While Bathroom-Gate Made (Incessant) News, Something Much More Important Was Lurking *Open Thread*


As many of us suspected, this whole Bathroom-Gate non-issue (see this excellent piece in the Federalist Papers for all the reasons this was NEVER an issue in the first place, just made one by Liberals), there was something much more serious, much more, dare I say, SINISTER, afoot.

And that would be the recent revelation about Saudi Arabia threatening to call in their chits if 9/11 lawsuits were allowed to go through. Rather, that is the basis for what is happening that is truly astonishing. And that is the President of the United States  choosing sides – but not OURS.

Now, I realize that this is not really that surprising considering how Obama reacted to the King of Saudi Arabia just seven years ago this month. Allow me to remind you (no need to have the sound on):


Uh, yeah. As I noted in a post seven years ago, Obama practically genuflected to the Saudi King. American Presidents DO NOT BOW TO OTHER LEADERS. Or they aren’t SUPPOSED to do so.

I reckon it shouldn’t come as a total surprise considering this, except that Obama is standing with Saudi Arabia against the US Senate. And get this, the Senate is actually pretty much in solidarity  on this issue. Shocking, I know, but that highlights just how out of step and misguided is our President.

The New York Times has the story (via Legal Insurrection):


The dispute comes as bipartisan criticism is growing in Congress about Washington’s alliance with Saudi Arabia, for decades a crucial American ally in the Middle East and half of a partnership that once received little scrutiny from lawmakers. Last week, two senators introduced a resolution that would put restrictions on American arms sales to Saudi Arabia, which have expanded during the Obama administration.

Families of the Sept. 11 victims have used the courts to try to hold members of the Saudi royal family, Saudi banks and charities liable because of what the plaintiffs charged was Saudi financial support for terrorism. These efforts have largely been stymied, in part because of a 1976 law that gives foreign nations some immunity from lawsuits in American courts.

The Senate bill is intended to make clear that the immunity given to foreign nations under the law should not apply in cases where nations are found culpable for terrorist attacks that kill Americans on United States soil. If the bill were to pass both houses of Congress and be signed by the president, it could clear a path for the role of the Saudi government to be examined in the Sept. 11 lawsuits.


The bill is an anomaly in a Congress fractured by bitter partisanship, especially during an election year. It is sponsored by Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, and Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York. It has the support of an unlikely coalition of liberal and conservative senators, including Al Franken, Democrat of Minnesota, and Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas. It passed through the Judiciary Committee in January without dissent.

“As our nation confronts new and expanding terror networks that are targeting our citizens, stopping the funding source for terrorists becomes even more important,” Mr. Cornyn said last month. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

To say the 9/11 Families are upset about Obama’s siding with Saudi Arabia against them, and against US, is putting it mildly. And they SHOULD be upset.

Hell, we should ALL be upset when our President sides with another nation, especially one that in one way or another, supported the majority of 9/11 terrorists. That may be putting it mildly, as Sen. Bob Graham went into more detail with John Smerconish on CNN. It is well worth your time to view the entire video, which comes via The Right Scoop:


That is one powerful interview, and highlights that there is much more in those 28 pages than we know, and that we have been misled that Saudi Arabia had nothing to do with the 9/11 terror attack.

It is hard to even fathom that we have a President who is arguing on behalf of another country against his own, especially in light of an Act passed earlier this year. From the NY Daily News:

[…] The Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, which passed the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this year, would take away immunity from foreign governments in cases “arising from a terrorist attack that kills an American on American soil.”


Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.

Former U.S. Sen. Bob Graham, who co-chaired a joint congressional investigation into the attacks, charged Saudi officials were worried their ties to the World Trade Center terrorists would be revealed during a trial if the bill were passed.

“I think the action by Saudi Arabia is reprehensible and also very revealing,” the Florida Democrat told the Daily News Sunday. “They are so fearful of what would emerge if there were to be a full trial. That says something about Saudi Arabia’s involvement in 9/11.”

Graham, who left Capitol Hill in 2005, also slammed the Obama administration.

“I think it’s even more objectionable that the U.S. government has been supporting Saudi Arabia and erecting roadblocks to the passage of the legislation.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

I couldn’t agree more. It is definitely “objectionable,” if not even worse than that.

This decision speaks VOLUMES about President Obama and his priorities. What it says is not good, not good at all.

And that is what Bathroom-Gate has been covering up.

There is more going on in the nation and world today. Feel free to discuss the above or whatever else is on your minds today. This is an Open Thread.


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36 Responses to “While Bathroom-Gate Made (Incessant) News, Something Much More Important Was Lurking *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    It is more and more apparent that what Obama’s legacy will be is that he choose sides and it was with the USA.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      You are so right, Marge. And the cartoon sums it up so well. Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster, and our standing in the world is terrible, thanks to the Apologizer in Chief. Ugh…

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Especially appropriate today:

    Ted Cruz: The Tax Basher!

    Under a Cruz administration, Americans will enjoy a “new birth of freedom” each Spring! Your family and our country will be in much better economic shape when the Cruz Simple Flat Tax Plan is a reality. The individual rate of 10 percent will not only liberate families from tax stress, but will so simplify the system that the IRS can be abolished. (For families who are struggling to make it, there will be no taxes at all if the income is less than $ 36,000 a year.)


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Wouldn’t that be something? A flat tax at that rate? There is no doubt it would help numerous Americans. And if we can get rid of Obamacare, there will be no more reason to have the IRS (ahem).

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Ted and Heidi Cruz on GMA. It is generally a fair interview. Stephanopoulos and his partner get a constipated look on their faces as Cruz answers quickly and well to all he’s asked.

    One line stuck in my head was when Ted Cruz was asked about Trump saying he could eliminate the national debt in 8 years. Cruz replied that “Donald’s calculator is missing a few keys.” Brilliant and funny!


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Glad to hear it was a relatively good interview, and I know just the look you mean!

      Cruz is funny. Abt time he had the opportunity to let his personality shine!

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Uh huh. And of course, his supporters don’t want to have to pay for any of those things themselves. They think the rest of us should just give them to them. Bunch of entitlement, ignorant, children have in this country now…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        And far too many “adults” who refuse to grow up and/or get themselves informed. Shiftless as my Grandpa used to say.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          That is so true. I do not know how we ended up with so many “shiftless” people in this country, so many who want something for nothing, who DEMAND goods and services because they want them, that’s why! And who demonize people who work hard for a living. Just astonishing.

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    I used to think that it was only the Dems that would divide us – Bernie wants to divide the rich from the poor and make them enemies, Hillary would divide us by gender. The Dems would force things like a shared bathroom and thus help to alienate those that never cared about gay vs straight issues before.

    Now we have the right divided as I have never seen them divided with the whole Cruz vs Trump thing.

    The powers that be in government must be chortling with glee. Americans divided and fighting each other are too busy to be united against the government and the politicians and the media that divides them.

    • helenk3 Says:

      I keep having this random thought
      if the donald gets the nomination and divides the Republican party, then loses, how many tax breaks will he get from Hillary?
      that man has never been a republican in his life, you know there is a reason for him to become one now and it is not a good one.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I think we can see if he’s just a stalking horse for Hillary by how he treats her should he, God and all the Angels forbid, be the nominee. If he goes light? Then I might actually begin to believe some of the conspiracy theories floating around.

        Honestly I can’t see the man wanting to be president other than for all the attention. Like Obama he’s not willing to put in the study and work that it requires. Even now when Trump should be hitting the campaign trail hard he spends more time in his Ivory Tower tweeting than campaigning.

        Meanwhile Ted and Heidi Cruz had a great interview on GMA this morning. Not CNN or MSNBC or FOX – ABC where the interview will be seen by millions of people that perhaps were not familiar with them before.

        The crowd was surprising upbeat and supportive. It seemed to surprise both Robyn and George Stephanopoulos. This kind of attention is good for Cruz and bad for the ever whiny, children Trump.

  7. helenk3 Says:

    I brought this forward from the last post


    a whole lot to think about

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I agree with almost everything VDH wrote. And that makes me fear for this country as never before. I think he’s right in that Sanders and Trump are merely symptoms of a sick society.

  8. helenk3 Says:

    think this fits in with this post


  9. mcnorman Says:

    I don’t believe that the US has ever had a POTUS that dislikes his own country as much as the asshat in the WH. The apology tour, the bowing, etc., all a reflection of how the country that he represents has wronged the world. I never thought I would live to see such a creep in office.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      And now with the latest terrorist attack in Jerusalem we can expect the Idiot-In-Chief to come out and warn Israel about “overreacting” to the attack. The man is an embarrassment. And like you say, he must really hate this country.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I don’t believe we have either, mcnorman. It is appalling to see a US President act the way Obama has abt AMERICANS. It is contemptible.

      And Marge, I would not be one bit surprised if that was the reaction by Obama.

      Here is a link to the breaking news Marge mentioned:http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/middleeast/jerusalem-bus-explosion/index.html

  10. helenk3 Says:


    you can be arrested two years later for taking pictures at a protest but it is ok to sell minerals to Russia that threaten our national security. What part don’t I understand?

  11. helenk3 Says:


    how democrats plan to win

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I thought congress had the power of the purse. Where the hell is Obama getting access to 19 million taxpayer dollars?

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Speaking of Obama’s legacy, I so, so, SO hope he loses this case: http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/276664-supreme-court-appears-divided-in-immigration-case

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      This is where the 4 and 4 court is such a danger. If they deadlock, and who can ever figure where Kennedy will go, then it goes back to the lower court decision.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Though in this case, that would be GOOD considering the Lower Court is the one that struck down Obama’s Immigration grab: Kennedy said that the justices are being asked to define the limits of discretion, adding that Obama’s actions seem more like a legislative act than an executive act.

        “It’s as if the president is setting the policy and the Congress is executing it,” he said. “That’s just upside down.”

        A 4-4 split by the court, which has shown signs it’s struggling with just eight justices, would leave in place a lower court’s decision blocking Obama’s action in a severe blow to the president.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          Didn’t realize that the lower court decision was seeking to reign in Obama. Then for this one time at least I will pray for the 4-4 split.

  13. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Here are some more facts abt taxes that blow up all of the division by the Democrats/OWS/Socialists: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/45-of-americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax-2016-02-24

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      The only people who want taxes to go up are those that don’t pay any but take money from people that do.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Exactly right, Marge – that is exactly right. They want us to work harder and pay more so THEY don’t have to do anything. WOW.

  14. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I am sure this will come as no surprise to anyone here that, once again, the Russians buzzed one of our ships:

  15. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    If anyone had any doubt whatsoever that Fox is in the tank for Trump, these numbers make it crystal clear: http://therightscoop.com/mrctv-which-cable-network-has-more-trump-bias-lets-take-a-look

  16. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    More “Do as I say, not as I do,” this time from Bernie Sanders as his hypocrisy on taxes is exposed: http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/04/bernie-sanders-took-60200-in-tax-deductions/

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