Where Did It All Go So Wrong? *Open Weekend Thread*


As we begin this Independence Day Weekend I can’t help but wonder where it all went so wrong. Look around and you wonder how this country, this great, strong, wonderful country could have gone so horribly wrong.

This country is the one by which all others in the world are measured for liberty. This is the destination most immigrants choose. This is the country that gave us a document that was intended to keep us free for all time. A document like no other. And we have a national political party that is doing it’s best to take those rights, those freedoms away.

We have the other national political party sitting by as those freedoms are endangered and do nothing.

We have a population that not only would trade safety for freedom but would trade freedom for stuff. Freedom for the right to sit on their ass while someone else supports them. And then protest because they aren’t given enough.


At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Benjamin Franklin was asked:   

“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

  “A Republic, if you can keep it.”


I read those words and then I watch in disgust as someone with a microphone asks college students why we celebrate Independence Day.  Any 6 year old should be able to answer it. Certainly any newly minted citizen can. A college student that can’t is a disgrace to the education system, to the country and to the parents that raised such a fool.

I won’t go into my usual full diatribe on the liberal education that our children receive. That is worthy of a post all on its own. Liberals have controlled education and their stooges, the Teacher’s Unions have been complicit, even co-conspirators in the lack of what passes as a decent education.

Once teachers got a union the amount of money they could milk from the system was all that mattered. Children not getting a good education? Send more money. Money that is in turn sent back to the liberals so that teacher’s unions get more money. Nice corrupt system they’ve got there isn’t it? School boards and PTAs are all part of the deception. Not much you can say about people that steal from children’s future so that they can steal some money is there?

If our education system is shameful what do you say about a country that sends it’s men and women off to war and then doesn’t care for them when they are injured and maimed? What do you say about Administration after Administration that points the finger of blame as the Veterans Administration fails the vets year after year after year? What do you say about a Veterans Administration that catches it’s managers doing wrong and not only doesn’t fire them – it tries to hide their crimes?  Vets wait for treatment that should be immediate and mandated by decency if not by law.

I thought perhaps this weekend I should reread the Declaration of Independence again to remind myself what a glorious beginning we had. How can we know where we are going if we don’t know where we’ve been? Here is the Declaration of Independence in it’s entirety:


The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

 The Signers:

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

Had you known there were 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence? Did you ever wonder what happened to them? I never really gave it much thought. Fortunately radio personality Steve Deace informed me what happened to them on his program on Thursday. I don’t think I ever knew the price they paid for what they did. Here’s what happened to the 56 signers of the Declaration Of Independence.  The Signers and their fate.

I hope you enjoy your Independence Day. And I hope you enjoy the freedom you have left. Because we are losing them at a staggering pace.

I fear that soon, all too soon, Independence Day will just be another holiday with flags and fireworks and barbeques. Signifying nothing.




44 Responses to “Where Did It All Go So Wrong? *Open Weekend Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    TSA Leaves Disabled Woman Bloodied and Bruised, Now her Family is Fighting Back

    For 17-years, 19-year old Hannah Cohen has traveled to St. Jude’s Hospital in Memphis from her home in Chattanooga for treatment for a brain tumor. This time, Hannah’s journey ended in a nightmare after she was roughed up by Transportation Security Agency (TSA) and left bloodied and bruised.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, this makes me so mad…Heaven forfend we call terrorists terrorists, but rough up disabled people trying to fly? Hell yeah!

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

  4. helenk3 Says:

    I was born and raised in Philadelphia where it all began. The Liberty Bell, the Declaration of Independence and the congressional congress were just a part of our heritage. I took my kids to all the historic places and they do know and have a little understanding of the sacrifices and just what great things were accomplished there.
    Valley Forge, Gettysburg all parts of our history were close enough to visit and learn about.
    You would think with the internet, that more kids from all over the country would learn these things. I do not know why they haven’t.
    Thank God I and my kids and grandkids and great grandkids have this wonderful opportunity.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      How wonderful to actually “see” the Declaration! And how wonderful that you passed on the wonders of our beginnings to your kids and them to theirs.

      We have more access to information than ever before and yet so many are so ignorant. It’s mind boggling.

  5. helenk3 Says:

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  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Marge, thank you for another brilliant post!

    I wanted to let y’all know that I am now home. They sprung me yesterday afternoon. I’m not going to lie, it was sheer hell driving home. Wow, are there a lot of bumps and stupid drivers between here and there!

    In any event, I had a very good stay at the hospital, meaning the staff – all of them – were just fantastic. My doctor was, too, even dealing well with the projectile vomit I had (thankfully, I was able to grab the basin before it went all over the place – including him). He was calm, grabbed the basin, measured the contents, told the nurse, and even rinsed it out himself. Very nice man.

    Anyway, I am now home, able to see the critters (DJ is all freaked out by the walker), and the outside critters. We were able to get our new power reclining sofas delivered just in time, and what a blessing they have already proven to be. I get my staples removed on Friday, and then no more travel for at least 6 weeks, and only then for PT.

    Thank you all again for the support, the love, the prayers, and keeping the home fires burning here!

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      So wonderful to “see” you! And although I know you are glad not to have spewed all over your doctor I would think your own body sort of wanted to comment on what he had done to it.

      I know in spite of a rough ride it must be great to be home. Where the heart is. And to see with your own eyes that all the much loved critters are still there and doing well.

      I’m trying my best but I’m not the beloved Amy and all will be so glad when you come “home” here as well as home there.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Thanks, Marge! LOL abt the commentary with my doctor. He really is very nice. Turns out he grew up close to where we were on vacation in Louisiana, a fact that came out AFTER I almost threw up on him. Ahahaha.

        I have to say that Dr. Aymond was right – this surgery is nooooo joke. Every thing hurts my back, and I do mean everything. Every little bump, misstep, slight lean, animals, etc., etc., all of it combines for a pretty painful time of it. (A few friends have commented on how well I am doing judging by comments I have written at Facebook. Well, they don’t see how many times I stop in the midst of writing, or how many typos I make, before I am ready to post something.:-) )

        It is definitely better to be at home. From my new cushy recliner, I can look outside, see the creek, the critters, and the marsh, all of which make me very happy indeed.

        You are too kind, Marge, though you know – I hope – you are well loved! It really does mean a lot to have you here. Thank you! And you know the love is mutual!

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          Did they tell you how long the extreme pain will last? I’m sure they gave you something for when it gets too bad. I used to be so afraid of getting addicted to pain meds that I wouldn’t take them even when I needed them. This last time I was careful but took them when needed. Funny thing is, 1 1/2 years after the surgery I still have 2 pain pills left in the bottle. So I guess I didn’t get addicted. Only you can judge when you “need” them and when you can muddle through without. Don’t be a Spartan about it though – hear?

          Take all the time you want or need to comment – we’re just glad to have you back! Don’t worry, I’m long winded enough for both of us! 😉

          Oh-oh, there I go mothering again. Can’t help myself.

    • amarissa Says:

      Welcome back! So happy to know you are at home and well!

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Just an example of our dismal government at work.

    The Lord’s Prayer has 66 words

    The Gettysburg Address has 286 words

    There are 1,322 words in the Declaration of Independence

    But the government regulations on the sale of cabbage total 26,911 words

  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    Another way it all went wrong – when a man was elected FOR the color of his skin.

  10. kenoshamarge Says:

    Think Gun Control Works? What about Firework Control?

    This Independence Day, many people will celebrate the usual way with parades, cookouts and, of course, with fireworks. Fireworks are a traditional, time honored way to celebrate the birth of our great nation. Some people will attend municipal fireworks shows but others will be setting them off on their own in their backyards and neighborhoods. In some states, they will have gone to a local store to buy them. In other states where fireworks are illegal, people may cross state lines to purchase them. Or they may get them from what can only be called a black market of sorts.


    Some fireworks are illegal here in Wisconsin. Sparklers, Smoke and Punk, Fountains and Crackle and Strobe, whatever that is are allowed. Yet every night for the past week the noise of firecrackers, bottle rockets and whatever else they have is shattering the quiet of the night. It is so every year beginning days before and lasting days after Independence Day.

    I don’t like the noise but I don’t complain. If a few people want to exhibit one small bit of Independence from a nanny government I’m all for that. Even if I hate the noise.

  11. helenk3 Says:


    very inspiring article

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      A wonderful article Helen – thanks for sharing it with us. The whole thing was good and as you said, inspiring. But the part that will stay with me was the last paragraph:

      This July 4th, many of us will have the sad shadow of this election hanging over it – where the leading candidates are so far removed from our founding ideals that both agree on government control of healthcare. If our damn politicians cannot restore our republic – then we should give the Article 5 convention of states strong consideration. If our former rivals – now dear friends – in England can have a democratic uprising to bypass their political elites and restore their rights, then so can we.

      I begin to think that the only hope for this country is an Article 5 Convention of States. And even as I think that I doubt the national will to do it.

  12. helenk3 Says:


    the leave campaign of 1776

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I wrote in my anger and outrage about how things all seem to be going wrong. Then someone like Jacoby writes as he did and I have hope again.

      I liked how he connected our Revolution and Brexit. A lot of Conservatives are doing that. The lefties hate that. I especially loved this paragraph:

      The unanimous vote in the Second Continental Congress, which affirmed that “these united colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states . . . absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown,” was the most far-reaching political event of the 18th century. John Adams, writing from Philadelphia to his wife Abigail, called the vote not just “the greatest decision . . . which ever was debated in America,” but possibly the greatest that ever “was or will be decided among men.”

  13. helenk3 Says:


    say it loud and proud

  14. helenk3 Says:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Thanks so much Helen. I had heard about this – even saw a picture but they didn’t do justice to the flagpole as this video did. And I didn’t know about the bricks with the names. It’s wonderful!

      I thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to see something so great right here in my own backyard.

      My mother’s older sister, my Aunt Doris lived in Sheboygan until her death a couple of years ago. She had a kennel and I spent many a summer there.

      Mom’s other sister lived there for about 10 years when my Uncle Harry was a fireman in the city of Sheboygan. I also spent time with them – my aunt’s name was Marge and I was named after her. She and my Uncle Harry were both in the Navy during WW2. This has revived a lot of memories.

  15. helenk3 Says:


    a great idea

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      When I was in school we were required to memorize the preamble to the Declaration. Now it’s a big deal just to read it.

      Even when I was quite young, perhaps in the 3rd grade of thereabouts we were expected to know the first paragraph of the preamble. I can still recite most of it today. Funny thing memory – half the time I can’t remember where I put my glasses down but I remember something I memorized 60 years ago.

      I also remember the books of the bible as my Dad taught them to me as he was taught by his grandmother.

      And I still don’t know where the heck my glasses are.

      Lou is always losing his phone. That’s not a problem – I call him and he follows the ring to the phone. My damn glasses just sit there silently and let me run around like an idiot. I think they’re laughing at me.

      • helenk3 Says:

        I have the same problem with glasses. I drive my daughter crazy because I take them off to read. She works in the optical field. When my kids were growing up I had one pair of glasses until I could not see out of them. She went into that field and now they are a “fashion statement”.

  16. helenk3 Says:

    this never gets old

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      That is/was great. A great man and a very funny man. And not a four letter word in sight.

  17. helenk3 Says:

    Nature’s fireworks

  18. helenk3 Says:

    one way to teach the kids

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Learning doesn’t have to be boring. Look at all the nonsense kids “learn”. Make learning history entertaining and they’ll learn and remember.

  19. helenk3 Says:


    good old george got it right

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      George got a lot of things right. He could have been king. He could have served another term as president. Instead he just went home to Mt. Vernon and his wife. When FDR was given the same option, he took the 3rd term knowing he would likely not live to finish it. George was a far better man as well as a better president IMO.

  20. helenk3 Says:


    i really hope this is not true

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Why is this woman not in jail? Better yet why is this traitor not in front of a firing squad?

  21. helenk3 Says:


    one reason the revolution started was taxes

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I wish I believed this would go somewhere. Does anyone believe McConnell would push it through the Senate? Does anyone believe Obama would sign it if he did?

      Still it would be nice to see them at least fight for something.

  22. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    A very, very Happy Fourth of July to you all! Long may our flag wave!


    • kenoshamarge Says:

      And the same to you Rev! I can understand why those adorable miniature horses are used for therapy – just the picture of them made me smile and feel good.

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