Threats, Facts, Censorship, and Big Day *Open Thread*


Megyn Kelly doesn’t just cover the news. Sometimes she makes the news as she did in the first Republican debate when she asked an actual question of Donald Trump. And she has has to deal with that one question (among others) ever since.

This veteran journalist and attorney discussed that moment, among many others, in a comprehensive interview with Charlie Rose. One of the most disconcerting revelations she made, though, was the threats that have come her way  since then. I hope you can watch this interview in its entirety:

Kelly said exactly what I thought she would say about the threats – her worry that they will occur when she is with her children. Her husband had something to say about that, too.

But there was another poignant moment in this interview. That was her reaction to Bill O’Reilly not defending her when Trump was attacking her. Uh, yeah. Kelly was very honest about the enabling of Trump by Fox News by having him on just about every day.

As for Trump’s claim that HE was responsible for Kelly’s ratings, it sure would have been nice had someone at Fox noted to Trump that Kelly was doing plenty well on her own.

That Trump is trying to take credit for her success just highlights his misogyny, arrogance, ego-mania, and lack of facts he employs. But hey – according to his new surrogate, Dr. Carson, facts don’t matter to Trump supporters. No, seriously – he made that point clear in what was presumably intended to be a support piece (via Mediate, h/t Facebook friend), here is an excerpt of an Op-Ed in Independent Journal:

[…]  The mobilization game is what Trump is hoping will overcome strong establishment resistance to his candidacy coming from both the right and the left. He is making an appeal directly to the American people in a language they can all understand; whether they may agree or disagree, there is no ambiguity about where Trump stands. It should be repeated: nuance, intellectual snobbery, equivocation and pleading to reason and decency will have absolutely no effect on the electorate this time around. This election is about winning over the hearts and souls of the American people, not their minds. (Emphasis mine) At the end of the day, whoever appeals most directly to the American people’s sense of dissatisfaction and unease will win the contest.

The American people desperately want a win – and they are not overly concerned about how they get it. Trump has been the best so far at expressing that desire, as evidenced on his positions on everything from foreign policy, to torture, to social security. He does not force his voters to make a choice based on rational constraints. He promises to deliver everything, and why, well – because he said so is why. (Emphasis mine.) And that boldness, even in the face of seemingly immutable realities such as the national debt, America’s shrinking military footprint, and even the laws themselves – seems to offer fresh hope for people who feel hemmed in and constrained by the status quo. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Um, are we SURE Dr. Carson is writing in SUPPORT of Trump, or are these not-so-thinly-veiled put downs of both Trump AND his supporters? I mean, really – they don’t use reason or intellect (their minds), and facts don’t matter (as Mediaite noted). Well, golly – that doesn’t exactly sounds like a ringing endorsement to ME, but then again – I use my mind AND I care about facts, so there ya go. Hence why I am not a Trump supporter. And he reminds me WAY too much of Obama.

Speaking of, one of the ways Obama and Trump are very much alike is in their efforts to silence dissent. Trump prefers threats and bullying, whereas Obama apparently prefers downright censorship. Of a World Leader. Yup, that is precisely what he did with French President Hollande last week. The Federalist has a great piece about the “4 Problems With Obama Censoring The Words ‘Islamist Terrorism'”:

[…] But on Thursday, the Obama administration took things one step further. At a meeting between President Obama and French President François Hollande, the latter noted, unremarkably, that the roots of Islamist terrorism are in Syria and Iraq. The official White House video, however, cuts out Hollande’s voice and that of his interpreter when he says “Islamist terrorism” and references a coalition to act in the region.


1. Censorship Is a Slippery Slope

Yes, we’ve seen Obama avoid using the phrase “Islamist terrorism” before, but this goes way beyond any previous attempts to skirt the issue with bland references to “violent extremism.” This is an effort to expel the phrase from the conversation—literally. It’s one thing to refuse to acknowledge the threat oneself, but it is quite another to suppress the speech of a foreign head of state. This is full-blown censorship.

[…] (Click here to read #2, #3, and #4, as well as the rest of this good piece.)

Exactly – censorship IS a “slippery slope,” but that is precisely what Obama is doing on this and so many other issues.

I could go on about this for forever, as I am sure you know, but there is one thing that I absolutely MUST include in this post: TODAY IS OPENING DAY!!!! WAHOO!!!! BASEBALL IS HERE!!!

Hey, I am not the only one excited about it. The brilliant Mollie Hemingway seems to be as well, especially for why it is so important: “We Really Need Baseball This Year.” She isn’t only kidding. It is a good piece, summed up with this paragraph:

[…] But with these three early games, something interesting happened. After weeks of fighting on social media about politics and other hopeless matters, people began writing instead about line drives, fielding errors, and the pain of losing to the Royals. People unable to hide their jealousy of the Cardinals rejoiced that the team had been beaten by the Pirates. And Cardinals fans, who love their boys win or lose, were just thankful that the season had begun. (Kidding — just fun to watch Cardinal haters get worked up.)

There have been a few other times in recent memory when people needed baseball. The most significant was in the aftermath of the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks. Everything shut down, including baseball. It felt like forever that games were suspended, but it was only six days. And when the teams came back on the field, it brought joy and hope that things might return to normal… […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Exactly. And if nothing else, it gives those of us who are fans somewhere else to focus our attention rather than have our heads blow up because of politics. THAT is a good thing indeed…

A programming reminder for tonight – Sen. Cruz will be on Megyn Kelly’s show for the entire hour. It airs at 9:00 pm and repeats at midnight (EST).

That’s it for me! This is an Open Thread.


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30 Responses to “Threats, Facts, Censorship, and Big Day *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I haven’t watched FOX for two weeks but will make it a point to watch Megyn with Cruz. I don’t expect her to handle him with kid gloves and I don’t want her to. ALL the candidates need to be able to stand up to tough questions.

    Not “gotcha” questions and not questions about what other candidates are “tweeting”. Good substantive questions that show that the candidate has the intellect to handle the job.

    These primary contests and then the general are in fact nothing more than job interviews. Only fools drool over someone asking them for a job IMO. And I say that as a Cruz supporter who has come to like and respect him more that I ever thought I would. I was a Scott Walker gal and then a Carly Fiorina gal. And now both are on the Cruz band wagon. Whodathunkit?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      YES – these are supposed to be job interviews!! That is exactly right. Checking your brain at the door and going just on feelings is NOT the way to hire someone for ANY position, much less the Presidency of the United States!

      And yeah – I have given up Fox now – I tried to watch for a minute this morning, but it was immediately all abt Trump. Ugh. Kelly is the one person who still seems to have her wits abt her, and is smart, to boot. That she has gotten death threats for her questions to Trump speaks volumes abt the violence Trump incites, the impact of his defaming her, and how irrational are some of his supporters.

      It is a deplorable state of affairs that ANYONE should be threatened with violence for a candidate they support or don’t support. We should be better than that…

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    😉 From FiveThirtyEight:

    According to our latest polls-plus forecast, Ted Cruz has a 95% chance of winning the Wisconsin primary.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I like those odds! 😀

    • piper Says:

      Ready for all of this to be over. Tired of all the unavailable phone calls that I’ve been receiving in the past weeks. Since I don’t pick up these types of calls, they go straight to voice mail -no message just hang ups which I have to delete or suffer the flashing light symptoms.

      Woke up this morning feeling icky and said enough – I want this insanity to be over – the vile messaging, the hateful comments from friends who have forgotten it’s okay to agree to disagree, the media picking our candidates and most of all the sound bites of Mr. I’m the Best Ever and Will Be the Best for ……………..
      Would like to go back to the days where I watched the news to find out what was happening in our city, state, country and world, not get second rate opinions from paid ‘consultants’ or whatever they’re called at this moment.

      Clouds have moved back into my burg and my overall outlook.

      Maybe a sprinkling of fairy dust and dollars from heaven (Bernie’s phantom trust fund) will change my frame of mind.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I know exactly how you feel. Some days I feel like I should just put an “Out of Order” sticker on my forehead and call it a day.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I can totally relate, too. When we had the Primary here, with so many people in the race, it was incessant. Made me nuts. I am now getting calls from Hillary and Bernie’s camps. Huh?! Anyway, yeah, it is aggravating. I hope things calm down there come Weds. morning!

        And I also appreciate the Primary Fatigue in general. It does seem to feel longer than last time, mainly because so many of the outlets insist upon having Trump on constantly. It is amazing that Cruz has done as well as he has…

        That said, even his spokesman who was on CNN this morning did him no favors by not making it crystal clear that Cruz was QUOTING Trump abt the NY values. Frankly, I think that is the ad they should run non-stop in NY – a clip of the Trump interview where he is saying that constantly with a side-by-side of de Blasio putting down police officers or something. It is ridiculous that they have allowed the media to redefine the CONTEXT for that initial statement in the first place. UGH.

        Anyway – yes, it is tiresome. Some of the candidates, for sure, and definitely some of the “experts.”

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Ever wonder why it is that Conservatives are called the right” and Liberals are called the “left”.

    Consider this verse from the Bible:

    Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

  5. helenk3 Says:

    indian government and Austrialian government starting investigation after Panama leaks.

    this is really going to be big

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    Deace: Trump’s Biggest Strength is Now His Biggest Weakness

    So what’s happened?

    What’s happened is the brand Trump used to build his base makes him now unable to expand it. That brand of outrageous, contemptible putdown-style of personality-driven politics certainly touched a nerve with a portion of a justifiably angry electorate.

    However, with the field narrowed to a two-man race (plus the vanity of John Kasich), the percentage of those who just want to watch the world burn is now dwarfed by those who realize you can’t replace something with nothing. And we still have to actually govern the country when we’re done venting.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Excellent observations. The people who are angry-but-still-rationale have ALWAYS had greater numbers than the Trump supporters who are all abt raging and yelling and not caring abt facts.

      So yeah – now the 2/3 of us who have been saying all along we want someone who has a spine, but can also think, speak coherently, and who is a Constitutionalist, are finally being heard.

      And it’s abt damn time, too.

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

    Here’s a comprehensive video I stole from RS on the process of getting to a contested convention and what happens then. Given that it’s quite possible we end up with a contested convention, you might wanna give this a watch:

  8. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Good for Greg Gutfeld for calling out Greta AND Hannity for their peddling of Trump:

  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    A friend had this up at Facebook. It confirms what many of us suspected, and is a clear dereliction of journalistic duty and integrity. The media have sold us out to push Trump:

    • piper Says:

      Ty for the link which I posted on Facebook. The news station sold us out in 2008 and continue to do so today. Life is much better without hearing the ‘opinions’ of bought and sold news lackeys.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        My pleasure, piper – well, not my pleasure that they are DOING it, but happy to spread the news abt them so we can make them pay for their malfeasance by not watching them. That seems to be our only recourse…

  10. helenk3 Says:

    interesting take on trump

  11. helenk3 Says:

    do not know whether to laugh or cry

  12. kenoshamarge Says:

    Watched the Ted Cruz/Megyn Kelly “Townhall” and I was proud of the choice I had made when I voted for Senator Ted Cruz last Friday. Megyn didn’t toss him softballs like Hannity needed to do for Trump. Ted Cruz is strong enough, intelligent enough, and informed enough to handle the likes of Megyn Kelly. Trump is still whining because he wasn’t.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I completely understand that emotion, Marge! I am 2/3 through it now, and he is really handling himself very well. He is actually answering the questions with complete sentences, with thoughtfulness, intelligence, and strength. He is – by far – the best candidate for President.

      And Trump. Please. Megyn failed to note when she said Greta is doing a candidate thing with Kasich, and Hannity with Trump, that GRETA gave Trump an extra hr on Sunday. Grrr.

  13. helenk3 Says:

    what is going on?????????

    In passing I noticed that both Chase Bank and JP Morgan bank are limited ATM withdrawals

  14. helenk3 Says:

    a must read

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      EXCELLENT Sowell piece, Helen. Thank you so much for that. He is SUCH a smart man, and so right…

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