! 😉

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Politics is what it is and will continue to be since no matter who we elect they lie to us. So even when we throw the bums out we elect more lying bums. A sad and pathetic cycle.

      • foxyladi14 Says:

        Exactly Marge.
        They start out with good intentions.
        But when they get to DC and start swimming in that corrupt ion,All those good intentions get forgotten. 👿

  14. mcnorman Says:

    You know, HRC should be happy uncle Soros has funded her so well so far.

    Soros’s biggest contribution this year is a total of $7 million to Priorities USA, the main super-PAC supporting Clinton.


    • kenoshamarge Says:

      You have to wonder why so much money is needed? She’s certainly the best known candidate so it isn’t to make her better know to the public.

      Will most Democrats vote for her? Or will the Bernie voters stay home? Her money certainly hasn’t served her will with them.

      I believe, correct me if I’m wrong, Hillary and her contributors and Jeb Bush and his have spent the most money. One is gone and one is constantly in trouble. Does this mean that those with the most money no longer rule? I wish it did.

      Trump doesn’t’ need to spend very much because the media gives him free ads all the time. Not always positive ones but his supporters don’t care.

      • mcnorman Says:

        I don’t know why HRC would need that amount of money plus all the money that Move On uses to help BLM and the rest of those of questionable repute?

        What I do understand from the local politics is that we have become a nation where the average citizen has no say any longer Those that can afford to pay to play get whatever they want. That is what has made me so sad these last few years. The reality of the US having become so much like the phony democracies of South America has been a real eye opener.

      • mcnorman Says:


        • kenoshamarge Says:

          Funny you should mention that…

          Trump has scored nearly $2 billion in free media coverage

          Mr. Trump earned $400 million worth of free media last month, about what John McCain spent on his entire 2008 presidential campaign. Paul Senatori, mediaQuant’s chief analytics officer, says that Mr. Trump “has no weakness in any of the media segments” — in other words, he is strong in every type of earned media, from television to Twitter.

          Over the course of the campaign, he has earned close to $2 billion worth of media attention, about twice the all-in price of the most expensive presidential campaigns in history. It is also twice the estimated $746 million that Hillary Clinton, the next best at earning media, took in. Senator Bernie Sanders has earned more media than any of the Republicans except Mr. Trump.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      A friend had in Facebook that Soros is funding Kasich, too…Breitbart has it, FWIW…

  15. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Marge, thank you again so, so much for minding the store and for the great post! We were in Chacabuco yesterday, and are at sea for two days going through the fjords. I learned that this region of Patagonia is the second largest producer of oxygen on the planet. How cool is that??

    Next stop, Punto Arenas and Magellanic penguins. Miss y’all!

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Miss you so much too! I must find the heart to write about all the Trump wins last night. It is difficult.

      Hope you are having a wonderful time. It has been my pleasure to post a little for you.

      Next the penguins? I have sooper-dooper penguin envy. Enjoy you lucky gals.

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