“RIP GOP” *Open Thread*



And there you have it. The minority has spoken, and now a true RINO – a man just recently a Democrat who still spouts Leftist policies like Single Payer Health care and increased taxation, a policy with with Socialist Lite Elizabeth Warren concurs, truly is the presumptive nominee of the GOP. That is, unless some miracle occurs, which is what it will take, it is either Trump or Clinton, and neither one is a good choice for this nation.

There are lots of reactions to this turn of events, including anger – mine – at Sen. Ted Cruz for breaking his promise to hang in until the Convention. That he let us down, meaning, the Nation, by removing the one decent candidate left, the one person who would make principled decisions when selecting SCOTUS appointees, or return the DOJ to its true purpose, or rescind Obama’s numerous illegal decrees, or repeal and replace Obamacare, or make sure our tax dollars did not fund abortions through Planned Parenthood, and reduce our tax burden, to name just a few things, is now out. He, and the GOP, have left us with this charlatan, this bully, this misogynist, this lunatic who spouts the most insane rhetoric and claims. THAT is who the GOP is now.

And that is just mind boggling to me, as much as 2008 and the Obama phenomenon was/is. It is incomprehensible to me that so many people, even if it is a third of the GOP, would be so willing to tear this country down to seek their vengeance, not giving a DAMN about the effect that will have not just on us and the current crop of GOP Congresspeople at whom they are so mad, but our children and grandchildren. There is no doubt Democrats voted for Trump to have him be the one up against Clinton, so not only did these GOPers lose their collective minds going with their rage and anger rather than their brains, they allowed the Democrats and media to participate in selecting the GOP nominee. Even if all the crazy ranting didn’t filter through to them, one would have thought THAT little nugget – the media at which they have railed for its manipulations and Democrats – would have been a wake up call. But no. They just reveled in their man getting a third of the vote and his trash talking of anyone and everyone, no matter how vile, disgusting, or maniacal it was.

trump-laughingstockYes. I am angry. I am furious at what these people have unleashed upon this once great nation. I am angry as hell that they have picked Donald Trump out of all the good, even great, candidates we had. Donald Trump. Because he got up there and stoked their anger, mouthing empty platitudes while tossing out policy ideas on which he would contradict himself within minutes, even using a teleprompter. So, yes. I am angry as hell that they selected this true RINO – a man who has given money – lots of it – the very people this GOP Third has derided and decried for years. What the hell is wrong with those people???


What is worse, there truly is no “lesser of two evils,” as David Harsanyi of The Federalist writes:

[…] On the same day that billionaire wins the GOP Indiana primary and secures the party’s nomination, he decides to use an National Enquirer story—the future in-flight publication of Air Force One—to accuse opponent Ted Cruz’s father of helping Lee Harvey Oswald. This was just an amuse-bouche of the utter stupidity that down-ballot GOP candidates will have to deal with, justify, rationalize, ignore, excuse, or support every day for the next six months or so. One hopes the stench of this kind of endorsement clings to them for the rest of their unprincipled and, hopefully, short political careers.


The people who ensured that the most flawed GOP candidate running, the mostunpopular in every demographic category, the least conservative and the most vulgar, will blame movement conservatives and their imaginary puppet masters for bringing down a hero. They already do. Trying to placate them is a waste of time.

What sort of thing will “alienate” the average voter more? Imagine how tough it will for any decent candidate in a competitive district, running in place like Colorado or Utah or Wisconsin where Trump in unpopular and movement conservatives will be in no mood to vote in the presidential, to deal with the ugly vagaries of Trumpism day after day and win an election.

To see what the future looks for the average Republican, think about how Trump talks about women. Polls show that approximately 70 percent of women voters have an unfavorable view of the presumptive GOP nominee—in a party that already struggles to attract them. Simply by using direct quotes—soundbites, as this candidate in Arkansas did—Republicans will be forced to spend an inordinate amount of time explaining why their candidate believes mocking the menstrual cycles of journalists who ask him difficult questions is acceptable behavior.

How many voters will that “alienate,” do you think?

The idea that Republicans can localize their elections and avoid the Trump phenomena is preposterous. You’re not afforded this kind of leeway in the best of years, and it won’t happen the coming media frenzy. After Trump secures the nomination, the press will finally become hyper-focused on the massive backlog of Trump’s business dealings and various other unpleasant history. Does anyone think it’s going to be easier to share a ticket? […] (Click here to read the rest.)

No kidding. And that is just the beginning. This sums it up well (h/t Facebook friend):

And there you have it.

The bottom line is this: regardless of which one is elected to the White House, Clinton or Trump, our nation will not be the same. And that is a bitter pill to swallow…

This is an Open Thread.


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87 Responses to ““RIP GOP” *Open Thread*”

  1. piper Says:

    “Completely disjointed and impotent conservatives
    But Hillary will take the Oval Office this year, not only because the feel-good party has captured the obedience of the mob (and therefore the electoral vote) – but also because of the amazing cooperation given her by the completely disjointed and impotent conservatives. By the time we get to election day, the liberals will have Hillary on the ballot. But conservatives will, to our great detriment, offer several flavors (GOP, Independent(s), Libertarian, Write-ins, etc.) from which to choose. Forget about it. After the fact, so many of us will proudly boast, “Well at least I voted my conscience!” For the last two elections we’ve demonstrated the solidarity of chickens in a windstorm (those who have bothered to participate). Whatever happened to the desperately simple, common sense of “JOIN OR DIE,” Franklin’s motto for early patriots.

    What I have said here won’t win me any popularity contests, I know. But let’s see if I’m wrong.

    The conservative ticket – and therefore its strength – will be effectively shredded this time around, once again. And if we lose at this sad point in our nation’s history, it’s all over for any semblance of the America the framers intended. We will not just have lost the battle – we will have lost the war.”

    Link: http://canadafreepress.com/article/2016-americas-gift-to-hillary-the-oval-office

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is a sad commentary on where we are in this country now. The Democrats have done tremendous damage to this country, but they couldn’t do it alone. And now, the Republicans are offering up not just a RINO, but an insane one, as an alternative to another Democrat.

      I truly do fear for what will become of our nation.

      • piper Says:

        I can’t even call him a RINO, his party rightly should be called Drumpf as he is all about himself and nothing else matters except what is best for him. And his followers belong to the party of Stupid and Stupid.

  2. piper Says:

    From the same article (thanks Helen) this paragraph stands out for me.

    “The Republican Party is a different story, however. For those who are idealists about the Constitution–and there are probably far fewer than some of us like to imagine–there are a number of reasons to sabotage The Party of Trump, even if it ends with a Hillary presidency. The first is salvaging some of your own dignity and principles. But there are other, long-term political advantages to beating back an authoritarian populist who peddles conspiracy theories and big-government schemes and doesn’t have a freshman-level comprehension about the basic workings of American governance.”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That is an important paragraph (I believe that is the same article I have above in the post).

      Unfortunately, too few people care abt the Constitution, including Trump himself. I know I sound like a broken record, but I simply cannot fathom how people who claim to be Conservatives would vote for a man so woefully ignorant abt such an important aspect of being President – knowing and CARING what is in the Constitution…(Someone, I can’t find who now, had a great side-by-side of Trump at 69 not caring abt the Constitution and Cruz age 13 memorizing it…)

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      That paragraph is dead on Piper. And as the politicians flock to
      Trump and tell us that we must too we know that while they have no core values, indeed no core other than getting elected and re-elected, we do.

      And something Steve Deace said on his show struck me like a ton of bricks – we don’t worship at the party of “R”. If we do then shame on us. Our values, our character, our sense of decency are all under assault. And leading that assault is Trump and the Trumpanzees.

  3. piper Says:

    Bringing up my comment from other thread.

    Last night at knitting, one of the staunch Democrat (who I respect bec. of his openness and willingness to listen and agree to disagree) and I spoke about the shenanigans of Dem. voters who will and do vote for the weakest opponent to run against their candidate. He said that this was one of their ploys which they had used for many years and elections.

    In 2008, I was through with the Democrat becoming an Independent and willing to vote for Republicans who have sadly turned into big nothings rolling over for just about every policy that Obama wanted.

    So today I’m done supporting Republicans except for a few like Johnson. I’m still gobsmacked that the Republicans would actually allow someone like Trump to usurp their party and run as a Republican. The other really horrible practice was to allow 17 people to run in the primaries – what happened to vetting and putting out the most viable people to run.

    I’m still reeling from last night announcement – my first coffee was a mess as I forgot to put the coffee insert in the Kreig.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thank you for bringing this great comment up, piper. I appreciate it.

      At least your Dem knitting companion is honest abt the Dems’ shenanigans in choosing the Reps’ nominee. He could have dismissed it as a conspiracy theory or something. Well, except that it is so glaringly obvious that is what they are doing.

      But what burns me up is that Reps have gone along with this. Seriously. How the hell did Trump ever even get the number of GOPers he did?? That is astonishing.

      Like you, I became an Independent in 2008. I will still vote for my very good US Senator (Scott) and my Representative (Sanford), but yeah – I don’t want to hear any more from the RNC. They truly snatched defeat from certain victory.

  4. piper Says:

    Last one for now – your thread is excellent.

    Will not denigrate Cruz for suspending – I think the big boys told him it was over and time to leave otherwise lose his Senate seat.

    Need some Maxine humor to help me thru the day.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thank you, piper – I appreciate it!

      I imagine Cruz was getting a ton of pressure, too – which also says a LOT abt the RNC. It is another reason to dislike them.

  5. piper Says:

    Richard Viguerie ‎@RichardViguerie Tweet

    Trump is the first presidential candidate in history to quote the National Enquirer as I said a new low #NeverTrump

  6. GinaR Says:

    Amy, everything you’ve written is what I feel. I’m devastated at the loss of this great republic, because regardless of who is in the White House – Trump or Clinton – our republic is dead.

    And like you, I will not vote for either of those two. The only difference between them is that Trump is insane. A lunatic. He scares the hell out of me. Clinton does, as well, and she’ll take this country down a road from which there is no return. Trump will do the exact same thing, but because the man is insane he may take us farther down that road…into nuclear war.

    That we have come to this, that the American people have decided that these two despicable, abhorrent people are the best we have to lead this country, breaks my heart.

    I don’t know what miracle can occur in Cleveland. Had Cruz stayed in the race it’s possible that Trump could have been stopped from getting to 1237. But now…I don’t know what miracle can occur.

    I do know this. The GOP doesn’t deserve to Rest In Peace. They deserve to burn in hell, all of them, who have brought us to this point. It’s time for a 3rd party, the Conservative Party.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good point abt the GOP, Gina. They brought this on themselves, but by so doing, brought it upon the nation. I am reminded of this paragraph from the Harsanyi piece above:Trump has already exposed various pretend anti-establishmentarians, hucksters, and statists masquerading as conservatives—Mike Huckabee, Chris Christie, Rick Scott, and Jon Huntsman come to immediate mind. A party without any guiding ideology or principles is a party of nothing but opportunists. This goes for party “establishment”—and that includes big donors and the RNC—which has never moved to stop Trump, although his agenda and tone stands in contrast to everything they preached in their “autopsy.”

      Indeed – there is plenty of blame for the RNC…

      And thank you for your comment, Gina. I am so disgusted by this turn of events I can barely stand it…

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

    I admit I was very down last night. Then I gave myself a good swift kick and tried to pull myself back together this morning. After listening to the Steve Deace podcast – https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/05/deace-show-putting-wraps-on-2016 – I am feeling a whole lot better. I can’t change what the Trumpanzees and the low-information voters and the cult followers did. I can refuse to join them. And I do. I am just as much #NeverTrump today as I was yesterday.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOL – I am just seeing the image of you giving yourself a swift kick, Marge. Thanks for bringing a smile to my face today.

      Every cycle, I hope and pray this nation will get back on its feet and back to its roots. Every cycle, the Dems take us further and further away from those values and ideals. Moreover, they are enabled in so doing by the Reps. I appreciate your gumption this morning, but honestly, I am not there yet…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I can understand not being able to shake off the sadness of seeing what our fellow countrymen and women have devolved into.

        I was there this morning plus not feeling real good and wasn’t even going to turn on the computer. My hands did that before my brain could stop them. Muscle memory I think it’s called.

        Anyway I decided after playing a few games of Scrabble and Mah Jong to listen to Steve Deace’s podcast from last night. I am so glad I did. I feel so much better and even have a slight, very slight feeling of hope.

        Try listening – it may help you feel a little better:


        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I am listening to Deace now, Marge. I see why it helped you to feel better. He does make a lot of good points.

          His comments abt waking up in the middle of the night sobbing says a lot abt how much this is impacting him. So where he is now does say a lot.

          His words abt God being in the midst of this were powerful indeed. I admit, I was not happy with God this morning, a la Job, railing at how this could possibly be, especially after 8 years of Obama, etc., etc. Like Deace said, it was the concern that “God had turned His back on us…”

          But God has not. That is where faith comes in that God is indeed in the midst of this, all of this, even now. That we have to trust that, trust that God is working in the craziness of what is going on in this country right now. I have to hope that is true. And trust that God is strong enough to take the railings and despair of a middle aged woman…

          Oh, and Deace’s comment abt now the fake party, media, and more in which we put our faith have been exposed for who and what they are. That is absolutely true. Absolutely true.

          So thank you for this, and the encouragement to listen, Marge. I appreciate it.

          • justine00 Says:

            When my little sister was dying, I yelled at God a lot, demanding things of Him. This potus selection clearly is not as close to my heart, but, at this time, but I do get some solace by praying “Thy will be done.” I’m not proud of yelling at God over my sister, but it really does make me feel better when I’m able to simply pray for His Will and leave it to Him.

            • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

              Justine, I don’t know why your comment went into Moderation! So sorry abt that.

              And I am very sorry for the loss of your little sister. Of course you yelled at God. It is completely natural. We want to know why, why is it happening, why won’t God fix it, how could an innocent be so inflicted, and more. We are hurting, and we want comfort. God can take the yelling, and is also there for the comfort, being with us while we are in pain, allowing us to vent, rage, and cry. God can take it, and can take the burdens as well. Leaving it to God, being comforted in the warm embrace of God’s love while enduring these hardships, is such a gift…

    • GinaR Says:

      I’m afraid I’m still very down today, Marge. Unlike you, I didn’t give myself a swift kick, I went out and bought a big bag of chocolate and ate every last bite. I still feel like crap. To know that the American people are so blind and ignorant to have chosen to live in the darkness and to take us all down with them, devastates me. As far as I’m concerned, there’s nothing to feel good about. The only thing I can do is focus my energies elsewhere and try to stay as removed from the political mess as I can.

      • piper Says:

        Same here – agree with your comment about voters in our country.
        2 goodies eaten last night at Starbucks where my knitting group meets. In five minutes I will take myself off to the yard and do my least fav. job, eradicating weeds and overgrown grass from planting areas.

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Trump Just Burned Down Conservatism. The Time To Rebuild Begins Now.

    By Ben Shapiro


  9. kenoshamarge Says:

  10. kenoshamarge Says:

    I Am More Qualified For President Than Trump Or Clinton, And So Are You

    A random citizen picked from the phonebook would make a better president than either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      The author makes many, many excellent points. Heck, I wish HE had run – he would have been great, and WAY more qualified than Trump or Clinton…

  11. helenk3 Says:


    a very sad day

    • helenk3 Says:

      on jan 21 2017
      how many tax breaks will trump get from clinton for giving her the oval office?
      he did his job very well in causing chaos in the republican party and getting her elected

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Good question there, Helen. I imagine Hillary will call off the trial against Trump U or something.

        Considering how awesome has said she is, I would be not one bit surprised that they colluded…

  12. kenoshamarge Says:

    Sad what the party of Lincoln has come to:

  13. piper Says:

    Unbelievable the trumpanzees are out in full bloom on various blogs heaping praise and positives on their beloved candidate while denigrating Cruz and posting unkind pics of him and his family.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I wish I could say that surprises me but it is exactly what I expected of them…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Proving once again that they ain’t all that bright. They need every vote they can get if they are to defeat Hillary. So they go out and mob conservative/Cruz websites and insult the very people they will need. Like I said, not very bright.

        It wouldn’t do any good because most of us wouldn’t vote for the vulgar buffoon anyway. Just saying it’s kinda stupid.

        Oh there are a few here and there trying to convince people to “unite” to defeat Hillary. That isn’t working either, but at least it’s not quite as stupid.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Yeah, I have already had some friends saying things like, “not voting = Killary.” I replied that it isn’t people like ME who are putting Hillary in the White House. It is the Trump supporters who let their anger and egos fuel their rage to vote for him and destroy the RNC. So don’t try and manipulate us now – they are the ones who set this up by picking a man thoroughly unsuited for the office he seeks.

          But yeah – the bludgeoning is just stupid.

  14. helenk3 Says:


    feels like 2008 all over again.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yes, it truly does feel like 2008, Helen. And just as frustrating and alienating…

  15. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    If Kasich drops out now, it will be clear he was only aiding and abetting Trump by staying in as long as he did – INTENTIONALLY: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278675-kasich-cancels-dc-area-event-stoking-speculation-hell

  16. kenoshamarge Says:

    Any Brad Thor fans here? If so you might like this:

    Brad Thor: “No to Hitler was yes to Stalin.”

    When talking about the choice between Hillary & Donald. Brilliant!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I love Brad Thor. And he is SO right…

    • GinaR Says:

      Brad Thor said this to Glenn Beck in an interview on March 30:

      “Well, I got to tell you, listen, I will never vote for Donald Trump. I will never — Hillary is a thorough progressive. I mean, she was on TV last night talking about her progressiveness. I think Hillary would be a disaster for the country but we could survive and come out on the other side stronger. I don’t think we can survive Trump. I’m even at the point now where if a third party or a write-in wouldn’t guarantee that Trump loses, I might even vote Hillary Clinton if that’s what it takes to stop Donald Trump because I think she’s the lesser of two evils.”

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        GREAT comment by Thor. I think Trump may well be worse because he is NUTS. That means unpredictable, and that means scary as hell…

    • piper Says:

      Great author!

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I think so too. I have all his books. If you like him you might want to try Brad Taylor. I like him just as much.

  17. kenoshamarge Says:

    There is always the “Constitutional Freedom Party”. Thus far just rating candidates but given time and enough people who knows where it might go.


  18. piper Says:

    Question about the delegates – Does Trump automatically get the delegates from the states who haven’t voted yet?

    If not, could this be the reason Cruz was ordered to suspend his candidacy, leading to a GOP Rules Committee meeting and having a contested convention.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I don’t think so, but I could be wrong. I would think that if, for example, Cruz got a BUNCH of votes in, say, CA, even winning it (it could happen, I reckon), he would still get those delegates. The delegates aren’t given up until the Convention, so unless Trump can get those remaining delegates needed, it could still be contested.

      But I bet you are right abt the POB telling Cruz to shut it down so there is no contested convention…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Only if he wins those states and only the delegates he allotted unless Cruz’s people are still there and are denying him those delegates. States always get to vote – this is just the first time in a very long time that the votes of people in states like Indiana mattered. And then over 1/2 a million people threw their votes away on a scumskow like Trump.

      Just in case anyone wondered, I am not reconciled to Trump, I will never be reconciled to Trump and I loathe his supporters with every fiber of my being.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Well said, Marge. Thanks for the clarification!

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          I got it from listen to Steve Deace and Mark Levin. One more reason I like them – I always learn something.

          Trump supporters like those on FOX and Coulter and Ingraham propagandize listeners – the real conservatives teach. And encourage you to go look up things and to think for yourself. The others don’t do that because they don’t want you to think for yourself and to find the truth. Big difference.

  19. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    A friend had this at Facebook. I am liking that Ben Sasse more and more: http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/02/28/breaking-ben-sasse-becomes-first-elected-republican-declare-hell-never-vote-trump/

  20. kenoshamarge Says:

    Hey, here it is right out of the jackasses own mouth, he doesn’t need or want us.

    Trump: “I Don’t Think It’s Imperative The Entire Party Come Together,” “Let Them Wait 8 Years


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      EXACTLY, Marge – that sums up what a petulant, arrogant, SOB Trump is. Well, at least it enables us to throw that right back in the faces of Trumpanzees that Trump said he doesn’t need us. Fine by me!!

  21. piper Says:

  22. helenk3 Says:

    In 2008 the democratic party shot it self in the foot and lost a lot of people. How did that work out for the American citizens?
    Now in 2016 the republican party just did the same thing.
    Trust in our government is at the lowest I have ever seen. That makes us vulnerable to a con man with a line of bs that says what many want to hear.
    this is the time when people of principle have to come together and form a union to save the country. It will have to be done without the democratic or republican parties. It will take smarter people than me to begin this movement. Maybe the part of the tea party that was not corrupted by the establishment republicans would be a good place to start

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good idea, Helen. Yes, something has to change, and it is going to have to be people who are committed to the ideals our Founders set forth for this nation.

      Who knows – maybe this is the turning point we need to push us toward that end…

  23. helenk3 Says:


    this says a lot

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yes it does, Helen! Ben Shapiro is one smart man… (A friend had this up at Facebook – I planned on using it tomorrow. GMTA!)

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I love Ben Shapiro and never miss his pieces. Since my migration from NQ I have learned a lot, met a lot of great people and found some wonderful new blogs. Daily Wire is just one.

      It was quite possible to teach this old dog new tricks once she got mad enough to get off the porch.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        He is so good, isn’t he? And yes, it is amazing the sites we discover when we realize where we have been has become too toxic to stay…

  24. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Gee – Trump is a liberal just like we said he was: http://therightscoop.com/trumponomics-the-donald-is-looking-at-raising-the-minimum-wage

  25. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Marge, it seems Branco was a Cruz supporter after all but will now support Trump. Sigh. Sorry – this Kumbayah thing is bugging me. Anyway – check out what the writers at Legal Insurrection, including William Jacobson are saying: http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/05/trump-is-the-nominee-what-now-legal-insurrection-authors-debate

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Sad that. But for some their hate and fear of Hillary is worse than the unknown of Trump. Not for me. If anyone needed to see exactly what the Trumpanzees have given us all they needed to do was watch the Trump idiot on television yesterday. He’s crazy I think. Dementia? Early state Alzheimer’s? Something is definitely wrong. He’s always been a sleazy character but this is way past that. He’s just plain nuts.

  26. helenk3 Says:


    WOW a really good read

  27. helenk3 Says:


    why is this NOT a surprise?

  28. helenk3 Says:


    rotten choices

  29. helenk3 Says:


    good article
    keep fighting TED

  30. helenk3 Says:


    does this sound like the dems in 2008?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, yeah – he has made it SO easy to tell his minions, “no, thanks!”

  31. helenk3 Says:


    read this whole article. it is worth reading

  32. justine00 Says:

    Hey, RRRA. You’re a good pastor. Thanks for the thoughts.
    (Please delete one of my posts. Sorry about that…)

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks, justine! Truly my pleasure, friend!

      And I really have no idea why it was holding your comments. Bizarre!

  33. kenoshamarge Says:

    One of the thing that the Trumpanzees and those who are caving in to Trump for the good of the party are using to try and guilt us into voting for him is the Supreme Court. Daniel Horowitz was on the Steve Deace show last night and had an interesting and perhaps relevant argument about that. Because that is one of the things that really does concern me. Now? Not so much. Listen for yourself and see what you think:


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That is a concern for me as well, Marge – a BIG one. So thanks for that. I am listening to the show now.

      Would you mind moving this comment to the new post, too? It is well worth repeating!

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