Freedom of the Press *Open Thread*



One of the freedoms we as American most prize is freedom of the press. We believe this makes us different, safer and superior to societies that do not have freedom of the press. Without it we say you cannot have a free society. I agree. But what happens to that free society when the press abuses the freedom given to it by the Constitution? What happens when that “free” press is not an honest press? Does not “freedom” come with some obligations?

It is doubtful that most Americans know how much the media abuses that freedom yet there is an overwhelming distrust of the media by the public. The press which was once respected, it respected very little. A few “honest” reporters are hailed a something rare and special.

It wouldn’t be surprising if we didn’t respect tabloids with their nonsense or radio or television stations trash.  Although the public’s appetite for such swill would suggest otherwise. There are millions of Americans that enjoy the trash. Trash is often in the eye of the beholder. Or one’s man’s trash is another man’s entertainment. To each his own.

It doesn’t injure me if someone watches trash.  I do believe  a lack of quality programming and so much trash leads to a dumbing down of the culture. And leads to the seedy society we now take for granted. Especially for the young. Young minds are like computers, put garbage in and garbage comes out.

Tastes differ and there will always be those that prefer Burlesque and others that prefer opera. All well and good although not usually working all that well in the same household. Our household gets along mostly because I don’t like most “chick-flicks” and do like some action programs. I am, unashamedly a big, big fan of the Marvel Comic Movies and programs. Lou? Not so much.

Where the rubber  meets the road is when it comes to the “News. Of course newspapers are in decline. Many/most people in this tech age get their “news” on-line.

I am not so much concerned with the “where” as with the “what”. Freedom of the Press can benefit the freedom of the people only if it is an honest press. We don’t have that.

Some people get all upset and believe the media isn’t honest if it doesn’t report the “news” from the point of view that they like. Others know, that their POV isn’t going to be given an honest assessment from “reporters” that “report” from a position of an ideology.

I don’t care if a reporter is a conservative or a liberal so long as I can’t tell it from what they say. The truth doesn’t have a party. It just is.

We have more information coming at us then ever before. Yet many of us are more uninformed or misinformed than I can remember in my life time.

Is that all the fault of the media? Not at all. If we accept their trash then we are partly to blame. An honest media should tell the truth, report only the facts it knows and not knowingly represses facts or distorts them. Anything less is not “Freedom of the Press” so much as it is using the Constitution for their own gain. And boy howdy do they!

The media types that think they know what should be told to the peasantry by elite types like them are an epidemic in media.

Those that make it on-air make the kind of salaries most Americans can only dream about. Still they pretend to know what the “common” man/woman thinks. More like what they think we should think.

Many Most seem to be of the opinion that their opinion is more important than the facts, facts that they often refuse to report or don’t even know. They might be worth viewing if they were as smart as they think they are.

Far too many of our “elite” media types report rumors, innuendo and lies. In their arrogance they don’t  seem to understand that the more they do that the less respect people have for them. Or perhaps in their arrogance they don’t care.

Media talking heads and news readers should have to label what they do. If they are reporting facts then say so. “This is a verifiable fact” is a good way to start. “This is just my opinion” is another label that would be useful.  “This is just a rumor and I have no idea if it’s true but thought I would report some gossip for your entertainment” would round out my final three.

Most people sit in front of their television sets and swallow what ever swill the media is dishing up on any given day. Truth? Lies? Most say the media is corrupt and lies and yet there they sit. WTH is that all about?

If you believe you cannot trust the media do something about it. If they report something verify it for yourself in at least 3 different ways. If you can’t verify it – don’t believe it. Remember, media lies.

In conclusion, all those angry people that were so upset that the media chooses their candidates for president? They just did it again. So what did your anger get you? Once again, they win we lose.


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38 Responses to “Freedom of the Press *Open Thread*”

  1. helenk3 Says:

    sometimes i think that today’s “journalists” are really graduates of an online steno school.
    check facts are you crazy we don’t have time for that.

    wait a minute that was written in cursive, you know I can not read that

    well my second cousin’s husband is part of the regime that gives me an in and maybe a better paying job

    credibility that is so yesterday

  2. helenk3 Says:

    Amy do me a favor, please delete this video. it is not what a i wanted it to say. I was making fun of journalists, not other people and it comes off in the wrong way

  3. helenk3 Says:

    possible today in this country

  4. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Great piece, Marge. I thought this piece said so much, and is most appropos for your topic:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      The Liberal Media would so much rather be cheering on Elizabeth Warren or even Bernie Sanders. But they’re stuck with Hillary so they will help her as much as possible. They’ve already taken down enemy #1 in Ted Cruz so now it’s just Hillary vs Trump. And all they have to do is be somewhat quiet about Hillary’s negatives and let Trump “tweet” himself in negative territory. Women don’t like or want him, Hispanics certainly don’t and AA will get in line like good little Dems and vote for her.

      The media of course will showcase, from time to time, some Hispanic or woman or AA who is a Trump fan. Not a trend, an anomaly but they’ll make it seem like a big thing. Just doing what the media does – be dishonest.

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    Beltway Conservatives Need To Get Out Of Their Bubble On Trump

    Peggy Noonan’s most recent Wall Street Journal column has upset many who oppose Donald Trump. But their political communication seriously needs to improve.

    Thoughtful column by Hemingway I thought. And I am as guilty of not understanding Trump supporters as anyone. And I remain so. I cannot, and I’ve tried, understand how anyone can support this man.

    The fact that many of the same establishment types that excoriated him now support him is no surprise. They, like Trump, have no integrity or honesty. I just thought that most voters did.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I thought this was a great piece by Hemingway, too. But, like you, I cannot get the Trump supporter mindset. Thank God.

      I thought most voters would be smarter than this, too, especially after what the devotees of Obama wrought on this Nation. Guess I was wrong…

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

    Pretty much sums it up for me:

    I’m a constitutionalist who cares about virtue. Trump is simply not my guy. ~ Mollie Hemingway

  8. helenk3 Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I was just talking abt this with Suzy the other day – how the “Question Authority” people are now the ones who want the Gov’t to do EVERYTHING for them. The irony, the irony…

  9. helenk3 Says:
  10. helenk3 Says:

    WTH is this?

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Good question. Does Obama not want to be the face of the POTUS that ransomed this POS only to have him be court-martialed?

      Especially after Obama was feeling up Bergdahl’s mother in the Rose Garden.

  11. helenk3 Says:

    WOW check this out

  12. helenk3 Says:

    Thank you Amy for putting the voting cartoon on the side of the site

  13. helenk3 Says:

    i can not believe this. those is so totally against everything I was taught and try to live by

    • helenk3 Says:

      do you ever remember an election where you are told to forget your principles, your morals, your values and just vote for a really bad candidate? I do not

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I don’t care what this “man” calls himself, he’s no Pastor. In what possible universe does a man of God say character and morality don’t’ matter?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That is APPALLING. I cannot believe his congregation is okay with that kind of mealy mouthed mentality abt MORALITY and CHARACTER. To me, he has diminished any credibility he could ever have had. I would find another church were I one of his parishoners. WOW.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I would immediately leave that church. The man obviously has no connection to God. Playing politics in a church is IMO obscene. There should be one place we can go to find peace and truth.

  14. helenk3 Says:

    something to watch

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      This country owes a lot to Judicial Watch. At least the part of the country that cares about the truth.

  15. helenk3 Says:

    what does backtrack’s backer know?

  16. helenk3 Says:

    Gowdy and Chaffee on rhondes no show

  17. helenk3 Says:

    do we laugh or cry?

  18. helenk3 Says:

    AP: US Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky wins Republican nomination in pursuit of 2nd term

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I would be a lot more supportive of Rand Paul if he hadn’t supported Mitch McConnell. That makes him suspect in my mind.

  19. helenk3 Says:

    media failure

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Glenn Beck and the Blaze are doing some really good work on getting the truth out. Unfortunately I don’t go there often because for some reason the site always locks up my computer. The same with the Daily Caller and a couple of others. Why them and not others I have to idea.

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