Evening In America **Open Thread**


I’m not the first to say it and certainly I won’t be the last but I have this sad feeling that we are seeing the end of the America we knew. The land of the free and the home of the brave. Is it all over? All good things come to an end so we are told and anyone who knows history knows that countries rise and fall. Perhaps it’s just our time to fall.

Countries often fall because the people become corrupt. Governments are frequently/usually corrupt in some manner but so long as the people themselves remain uncorrupted there is hope. I think we’ve passed that point.

I’m not saying that there aren’t millions, tens of millions, even a 100 million good and decent people in this country. I’m saying that they are no longer the majority.

The number of people that seem to feel they are somehow “entitled” to be supported by the government, that would be those that work for a living grows. ObamaPhones, free education, government or institutions should pay for their health care and birth control and abortions. Rent assistance, heat assistance and a host of programs designed to be a helping hand that now is a flood of handouts. Not a citizen? Not a problem. Trillions in debt and still the spending spree goes on. And those who expect this will vote for those that give them what they want.

Nearly everyone, in and out of the media, accepts that Hillary Clinton is corrupt, that she’s dishonest, that she has few accomplishments. But on Tuesday in NY millions voted for her. Why would they do that? Because she and they are Democrats? Not a good enough answer. It seems to say that millions of people are willing to  accept corruption in government and they are willing to put it in the White House. People howl about dishonest politicians and then willingly, knowingly vote for them. All the hypocrites aren’t in office.

Then we come to the angry little adolescents who are voting for a  whiny vulgarian with no plans, no grasp of the issues, no integrity and the vocabulary of a spoiled brat of 12. But he will Make America Great Again. Are you kidding me? Are you in any way, shape or form willing to trust this country to a slogan on a baseball cap? Are you willing to vote for a man who whines to sit in the Oval Office?  Is that what you consider a good leader? Really?

Remember when the slogans were about the “culture of corruption in Washington D.C. and by politicians? Remember when the remarkably dishonest Nancy Pelosi was going to clean that up? Some of us didn’t buy into the idea that a career politician and daughter of a politician was going to be all the quick to clean up corruption. It’ s the breath of life for people like her. She’s a prime example of a government thug dressed fine and speaking out of both sides of her mouth. She, not surprisingly, along with fellow fem fool Barbara Boxer represent the People’s Republican of California.

Most people that didn’t buy into her baloney were Republicans and since they were committed to disagreeing with her on a party line no one paid much attention. Especially not Democrats and certainly not the women that were giddy with delight that this hypocrite was the Speaker of the House. As if corruption and dishonestly couldn’t come clad in expensive skirted suits. Corruption is gender neutral.

I personally am nervous about watching television or going to a movie with my grandchildren. Much of what is common on the screen today, both audio and visual, would not have been considered fit to be seen just 20 years ago. I don’t need to see “love” scenes so realistic that you can smell the sweat. I have a very good imagination and don’t need to see the gymnastics that I personally consider nothing more than soft porn.

Part of the problem, IMHO, is the media. So much of what is wrong in some of our eyes is presented as normal. Those who object are old fuddy-duddies. Decency and morality are so old hat doncha know? In politics and in private lives. In private lives I couldn’t care less. What goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults is none of my business. I don’t know, don’t want to know, and sure as hell don’t want to see.

However when it comes to politics I do want to know. I insist on knowing. I insist that the media, which is more corrupt than what they cover, do their damn job. They are supposed to be the watch dogs for the people not the cheer-leaders for a political party or ideology.

This isn’t my first rant on these subjects and I don’t believe it will be the last. Because some things are just right and some things are just wrong. To me right and wrong has no political party. To me truth and lies are not negotiable. Not now and not ever.

I fundamentally distrust all politicians because we the people force them to lie to us. If they told the complete truth few would vote for them. They couldn’t get elected to a local School Board.  Some would lie anyway but not all of them are evil people who like to lie. So they tell people what they want to hear.

Some few are better than others. That’s where I look for who I will support and who will get my vote. And there is no way on the face of the earth that Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will ever get my vote. They just aren’t worthy. They are just wrong.


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21 Responses to “Evening In America **Open Thread**”

  1. helenk3 Says:

    there is a picture on the side of this blog
    and the eagle weeps
    this picture has expressed my feelings for a long time. Our grand children and future generation will not have the privledge of knowing the great America that was.
    the help given to other countries
    the willingness to work to make things better
    the great opportunities if you were willing to work for them
    A government of the people, for the people, by the people
    the great pride of being an American
    the willingness to learn

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Excellent point, Helen (and that picture of the eagle is there thanks to you, I might add). It is astonishing to see what is happening in this country. It is like we are a nation of perpetual petulant demanding adolescents. It is beyond upsetting…

  2. helenk3 Says:


    this man is in agreement

  3. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Excellent post, Marge. I was talking with a dear friend yesterday, and what she was saying paralleled your comments. People are worried – truly worried – abt the direction in which this country is going. I am one of those people…

    • mcnorman Says:

      You and I are not alone. This used to be called fretting over nothing. It is not nothing. I went to a friend’s estate sale a few weeks ago. In line was an elderly gentleman. He had a Mexican coin in his hand. He casually said that he was always looking to purchase the silver coins of yesteryear. I asked him if he was a collector? He said no. He said that he was very worried about the economy. He said that his 35 lbs of silver should get him through the last few years of his life.

      On another note, people are not seeing the writing on the wall. The Central States Pension Fund has stated that it will be insolvent by 2025. This is one of the largest pension funds. They began making changes in October and sending notifications last year. They have already cut pay outs by half monthly.


      Retirees will be looking for part time anything because what they thought they were going to have and what is front of them is not the same. And the good ole government is not going to be able to save the day (just like in Greece).


      More than half of multiemployer plan participants will have their benefits reduced if their plans become insolvent and rely on government guarantees in the near future, said a study released Wednesday by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp.
      That compares to 21% of participants now in plans that have already run out of money and rely on PBGC guarantees.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    11 Quick Takeaways From House Hearing On Aborted Baby Parts Trafficking

    By Mollie Hemingway

    The market for aborted baby parts is significant, growing, and operating in violation of federal law, witnesses testified at a House hearing.

    The strenuous Democratic efforts to fight the evidence, to help those in the industry thwart investigation, and to question the very investigation into fetal organ markets were difficult to ignore.


    I cannot comprehend anyone defending this practice. The Dems are doing their best to keep it a secret which means they know and approve. One more excellent reason to NOT be a Dem.

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Here’s an interesting Earth Day piece from the founder of the Weather Channel: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/04/22/weather-channel-founder-slams-un-on-earth-day-money-politics-ideology-have-replaced-science-n2152456

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    The problem is that we are outnumbered and the government is often the evil and so it is very hard to not be afraid. My years are numbered but my granddaughters are just starting out and my great-granddaughters have only just begun. I worry for them because I fear they will never know the America that I knew. Flawed? Yes but still the last best hope for this world. And we are not losing that to outside forces, the enemy is within.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Marge, I know exactly what you mean. I worry too that these kids will not know…

  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I want to wish our Jewish readers a good Passover:

  10. helenk3 Says:

    just because


  11. helenk3 Says:


    impressive article

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