On Socialism, Minimum Wage, And Free Speech (Or Lack Thereof) *Open Thread*


ap_sanders_warriors_dc_160530_12x5_1600As Bernie Sanders continues his improbable run for President of the United States, and avowed Socialist calling out for “Revolution!” and decrying the inequality of, well, everything, what Socialism really is eludes most of his young followers (and some older ones, too). And like so many Socialists, his hanging out at an NBA game with a famous actor (Danny Glover) highlights the hypocrisy of so many Socialists, Sanders included. But no doubt, his little supporters won’t mind that ONE little bit because it makes him “cool.” Ugh.

And while I realize facts, history, and reality don’t amount to a hill of beans these days, it is still important to put it out there for those who may be sitting on the fence between reason and emotion.

That is just what Thomas Sowell does in this EXCELLENT piece, “Socialism For The Uninformed.” About Socialism Sowell writes:


While throngs of young people are cheering loudly for avowed socialist Bernie Sanders, socialism has turned oil-rich Venezuela into a place where there are shortages of everything from toilet paper to beer, where electricity keeps shutting down, and where there are long lines of people hoping to get food, people complaining that they cannot feed their families.

With national income going down, and prices going up under triple-digit inflation in Venezuela, these complaints are by no means frivolous. But it is doubtful if the young people cheering for Bernie Sanders have even heard of such things, whether in Venezuela or in other countries around the world that have turned their economies over to politicians and bureaucrats to run.

The anti-capitalist policies in Venezuela have worked so well that the number of companies in Venezuela is now a fraction of what it once was. That should certainly reduce capitalist “exploitation,” shouldn’t it?

But people who attribute income inequality to capitalists exploiting workers, as Karl Marx claimed, never seem to get around to testing that belief against facts — such as the fact that none of the Marxist regimes around the world has ever had as high a standard of living for working people as there is in many capitalist countries.

Well there Sowell goes with those facts again! Yep, the poor downtrodden workers about whom Socialists like Sanders whines (incessantly) are better off – and I would suggest, by a LOT – under a CAPITALIST system, not a Socialist one, no matter how feel good-y that system might sound.

Sowell continues to discuss the empty rhetoric of the Left on Socialism, along with the many unasked questions about assertions made about it. He then pivots to the issue of Minimum Wage, which seems to go hand-in-hand with the push to Socialism. On that topic, Sowell presents these STAGGERING statistics. His article in Townhall continues:


Back in 1948, when inflation had rendered meaningless the minimum wage established a decade earlier, the unemployment rate among 16-17-year-old black males was under 10 percent. But after the minimum wage was raised repeatedly to keep up with inflation, the unemployment rate for black males that age was never under 30 percent for more than 20 consecutive years, from 1971 through 1994. In many of those years, the unemployment rate for black youngsters that age exceeded 40 percent and, for a couple of years, it exceeded 50 percent.

The damage is even greater than these statistics might suggest. Most low-wage jobs are entry-level jobs that young people move up out of, after acquiring work experience and a track record that makes them eligible for better jobs. But you can’t move up the ladder if you don’t get on the ladder.

The great promise of socialism is something for nothing. It is one of the signs of today’s dumbed-down education that so many college students seem to think that the cost of their education should — and will — be paid by raising taxes on “the rich.”

Here again, just a little check of the facts would reveal that higher tax rates on upper-income earners do not automatically translate into more tax revenue coming in to the government. Often high tax rates have led to less revenue than lower tax rates. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

One need only look at this recent revelation by fast-food company, Wendy’s. That is they will be instituting 6,000 AUTOMATED kiosks as a result of the demand for higher Minimum Wage. In other words, that is a huge number of jobs lost right there because of the unrealistic demand to pay unskilled laborers such a high amount of money. We tried to tell them.

Fact and reason just do not seem to have a place in their world, though, especially, SADLY, on the university level (Sowell noted the impact of universities in pushing Socialism). And neither does the First Amendment apparently, as this Daily Signal piece makes clear:


The DePaul College Republicans were scheduling an event with a popular but highly controversial speaker, Milo Yiannopoulos, earlier this year.

They immediately hit a snag when they discovered that DePaul has a stated policy requiring a ratio of security to attendees of between 1:50 and 1:75. For their event of 550 attendees, DePaul was required to hire 8 guards for $960.

This might be difficult and might reduce the amount of events that occur on campus, because applying such a policy does place a burden on small student groups that have a hard time raising the money to fund such events.

Nevertheless, at least this policy was publicly available and evenly applied (except it wasn’t).


According to Jorin Burkhart, an executive board member of DePaul College Republicans, “non-conservative groups are able to hold events without being required to have security.” At DePaul, the College Republicans hosting Yiannopoulos are stuck with an inflated bill.

The “security” meanwhile did nothing to stop attacks by assailants, one of whom even threatened to hit the speaker in the face. According to the event organizers, the administration had promised the College Republicans that it would remove disruptors from the event. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

silencedThe article continues that the Police were called in, but were also told not to intervene, thus putting these students, and the speaker, at risk of bodily harm.

That is just stunning to me. But it is this narrow mindedness, this refusal to hear or allow anyone else to speak that does not toe the Left Party line,t hat has allowed Socialism to become so accepted, and even embraced, by young people in this country.

Simply put, they don’t know any better because the very people charged with educating them are teaching them propaganda instead, and making clear that any dissent will be punished. That includes Free Speech.

That should not be allowed to stand, but I can’t see this current DOJ standing up to any university, much less on in Chicago, and doing something about it.

And that, my friends, is a sad state of affairs.

At least that’s what I think. How about you? This is an Open Thread.


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75 Responses to “On Socialism, Minimum Wage, And Free Speech (Or Lack Thereof) *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I often wonder when I see those cheering Sanders voters how they can cheer something of which they know so little. How can you be for something if you don’t know all about something?

    This isn’t about picking a brand of soap or something inconsequential, this is about selecting a POTUS. Such ignorance and fecklessness amazes me. I should be used to it by now but I still cannot wrap my head around it. We have become a talking point country and that is a sure road to destruction.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is truly astonishing, isn’t it? This is what has become of this country, a total superficial reality where it is all abt “American Idol” as opposed to a sober, intelligent, grounded person to be the Leader of the Free World. Our young people are so woefully ignorant of how this country was founded, how it is run, and what is at stake when we elect leaders, it is truly disconcerting.

      Not to be a pessimist, mind you! 🙂 But yeah – it is hard to fathom…

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

  3. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    One of our regulars, piper, mentioned climate change the other day. I meant to come back to it to say the climate may well be changing – it always DOES change. I was thinking abt our cruise and how just 10,000 short years ago, the area where we were in lower Chile, had been covered in ice – meters and meters of ice. Now, it is a lush rainforest (still cool, though). So no doubt the climates in the world change – they have for millennia. And they will continue to do so, like the Mini-Ice Age NASA has warned us is coming.

    The planet is a living, breathing creation, and it is also not perfectly round, so even as it turns on its axis, it isn’t a perfect revolution. It wobbles a bit. Things happen!

    I don’t consider myself a “Climate change denier,” or anything, and I care deeply abt the Environment. But I do have problems with the science being cooked to fit a specific ideology or political bent, and to generate business for some companies over others based on faulty data. THAT I have a problem with, I have to say. And, that those who speak out against the manipulation of data are treated as pariahs.

    Anyway, just thinking abt that this morning and wanted to say more abt it…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Politics has perverted so much in this country and science has not been immune. Justice certainly hasn’t. A free and unbiased press surely is not. And those that would and do pervert these things are the enemies of a free society. At least I see them as such.

      I too care about the planet. I recycle, compost and certainly do less damage than those who jet around complaining about those of us that don’t/won’t accept their vision/version of the world.

      • amarissa Says:

        I too recycle and find it funny that some of my Democrat friends do not!

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Truly many of those folks are “do as I say, not as I do.”

        Thankfully, our county has a very generous range of recyclables, which is a good thing indeed. They even recycle used motor oil, electronics, batteries, all kinds of things.

        Indeed, many of these agencies pervert their conclusions to fit an ideological narrative. It is frustrating as hell, and also costs us financially and in terms of society…

    • GinaR Says:

      Well, I’ll say it then. I’m a Climate Change Denier. Oh, I don’t doubt the climate is changing. It’s been doing that since the dawn of time. Far far longer than humankind has been around. It’s part of the cycle of this earth. And while I believe humans need to limit pollution and take care of this earth on behalf of all her inhabitants, I do not believe we are so powerful that we can affect the climate the way the Climate Change Pushers are forcing us to believe. Mother Earth does not need us to ensure her longevity. We need her. She was here for billions of years before us, and she’ll be here – and thrive – long after we’ve become extinct. Our care of this Earth is not for her, it is for US, because WE rely on HER for our very life. And yes, for the animals who share this Earth with us, and who would be fine were it not for our mess. But this I know, once we have left this earth, she will revert back to her natural state of health and abundance and lushness in the blink of a cosmic eye.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Isn’t is amazing that Sanders talks so much about the “higher” quality of living in Scandinavia and so little about the disaster in Venezuela? Of course Scandinavia isn’t actually Socialistic – they are mostly just nanny states and they are beginning to fail because of it.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, yeah – just like he and the Dems fail to mention WHY Puerto Rico is such an incredible disaster financially, or Greece, or Cuba, and on and on. With Cuba, Obama wants us to think they have been completely isolated from the world and by us opening up relations with them, all will be well. That is just ridiculous on its face since other countries, like Canada, and many in Europe, have no problems traveling there. Dishonesty and misrepresentation seems to be their forte.

      As for Denmark, I posted a while back abt the PM there telling Bernie to shut the hell up, that they are NOT a Socialist country. And you are right abt the others, too. Here’s a WaPo article on this very topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/03/why-denmark-isnt-the-utopian-fantasy-bernie-sanders-describes/

      • amarissa Says:

        Hi, all!

        Let me add a few points here as a Cuban exile (first in the fifty’s and then since 1961 to the present) and former resident of Puerto Rico. Unfortunately, Puerto Rico is a very small island compared to Cuba and Venezuela. It is only 110.5 mi. by 35 nautical miles (40.3 mi; 64.8 km). Therefore, it’s possibilities of generating a lot of money through manufacturing and exports are limited. Cuba is rich in agriculture (except the communist government ruined it by placing inept growers who harmed their sugar industry and others).

        Puerto Rico was doing very well when the US made a treaty allowing tax free incentives for 10 years to American companies who would place factories and big laboratory firms (as Eli Lilly, Travenol Baxter and many others) in their most needed towns in order to generate jobs. They are very good and skilled workers. However, Puerto Rico is a reflection of our economy and if we are doing bad, they are doing worse. Another not mentioned enough fact is how many Puerto Ricans have given their lives to protect our nation. Also, sadly, as in most countries, including ours, politicians have not acted in the best interest of their people.

        “Commencing with World War I, Puerto Ricans and people of Puerto Rican descent have participated as members of the United States Armed Forces in every conflict in which the United States has been involved. Accordingly, thousands of Puerto Ricans served in the Armed Forces of the United States during the Vietnam War, also known as the Second Indochina War. Hundreds of them died, either killed in action (KIA)or while prisoners of war (POW).

        Puerto Ricans served in different positions throughout the military as commanders, fighter pilots and common foot soldiers. Many of them distinguished themselves in combat and were awarded the highest honors conferred by the military. Five were awarded the Medal of Honor, the highest United States military decoration; five were awarded the Distinguished Service Cross (DSC), the second-highest military decoration of the United States Army; and two received the Navy Cross, the second-highest medal that can be awarded by the U.S. Navy. The Navy Cross is awarded to members of the U.S. Navy or U.S. Marine Corps for heroism or distinguished service.”

        Cuba was economically rich before Castro. The dollar was at par with the national “peso” and both currencies ran equally within the island. Just as the Guantanamo base in Cuba, there are also many US bases in Puerto Rico as well as many National Guard troops. In the case of Venezuela, it was also very rich due to their oil industry but sadly, they too fell in communist hands due to corrupted leaders.

        Sorry for the long post but I wanted to express some differences between the countries mentioned.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Wow, amarissa – I don’t think I knew you were an exile from Cuba!!

          Thank you for spelling out the differences between the two countries.

          And you are right that many Puerto Ricans have given their lives for our country. I am familiar with a lot that went on with Puerto Rico in the past, and how some things have changed (like getting Naval games out of VIeques, a beautiful fishing – now also big tourist – destination).

          And I totally understand what you mean abt their economy does worse when ours does, but it is my understanding, and correct me if I am wrong, that they engaged in a lot of entitlement spending which is why they need a bailout now. That is what I mean by their being more Socialist in nature and why they – and we – are paying the price for it.

          Puerto Rico DOES have natural resources, at least according to people with whom I spoke years ago who were upset at how their textbook were written, but yes, they are dependent in many ways on the US, including the military.

          So yeah, my point was more how their gov’t has acted in terms of entitlement spending. Sorry if I wasn’t clear on that and thank you so much for the very informative comment!

          • amarissa Says:

            Thank you for understanding and for your interest.

            Yes I am Cuban and have lived in the US for many, many years. First in the fifties and then went back to Cuba when my parents divorced when I was about ten years old. I could only stay there for about two years because Castro took over and we had to leave again. At the beginning we were for Castro because we did not like the dictator (Batista). Sadly, happiness lasted very little when Castro declared himself a communist. My mother became a revolutionary against him for two years until she had to seek asylum in the Brazilian embassy because they were really after her and her group of fighters. Bay of Pigs was really bad for the internal groups fighting against Castro. Most of them were killed and imprisoned. Thank God we managed to save my mother. It’s a long story and I am very proud of my mother (who passed away some years ago). She loved this country more than anyone I know and she reflected that love in me. I now consider this my country more than any other. This of course does not mean that I am not proud of my heritage, which I am. I loved the time I spent in Cuba, it was really a beautiful country and was very advanced not only in science but in arts, agriculture, tourism, among many other things. I have never been back and will never go back unless there are free elections and we have a democratic system.

            In the case of Puerto Rico, it is very much like we see here when Democrats are in power. They are all for entitlements vs the Republicans which are not. In Puerto Rico there are two main parties: New Progressive Party and the Popular Democratic Party. The latter is like our Democrat Party and the other is the equivalent of the Republican Party. So the money goes out the same way. Unfortunately, as we have here, they both lie. We the people are always the ones that are hurt. A lot of politicians are crooks (don’t we know it!) and they steal in different ways. Some are caught and some are not. Puerto Rico has had good governors and bad ones (they do not have presidents, highest law of the land are governors). Their president is the president of the US. By the way, we also had very big bailouts… What I mean is that politics is the same in every country, there are crooks and there are honest politicians. The only reason Trump wants to be friends with Cuba is because he wants to take his hotels and casinos to the island. HE is the biggest crook I have known!

            Having said all that, I believe that the US is the best country to live in because it is the closest thing to a real Democracy. Like I always say regarding politicians, I will choose the least bad. Latin countries, unfortunately, have had and still have a big share of dictators and communists. This is because of corrupt politicians and parties which are not held accountable as they are here. The people in these countries, or in most of them, are mostly poor and low middle classes and vote hoping they will get a chance to make it better and get an education to improve their lives. That is not the case of Puerto Rico because of their connection the the US. Cuba, being bigger and richer did not need to depend on the US. They had a business relation. We had a President because we were a Republic, not an associated state like PR. And still, due to the corruption of Cuban Presidents, we fell into communist hands.

            So, I thank God to live in the best area of the world and that is why we have to protect it from dictators like Donald Trump and socialists like Sanders. People are hurting here too and many, many have no means of support because they have lost everything. I want a President for and of the people and I sure hope we can get one although, right now, there is no one in sight!

      • piper Says:

        Sweden’s taxes are approx. 51% of a person’s salary which the government used to provided cradle to grave care as needed. Unfortunately many refugees that Sweden accepted in the last 30/40 years do not care to work and just want the benefits but like to complain about how badly they’re treated.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Amarissa, what a great story you have! I am so glad your family came here, and that you call the USA home. We are fortunate to have you!

        And your mother – wow, what an incredible role model she must have been for you. What strength, determination, passion, and courage it must have taken for her to stand up against the Castro regime.

        Fascinating life story – just fascinating! Thanks so much for sharing it with us.

        And you are so, so right abt politicians. You hit the nail on the head.

        As for Trump, what a good observation. I would not be one bit surprised if that was his motivation. UGH. Blech. Grrrrrr.

        Thank you so much! (And if you ever feel like writing a post abt what you have seen and what your family went through, that would be fantastic!)

        • amarissa Says:

          Thank you so much for your kind and touching words. Yours is the only blog I comment on since I do not like to write things on the web but I love you guys here and I remember you so fondly from the PUMA days. You are the closest people I read that see things as I do. Others are either too radical or leaning to the left. You guys are fair and just and maintain a great and inviting atmosphere. I am not scared to express my feelings here and welcome your replies even when we don’t agree.

          Maybe some day I will take you up on your invitation to write.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            I am truly honored by your response, amarissa. Thank you for that. Truly, it means a great deal to me that you feel that way, and that you feel comfortable enough to comment here. That is no small thing, especially these days! Thank YOU for your lovely response!

            I think that would be amazing if you decided to write something. No pressure, of course, just if you are interested in doing so.

          • kenoshamarge Says:

            Thank you for sharing your story with us Amarissa. And we are fortunate to have Rev Amy’s blog as a place where we can express what we think without being swarmed by Trumpanzees. Glad you came and please comment often. We may not always agree but we can agree to disagree respectfully and thoughtfully. I believe before the world became so rancorous it was called having a conversation. How boring if everyone agreed with everyone about every thing. The world would be a simple shade of gray and we would lose the rainbows of life.

            • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

              So, so true, Marge. It DID use to be having a conversation. Now people seem to want to beat other people down with a bludgeon until they either concede defeat or switch sides. It does little more than heighten anger and/or silence people.

              Indeed, it would be boring if everyone agreed with everything, wouldn’t it?

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

  6. helenk3 Says:

    I grew up with these. I can see them making a big comeback

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I think we’ll see their like in a lot of fast food places if the fools keep insisting that salaries go to $15 and hour for what is basically entry level jobs. And where will young people with no job experience or looking for summer jobs go?

      Those that scream and yell and demand more money for flipping burgers than our military people make are insane and unbelievably greedy. No, you can’t raise a family on the salary of a fast food employee – you were never meant to. You were meant to use the experience you got working at such places as a stepping stone.

      I started my work life at 15 as a car hop. Remember them? Then I got ambitious and moved up to being a waitress. And from there I worked and learned and became a Receptionist. Then a Secretary-Receptionist. I then did that in one capacity or another for 35 years.

  7. helenk3 Says:

    bernies common core math

  8. helenk3 Says:

    please cancel the post I just entered.
    I was trying to show the discounts for 50 or over and got too much info

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Hey, I was just going to email you abt that. It ended up in Moderation. I would be happy to put up the discounts you found though!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      This comes via Helen, some good info for those of us over 50: helenk3 says:
      May 31, 2016 at 11:23 am

      this was on facebook

      As I was waiting in line behind an older gentleman at Wendy’s recently,I heard him ask for his senior discount. The girl at the register apologized and
      charged him less. When I asked the man what the discount was, he told me that
      seniors over age 55 …get 10% off everything on the menu, every day. (But you need to ASK for your discount.)

      Being of ‘that’ age myself, I figured I might as well ask for the discount too.
      this incident prompted me to do some research, and I came across a list of restaurants, supermarkets, department stores, travel deals and other types of offers giving various discounts with different age requirements. I was actually surprised to see how many there are and howsome of them start at the young age of 50 .
      This list may not only be useful for you, but for your friends and family too.

      Dunkin Donuts gives free coffee to people over 55 .
      If you’re paying for a cup every day, you might want to start getting it for FREE.

      YOU must ASK for your discount !

      Applebee’s: 15% off with Golden Apple Card (60+)
      Arby’s: 10% off ( 55 +)
      Ben & Jerry’s: 10% off (60+)
      Bennigan’s: discount varies by location (60+)
      Bob’s Big Boy: discount varies by location (60+)
      Boston Market: 10% off (65+)
      Burger King: 10% off (60+)
      Chick-Fil-A: 10% off or free small drink or coffee ( 55+)
      Chili’s: 10% off ( 55+)
      CiCi’s Pizza: 10% off (60+)
      Denny’s: 10% off, 20% off for AARP members ( 55 +)
      Dunkin’ Donuts: 10% off or free coffee ( 55+)
      Einstein’s Bagels: 10% off baker’s dozen of bagels (60+)
      Fuddrucker’s: 10% off any senior platter ( 55+)
      Gatti’s Pizza: 10% off (60+)
      Golden Corral: 10% off (60+)
      Hardee’s: $0.33 beverages everyday (65+)
      IHOP: 10% off ( 55+)
      Jack in the Box: up to 20% off ( 55+)
      KFC: free small drink with any meal ( 55+)
      Krispy Kreme: 10% off ( 50+)
      Long John Silver’s: various discounts at locations ( 55+)
      McDonald’s: discounts on coffee everyday ( 55+)
      Mrs. Fields: 10% off at participating locations (60+)
      Shoney’s: 10% off
      Sonic: 10% off or free beverage (60+)
      Steak ‘n Shake: 10% off every Monday & Tuesday ( 50+)
      Subway: 10% off (60+)
      Sweet Tomatoes: 10% off (62+)
      Taco Bell : 5% off; free beverages for seniors (65+)
      TCBY: 10% off ( 55+)
      Tea Room Cafe: 10% off ( 50+)
      Village Inn: 10% off (60+)
      Waffle House: 10% off every Monday (60+)
      Wendy’s: 10% off ( 55 +)
      Whataburger: 10% off (62+)
      White Castle: 10% off (62+) This is for me … if I ever see one again.

      Banana Republic: 30% off ( 50 +)
      Bealls: 20% off first Tuesday of each month ( 50 +)
      Belk’s: 15% off first Tuesday of every month ( 55 +)
      Big Lots: 30% off
      Bon-Ton Department Stores: 15% off on senior discount days ( 55 +)
      C.J. Banks: 10% off every Wednesday (50+)
      Clarks : 10% off (62+)
      Dress Barn: 20% off ( 55+)
      Goodwill: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
      Hallmark: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
      Kmart: 40% off (Wednesdays only) ( 50+)
      Kohl’s: 15% off (60+)Modell’s Sporting Goods: 30% off
      Rite Aid: 10% off on Tuesdays & 10% off prescriptions
      Ross Stores: 10% off every Tuesday ( 55+)
      The Salvation Army Thrift Stores: up to 50% off ( 55+)
      Stein Mart: 20% off red dot/clearance items first Monday of every month ( 55 +)

      GROCERY :
      Albertson’s: 10% off first Wednesday of each month ( 55 +)
      American Discount Stores: 10% off every Monday ( 50 +)
      Compare Foods Supermarket: 10% off every Wednesday (60+)
      DeCicco Family Markets: 5% off every Wednesday (60+)
      Food Lion: 60% off every Monday (60+)
      Fry’s Supermarket: free Fry’s VIP Club Membership & 10% off every Monday ( 55 +)
      Great Valu Food Store: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
      Gristedes Supermarket: 10% off every Tuesday (60+)
      Harris Teeter: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
      Hy-Vee: 5% off one day a week (date varies by location)
      Kroger: 10% off (date varies by location)
      Morton Williams Supermarket: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
      The Plant Shed: 10% off every Tuesday ( 50 +)
      Publix: 15% off every Wednesday ( 55 +)
      Rogers Marketplace: 5% off every Thursday (60+)
      Uncle Guiseppe’s Marketplace: 15% off (62+)

      TRAVEL :
      Alaska Airlines: 50% off (65+)
      American Airlines: various discounts for 50% off non-peak periods (Tuesdays – Thursdays) (62+)and up (call before booking for discount)
      Continental Airlines: no initiation fee for Continental Presidents Club & special fares for select destinations
      Southwest Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before booking for discount)
      United Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before booking for discount)
      U.S. Airways: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before booking for discount)
      Amtrak: 15% off (62+)
      Greyhound: 15% off (62+)
      Trailways Transportation System: various discounts for ages 50+

      Car Rental:
      Alamo Car Rental: up to 25% off for AARP members
      Avis: up to 25% off for AARP members
      Budget Rental Cars: 40% off; up to 50% off for AARP members ( 50+)
      Dollar Rent-A-Car: 10% off ( 50+) Enterprise Rent-A-Car: 5% off for AARP members Hertz: up to 25% off for AARP members
      National Rent-A-Car: up to 30% off for AARP members

      Overnight Accommodations:
      Holiday Inn: 20-40% off depending on location (62+)
      Best Western: 40% off (55+)
      Cambria Suites: 20%-30% off (60+)
      Waldorf Astoria – NYC $5,000 off nightly rate for Presidential Suite (55 +)
      Clarion Motels: 20%-30% off (60+)
      Comfort Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
      Comfort Suites: 20%-30% off (60+)
      Econo Lodge: 40% off (60+)
      Hampton Inns & Suites: 40% off when booked 72 hours in advance
      Hyatt Hotels: 25%-50% off (62+)
      InterContinental Hotels Group: various discounts at all hotels (65+)
      Mainstay Suites: 10% off with Mature Traveler’s Discount (50+); 20%-30% off (60+)
      Marriott Hotels: 25% off (62+)
      Motel 6: Stay Free Sunday nights (60+)
      Myrtle Beach Resort: 30% off ( 55 +)
      Quality Inn: 40%-50% off (60+)
      Rodeway Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
      Sleep Inn: 40% off (60+)

      AMC Theaters: up to 30% off ( 55 +)
      Bally Total Fitness: $100 off memberships (62+)
      Busch Gardens Tampa, FL: $13 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)
      Carmike Cinemas: 35% off (65+)
      Cinemark/Century Theaters: up to 35% off
      Massage Envy – NYC 20% off all “Happy Endings” (62 +)
      U.S. National Parks: $10 lifetime pass; 50% off additional services including camping (62+)
      Regal Cinemas: 50% off Ripley’s Believe it or Not: @ off one-day ticket ( 55 +)
      SeaWorld, Orlando , FL : $3 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)

      AT&T: Special Senior Nation 200 Plan $19.99/month (65+)
      Jitterbug: $10/month cell phone service ( 50 +)
      Verizon Wireless: Verizon Nationwide 65 Plus Plan $29.99/month (65+).

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  9. amarissa Says:

    How about Trump’s disaster this afternoon??? I saw it live and was shocked by how far he went this time. He insulted reporters even calling one of them a sleaze to his face! He also said, when asked if he would continue on this path if he became president, that he would not change his ways. I truly do not understand how anyone can support this trash of a man! Today, the judge will put out all documents regarding Trump University so that the press and the people can reach their own conclusions regarding this case. I sure hope it works against him.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      The man has absolutely no self-control. Trumpanzees are chortling with glee that Trump told them damn reporters. Yes he did. He told them he is a 70 year old adolescent who throws a Trumpertanrum if he’s asked serious questions. And while I respect the service of the Marine that spoke, and told the media to pull their heads out of their butts, I do not respect his opinion. What a disgraceful exhibition for someone who wants to be POTUS.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I totally missed it (doctor’s app’t). I am not at all surprised that he was trashing people to their faces. We have told them and told them and told them, and just like the Obot/Trumpanzee types they are, all we got was put down for our efforts. Now maybe the media will report on what an ASS he is.

      I am so, so glad the judge released all those documents. I hope they show what a piece of work he really is. Bwahahahahaha…

  10. piper Says:

    Keeping fingers crossed that this cartoon shows up. I luv it.

  11. piper Says:

    Putting my beautiful tin foil hat on again to explain why Donald Drumpf is running as a Republican – to destroy the Republican Party. I’m not sure that he is a registered Republican in his home state, NY. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he was still registered as a Democrat.

  12. piper Says:

    A bit concerned about the way the media/news companies are handling any dissent about Drumpf. Say anything negative about him and you get spanked or suspended.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      This is really surprising. I wonder if someone on the Left had made a similar hypothetical statement abt Trump would they have done the same thing? In any event, it is a tad curious…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      You really had to twist Brad Thor’s comment to get anything about assassination out of them. But twisting words is what Trumpanzees delight in doing. Honesty isn’t in their DNA.

      The funny thing about the whole 1 week suspension of Beck is that he’s on vacation in Florida this week. He’s posting vacation images on FB so I hear. So I guess he got his wrist slapped very lightly.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I was just stunned that Sirius twisted his words so. Just incredible what impact Trump is already having – it portends the danger of a Trump Presidency…

  13. amarissa Says:

    By the way, I am retired and have a lot of free time so if you ever need help in doing research, I will gladly do it. I love to fact check and do it all the time to my friends who send dubious recycled articles that they do not take the time to research before hitting the “forward” button.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOL – good for you for being the Factchecker, amarissa! Heaven knows, this country could use a whole lot more like you before they pass along articles that should hit the “recycle bin”! 😀

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Good for you. Some of the things my friends send me as “fact” are unbelievable. Like you I like to “check” before sending them on or posting them. I’ve been burned a time or two by my failure to check the facts so I am now more careful. Sometimes it’s hard when you get sent something that you really want to believe but better than being fooled by nonsense.

      • amarissa Says:

        Right! Sometimes my friends get pissed off because I tell them it is not true (I send them proof) but I do not like to send lies no matter which party it affects.

  14. amarissa Says:

    CNN just released the name of the man who might run as a third option for Republicans. This was the man Kristol was talking about. I googled it and found this on Fox News. I do not think he stands a chance…
    National Review staff writer David French for independent presidential run

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      A friend had a link abt this at Facebook. I don’t know this guy at ALL. I appreciate Kristol’s wanting to find a third option, but shouldn’t it be someone people KNOW?!?!?!?

      • amarissa Says:

        This is an upside battle with this man. He might be a great person and a patriot but he will not win. We need a big name. I like Romney because he has been vetted and is truly a great business man. I know some of you do not agree, but I really think he is the only one that has a chance.

        There is now a group called Republicans for Hillary (which I did not know. An ex Reagan aide is now talking about it on CNN. He is one of them. He is voting Democrat for the first time in his life.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I would joyfully vote for Romney. Not only is he smart as hell, a great businessman, family man, he is a DECENT man. That is no small thing. He has been vetted, he is experienced on a host of levels, and would be a MUCH better President than either of the two people the Parties are putting up.

          Honestly, I am not surprised abt the Reps. for Hillary. She, at least, is a known commodity. Trump is insane.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I’ve been reading David French’s articles for some time. He’s a terrific man. I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance but I don’t think that’s the intention. I think the intention is to keep Hillary and Trump from getting the win and throwing it to the house.

        I could easily vote for French and my poor abused nose would thank me for voting for someone with no nose holding like I did for Ted Cruz in the primary.

  15. amarissa Says:

    Doug Elmets is his name

  16. amarissa Says:


  17. amarissa Says:

    I just heard (for the first time) an interview with independent candidate Gary Johnson. I liked what he said on social issues. He is for marriage equality for gays and for free choice for women (even though I would have never had an abortion but I respect the rights of a woman who wants to do it). What say you guys on Gary? I remember someone here did not like him, is he a fake too? Is he a bad choice also?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I don’t know if you caught this post the other day or not, but I did a piece on the Libertarians right before their Convention. There are a few links for Johnson’s stand on a bunch of issues. He is basically socially liberal and fiscally conservative. He reminds me a bit of Kasich (whom I don’t like), but his running mate, Gov. Bill Weld (MA) is a solid guy (he was Governor when I lived in MA). Here’s the link: https://rabblerouserruminations.wordpress.com/2016/05/26/coming-in-third-open-thread/

      And to answer your question, I could vote for Johnson easily. That said, I know there are some here who don’t care for him. He isn’t my favorite, but yeah, I could vote for him.

      • amarissa Says:

        Well, good to know. I do not think he is my favorite either because Libertarians do not approve of too much military and therefore I do not trust them regarding our safety. Safety is my number one issue, then the economy. But I will read your post and keep hoping for another option..

        By the way, just read this headline on Twitchy and thought it was great! Love black humor!

        “Hillary Clinton shocked by just how many interviews she’s done; When’s the FBI’s turn? “

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          LOL abt the headline- good one!

          I hear you abt the military and keeping us safe. Our military has been treated like dirt by this Administration. And yes, we do need a strong military. No doubt abt it. So yeah, definitely a sticking point there…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        He isn’t my favorite and I don’t like his stand on many issues. However there is no chance he will win but he could play the part of a spoiler for the two major party candidates. I would certainly vote for him against those two.

        I also think it’s important for either 3rd Party or LP candidate get enough votes to poke the complacent GOP in the butt with a sharp stick and show that we do too have someplace else to go.

  18. mcnorman Says:

    I was a bit surprised at the who is who of corrupt countries.

  19. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Gee – what a shock abt these funds to Vets. ANd people want to claim Trump isn’t a politician?? Please: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/06/01/big-trump-checks-vets-groups-sent-day-media-report.html

  20. helenk3 Says:


    we have a really “strange” dept of justice in this country

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