Just STOP IT With The False Equivalency Already *Open Thread*

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I’m talking to YOU, President Obama, your wife, the Democrats, and CNN’s Anderson Cooper. And I am talking about the responses to the ISIS terror attack in a gay nightclub in Orlando.

Honest to God, I wish Obama got as upset with radical Islamic terrorists waging attacks on our country as he does with political opponents on the other side of the aisle, but that seems to be a bridge too far for him. He is ANGRY that Republicans want him, the President United States, to actually NAME the terrorists responsible for yet another terror attack on our shores under his “watch.” But nooooooo, that is just stupid to name the enemy in Obama’s opinion. From The Federalist:

[…]

“That’s the key, they say,” Obama said, eviscerating the GOP. “We can’t defeat them unless we call them radical Islamists. What exactly would using this label accomplish? What exactly would it change?”

A lot, actually.

As a matter of realpolitik, perhaps it makes sense to avoid the phrase “radical Islam.” We don’t want to offend the Mullahs, theocratic sheiks, oligarchic princes, Arab strongmen, and future junta leaders of the Middle East. We need to work with these people, after all. What should bother you, though, is that Obama constantly tries to chill speech by insinuating that anyone who does associate violence with radical Islam—which includes millions of adherents—is a bigot. This is a president who also intimates that anyone who is critical of everyday Islam’s widespread illiberalism—for example, all nations where homosexuality is punishable by death are Muslim—is also a bigot.

It’s not as if Obama shies away from lecturing people about faith. Saying the words “radical Islam” is a step too far, but bringing up events from the year 1095 to create a tortured moral equivalence is just fine. Not only has Obama implored us to avoid critical rhetoric about Islam, but he demands that Americans (secular apostates like myself included) act as if all faiths are equally tolerant of our lives. This is the president who tells the world that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” Can you imagine Obama going to the United Nations General Assembly and declaring the same for Jesus Christ? […] (Click here to read the rest.)

No kidding – like THAT would ever happen. But yes, it is far, far better, in Obama’s mind, to attack Republicans for wanting Obama to actually call Islamic terrorists terrorists than to direct his ire at the TERRORISTS. There is something really, really screwed up about that mindset.

Let’s be clear about something right here. The mindset of ISIS towards gay people can be summed up in two words: KILL THEM. It is really that simple. From another Federalist piece:

[…]

On May 9, 2016, ISIS thugs blindfolded an unidentified man and threw him off a five-story building in Manbij, a city in the Aleppo province of Syria. A mob of hundreds of people, including children, gathered below the building to witness this execution. Repugnantly, the mob stoned the victim’s body after it hit the ground, probably to make sure he was dead, if not to symbolically partake in the execution.

This was not the first time ISIS committed such an act, for it executed a number of homosexuals in Mosul and in Raqqa this way. Sunday we witnessed an Islamist who had declared his allegiance to ISIS gun down many people at a gay nightclub in Florida.

There is a pattern in the way ISIS and its supporters execute those it alleges are homosexual: ISIS usually, although not always, has them thrown off of tall buildings. As inhumane as these executions may be, murdering homosexuals in this way does not come from a nihilistic urge for carnage. No, these are cold and calculated steps taken by murderers who believe they serve God through such acts. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

The article also highlights the recent call by a powerful imam for followers to wage attacks against Americans and Europeans. And so they have done.

But for reasons that defy any reason or logic, the Obamas, including Michelle, the focus away from the actual motivation of the terrorists is astonishing. That would be precisely what CNN’s Anderson Cooper did when he conflated the motivations of a radical Islamist who committed a heinous terrorist attack to the Attorney General of Florida’s support for traditional marriage. From The Right Scoop:

 

Wow. This is an astonishing affront to journalism. For Anderson Cooper to make this false equivalency between Bondi’s personal (and political) stance on traditional marriage and the killing spree against gay people carried out by an ISIS member is appalling. Just appalling. Sooper Mexican at Right Scoop makes this point:

[…]

Anderson Cooper is basically the gay PC police here, reinforcing a left-wing political agenda, and people are shamelessly applauding him for what should be considered a complete lack of journalistic objectivity and integrity.

Bondi, for her part, should have made it clear that there’s a huge difference between defending gays as human beings who should not be targeted for murder, and wanting to give them special civil rights. That’s it. Very simple easy distinction.

Anderson dishonestly tries to equate the murdering of gays, which is a crime, with the political position of defending traditional marriage – which I’m sure he’d like to be a crime as well. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Journalist Cooper most definitely was not in this interview. It is astonishing to me that these journalists, Democrats, and the President himself are so quick to jump on their political opponents while REFUSING to call this attack what it was: RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

They are not serving us by so doing. In fact, they  continue to set us up for further attacks by not doing their jobs, not researching what other outlets are discovering (like the call to make mayhem on the West during Ramadan), and attacking political opponents rather than addressing the real issue at hand.

And they need to stop it already. This is an Open Thread.

Note: Sorry for the delay in getting this post up today. I was having some technical issues, no doubt from having clicked onto a couple of Breitbart articles which ALWAYS screws up my computer, as well as getting a call from my doctor’s office with a pre-surgical survey  I had to complete.

 

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43 Responses to “Just STOP IT With The False Equivalency Already *Open Thread*”

  1. piper Says:

    Amy,
    No need to apologize for the delay.

    An interesting opinion piece on the ‘fox’ and ‘hedgehog’ political actors.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/trump-only-knows-one-big-thing-b99744387z1-382984841.html

    • piper Says:

      “Donald Trump, on the other hand, may be our first hedgehog candidate. He knows one big thing — the campaign is about him and only him. He is the flaming gaseous ball around which all other planets circle. His positions aren’t the story; he is. Details are for sissies.

      This is why, in the hours following the horrific massacre in Orlando early Sunday morning, Trump kept the focus where he believed it belonged — on Donald Trump.”

    • piper Says:

      “nd exactly what did Trump think he deserved congratulations for? Because he predicted there would be another deadly attack on American soil at the hands of someone inspired by ISIS? Did any adult in America think otherwise?

      But perhaps most offensive is Trump’s tone, which seems to suggest that the attack wouldn’t have happened if he was in charge. This is truly the lowest form of political opportunism and a slander against the men and women of law enforcement who work to keep us safe.”

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Great article and quotes, piper. It is always abt Donald, Donald, Donald. And people thought Obama was the biggest Narcissist around. I think Trump has him beat.

        And why would anyone want someone even more egocentric in the WH??

  2. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    As one gay friend on Facebook noted, this attack is bigger than the LGBT community – it is an attack on ALL of us. Good point, I think!

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Breitbart always screws up my computer as does the Daily Caller. I finally just stopped going to either site since it wasn’t worth the effort.

    And YES, even Hell Yes about the damn false equivalency b.s.!

    49 innocent Americans are dead in Orlando and one sick murdering s.o.b. And somehow it’s the fault of the American people?

    I don’t care if those murdered were gay – what the hell does that have to do with anything? A sick, barbaric MUSLIM radical, who called ISIS before he began his rampage and who screamed “Allahu Akbar” as the filthy coward killed innocent people.

    American People. On American soil. And the disgusting POS POTUS give us a lecture about hate?

    I’ve know for a long time that Obama took sides in this war with ISIS. And it wasn’t ours.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yes, both of those mess it up. Different friends had linked to Breitbart and Daily Caller. I hadn’t gone to DC in a while since they became so Trumptastic, but gave it a shot yesterday. I won’t be making THAT mistake again…

      Anyway, you are exactly right, Marge. It doesn’t matter what stripe or ilk the murdered were other than that they were AMERICANS. That’s it. This isn’t abt HOMOPHOBIA, as the rainbow shirts and flags would seem to indicate. No, they were abt a theological component of Islam followed by MILLIONS. THAT is the aspect on which people should be focused.

      But no. And as you so accurately noted, Obama has made clear on which side his bread is buttered…

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Obama lies as usual. He indicates that people think just naming the killers would stop them. Another of his endless line of straw men.

    “That’s the key, they say,” Obama said, eviscerating the GOP. “We can’t defeat them unless we call them radical Islamists. What exactly would using this label accomplish? What exactly would it change?”

    Well if you don’t “identify” the enemy how do you track it down? If you don’t know who and what they are you sure as hell can’t stop them.

    There are a lot of dead Americans on Obama’s watch. And he wants to blame the GOP. They and the media are certainly his co-conspirators.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That cartoon is PERFECT!! And yeah, Obama’s refusal to call it by name and getting angry abt it says it all…

      • mcnorman Says:

        Yes, I got the you can’t go on the plane (I was in pain 3 herniated discs.) while the burka wearer was given carte blanche at the Philly airport last year. I am that grandma that limps when I’m in pain. Zero isn’t fooling anyone. We know what side of the line he stands on.

        I have no problem with the Muslim woman being allowed to board, but I do have a problem with holding a full airplane to take my bag apart and search me. No logic to the TSA profiling. I even showed them my Rx for pain.

  5. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Hells yeah – it is abt time that smug, arrogant, partisan hack Koskinen got some comeuppance: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/283576-house-committee-votes-to-censure-irs-head

  6. piper Says:

    An older article with some very astute observations.

    ‘The truth of it is that Trump hasn’t drug anybody anywhere. And he doesn’t have impressive poll numbers because he’s somehow or another convinced anybody of anything.

    Trump is, as of this moment, the heartbeat of an America with which you and I are not a part of but very much accustomed. His is not a proactive candidacy but a pure, unadulterated, reaction to what a slice of the American public wants. This is a group that lives their lives steeped in unbelievable anger. They are either poor or less rich than they think they should be, they are middle-class or upper middle-class, and they are, almost to a person, white. They are angry and all they want in the fucking world is to blame somebody.

    Trump isn’t the cause, he’s the disease personified.

    He is repeating to this group of people, in a voice they’ve been dying for, the very thing they’ve always known but they’ve wanted to hear. And it doesn’t matter what gets in their way, whether it’s the Constitution they claim to love so much or groups of people they wish to deny basic decency and basic rights.

    He has found the pulse of these ignorant, livid people and is playing it like a virtuoso strumming an instrument.’

    Link: http://atticusreview.org/an-american-nightmare/

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      In spite of all the rhetoric about his having gotten more votes than any other Republican the fact remains that more voted against him than voted for him. I suspect if all the mischief making crossover Dem votes went in the trash where they belonged the numbers would be even worse.

      Dummie Donnie cannot win. His “base” hasn’t increased in months. Those are the die-hard Trumpanzees who are members of the Dummie Donnie cult and nothing will shake them.

      The rest of America, even those that don’t pay much attention to politics will more than likely either stay home, not liking either scumbucket, or vote for Hillary for the “historic” aspect of it.

      I suspect we should begin to get used to hearing “Madam President” if something “historic” doesn’t happen in Cleveland. And I don’t think it will.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        From what I have seen, that claim is misleading since there are more voters now than before.

        And then there are all the crossovers to make sure he was the nominee.

        All that and so much more are the reasons why Marge is so right abt Trump and his chances.

        Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

  7. helenk3 Says:

    I just ordered this book
    the seduction of appeasement by victor davis hanson

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Sounds like a winner Helen. I love the way VDH writes. Give us a critique of it after you read it will you please?

      By the way I bought “Liberty and Tyranny” by Mark Levin and I love it. So much information that I never knew. I would recommend it for anyone that likes to “know” things about how government works, how it is supposed to work and what the rats we elect are doing to us.

  8. mcnorman Says:

    Do we want this? I don’t believe that I am a crazy, but when you keep adding to the long list, the list becomes downright frightening.

    A Month of Islam in Britain: May 2016Child Sex Grooming, Prison Brainwashing and “Allah Knows Best

    • mcnorman Says:

      Our own DHS cannot call the obvious what it is. This should scare everyone along the southern border. it is obvious to me that for 8 long years, the open borders that POTUS has allowed are going to give way to something that we may never recover from.

      http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/06/islamic-refugee-gas-pipeline-plans-arrested-new-mexico-border-county/

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        The DHS, as well as the DOJ, as well as POTUS and most Democrat members of the House and the Senate are on the side of the killers.

        They don’t see it that way but how else can anyone with a brain see it when they are more concerned with “profiling” the people that kill than with keeping Americans safe? PC rules their agenda and the have chosen sides – just not ours.

        And the spineless GOP, the “opposition”does nothing but mouth some drivel meaning nothing.

        Did I say opposition?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I am going to go with, “HELL NO WE DON’T WANT THAT!!!” Ahem. WTH???

      Great comments, y’all!

  9. GinaR Says:

    This is the only response we should be hearing from the Muslim in the White House. Not about gun control, not about Republicans, not that Islam is the religion of peace. This.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Netanyahu is such a tremendous leader. He truly is. Why in the world do we not have someone like this leading the greatest nation in the world?? Why do we have someone who constantly equates members of the opposite party with terrorism while minimizing actual terrorists?? It defies all that is good and holey…

      • GinaR Says:

        The Israelis have lived with terrorism since the moment Israel was declared a state. They wouldn’t put up with a namby pamby coward like the one we’ve got in the White House. They know that the only way to stay alive is to fight terrorism, not cater to it or bow down to it. Our Wimp In Chief wouldn’t last 5 minutes in Israel.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Amen, sister, amen – no way in hell would they put up with someone like Obama. Not even close.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Thank you so much for this Gina! Netanyahu once again shows he is a leader not just a politician. Would that we had someone like him to pull us together instead of trying constantly to tear us apart.

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    The Democratic Republican presumptive nominee for President, Donald Trump, is now siding with Dems on a gun reform issue: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/283696-gun-debate-takes-a-dramatic-turn

    We tried to tell the Trumpsters…

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Very powerful address to Orlando from the Lt. Gov. of Utah (h/t Facebook friend): http://crooksandliars.com/2016/06/utahs-lt-gov-spencer-cox-gives-powerful

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I love Jonah Goldberg: http://therightscoop.com/probably-the-dumbest-in-the-history-of-new-york-times-editorials-jonah-goldberg

    • GinaR Says:

      Maybe whoever wrote that editorial should watch the Bibi Netanyahu video to get a real understanding of what happened in Orlando. I think Goldberg was being generous by calling it the dumbest editorial in the history of the NY Times editorials.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        NO KIDDING, huh?? What idiots there – all feelings, no reason or logic whatsoever…

  13. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Once again, the minority party is able to make hay out of a crisis, and the Reps are rolling over. So glad they have been able to make this most recent terrorist attack abt GUNS and not radical Islamist terrorists (sarc): http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/283674-dems-end-senate-filibuster-after-14-hours

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Branco nails it:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      There are currently 20,000 laws on the books about guns and gun ownership. What more could possibly be needed? All this “gun” frenzy is about the liberals attempt to take guns from law abiding citizens.

      Always remember that the 2nd Amendment isn’t about protecting yourself from attack from you fellow citizens, it’s about protecting yourself from your corrupt government.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        YES, you are so right, Marge. I think we forget that the majority of the time. And yeah, more gun control is not going to address the root cause of this attack: radical Islam.

        Howard Stern had some good comments on all of this, too. You may have seen something abt that at The Federalist. His point was essentially that terrorists will find a way, and citizens deserve the right to protect ourselves.

  14. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Of coruse Trump is “muddying the message on the Constitution.” He is a DEMOCRAT: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/283665-trump-muddies-gop-message-on-protecting-constitution

  15. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Another EXCELLENT column by Mollie Hemingway on Anderson Cooper and the media in general covering this attack: http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/16/anderson-coopers-orlando-ranting-is-bad-for-america

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Just read Mollie’s piece a few minutes ago. She’s dead on as usual.

      Anderson Cooper owes the decent citizens of this country an apology. We are not the enemy and we did nothing wrong. If there’s bigot in the Anderson Cooper clip, it’s him.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        You ain’t only kidding, and that the media is APPLAUDING him for bullying the FL AG and ambushing her says so, so much.

        He should be fired, but he will probably get a promotion…

  16. kenoshamarge Says:

    Petition asks CNN to terminate Sally Kohn for anti-Christian bigotry

    “Sally Kohn has an unhealthy and very inaccurate view of Christians, not just Christianity but Christians themselves,” wrote Ali Akbar, author of the petition, in an email statement to PJ Media.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/06/14/petition-asks-cnn-to-terminate-sally-kohn-for-anti-christian-bigotry-on-orlando-shooting/

    Just my opinion but I think Sally Kohn has a very unhealthy view of a lot of things. And while she accuses others of hate she spews it every time she opens her yap.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      GOOD!! I cannot STAND her. I have zero understanding how that woman ever got to be so prominent and was able to make a living off the crap she spews. Hope they get her off the air. She is a disgrace.

  17. helenk3 Says:

    just because we need a smile

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/06/disney-princesses-show-up-for-5-year-olds-adoption-finalization-hearing/

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