“The Single Best Reason?” Not By A Long Shot *Open Thread*


Recently, a friend had a blog post up entitled, “The Single Best ‘Why You Need To Vote Trump’ Post I’ve Seen.” The author is referencing a Townhall post from a Christian, Wayne Grudem, who attempts to justify how Christians really can, in good conscience, vote for Trump.

I trust you can already see where I have problems with this rationale. But just to be clear, here are some of the claims made by Gruden:


I did not support Trump in the primary season. I even spoke against him at a pastors’ conference in February. But now I plan to vote for him. I do not think it is right to call him an “evil candidate.” I think rather he is a good candidate with flaws.

He is egotistical, bombastic, and brash. He often lacks nuance in his statements. Sometimes he blurts out mistaken ideas (such as bombing the families of terrorists) that he later must abandon. He insults people. He can be vindictive when people attack him. He has been slow to disown and rebuke the wrongful words and actions of some angry fringe supporters. He has been married three times and claims to have been unfaithful in his marriages. These are certainly flaws, but I don’t think they are disqualifying flaws in this election.

 On the other hand, I think some of the accusations hurled against him are unjustified. His many years of business conduct show that he is not racist or anti-(legal) immigrant or anti-Semitic or misogynistic – I think these are unjust magnifications by a hostile press exaggerating some careless statements he has made. I think he is deeply patriotic and sincerely wants the best for the country. He has been an unusually successful problem solver in business. He has raised remarkable children. Many who have known him personally speak highly of his kindness, thoughtfulness, and generosity. But the main reason I call him “a good candidate with flaws” is that I think most of the policies he supports are those that will do the most good for the nation.
That is why this election is not just about Hillary Clinton. It is about defeating the far left liberal agenda that any Democratic nominee would champion. Liberal Democrats are now within one Supreme Court justice of their highest goal: gaining permanent control of the nation with a five vote majority on the Supreme Court, and then relentlessly imposing every liberal policy on the nation not through winning elections but through a relentless parade of one Supreme Court decision after another. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Begin rant:

The author hasn’t given me any reason to vote for Trump. I disagree with the majority of what he said. I don’t believe Trump is a “good candidate with flaws.” I believe he is a deeply disturbed person who is wholly unsuited, on every level, to be the leader of the free world.

He has been an unusually successful problem solver in business.” Seriously? In what way? What problems in business has he solved that didn’t involve multiple bankruptcies, multiple failed businesses, scams and frauds, refusing to pay workers what he owed them, hiring illegals, taking his businesses out of the country, and hundreds of lawsuits?

He has raised remarkable children.” Well, first of all, have you heard some of the crap his children have come out with? And second, he has said on numerous occasions that his ex-wives raised his children, he didn’t have much to do with it. And third, what’s so remarkable about his children? What’s the criteria for being considered “remarkable?”

This is a man who admires and praises authoritarian dictators; has ties to the mob and displays that thug mentality regularly; attempts to shut down dissent; has the temperament of a 5-year-old; suffers from narcissistic personality disorder; changes his mind minute to minute, based on the response he gets from other people or something he sees on tv or who the hell knows why; is grossly ignorant of the way our republic works; is grossly ignorant of what’s going on in the world around him; is a pathological liar; surrounds himself with ignorant spokespeople (like Scottie Nell Hughes) and thug advisors (like Paul Manafort); and is mentally and emotionally unstable.

For decades the Democrats held Roe v Wade over my head. Now, the Republicans want to buy my vote by holding the Supreme Court over my head. Not going to work this time. Let’s not forget that it’s the Senate who must ultimately confirm the nominee so if you want to ensure that the Supreme Court doesn’t become filled with liberal activist judges, vote for true conservatives for Senate, because the so-called Republicans in there now have betrayed us all. And maybe it’s time for an amendment to remove the “lifetime” provision for the Supremes; maybe We The People need to focus on THAT, hmmm?

Neither of the two nominees will get my vote. It is so far beyond “hold my nose” this year. I find both nominees to be equally despicable and dangerous to the future of this country. If I have to choose who I think would, in the big picture, be worse, I’d have to say Trump for so many reasons, just a few of which I’ve mentioned above. And, if he becomes president, we will have told the establishment elitist GOP power mongers that we approve of, and condone, their betrayal of this country and all we stand for, and they have free rein to continue to screw us. I have to draw the line somewhere. I have to make a stand, I have to stand for something, unlike Trump, who will negotiate anything with anyone at any time. A man who will negotiate everything stands for nothing, and such a man is a danger to all, especially when that man is downright crazy.

Rant over.

Go about your day. This is an Open Thread.


32 Responses to ““The Single Best Reason?” Not By A Long Shot *Open Thread*”

  1. piper Says:

    Well written thread on why Trump is a dangerous person. First time in 40 years that I refuse to cast a vote for either presidential candidate. I still can’t figure out why the republicans are going along with this horrendous sham of a candidate – did they think he would bring his fame, name recognition or money to the party – instead he has brought ridicule and an empty purse which will lead to probably a democrat party take-over.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Great rant Gina and right on target. To offset the post telling you why you should vote for Trump because of the Supreme Court here’s something written by Daniel Horowitz, whom I respect greatly, about why it’s way too late to worry about who any POTUS appoints.

    12 reasons why Federal Judiciary is irremediably broken

    The truth that nobody in the conservative movement will tell you is that at some point between the ‘60s and today — through one or several of those many elections in which we were supposed to lose the courts forever — the courts were indeed lost forever. One could debate exactly when we officially crossed that Rubicon, and as I write in Stolen Sovereignty, Robert Bork believed that time was in the ‘90s.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Fascinating, Marge! Tragic, of course, but fascinating. And yes, I am so with Puma abt how this has become the new stick the same way the Dems use Roe v. Wade. Considering the people in there already, and how the Reps rolled over for them, it is hard to not see how we have already lost…

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, my – that is just perfect!

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Do you think maybe Pence is wondering if he didn’t make a big mistake?

        • piper Says:

          Due to Pence’s low polling number and the real possibility of losing the governor’s race, he hitched his wagon to a loud mouth with no filter or real understanding of how to govern. And now he’s stuck whether he likes it or not, watching his career go down the tubes.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    As a Christian who has on more occasions that I can remember or count, asked forgiveness for my sins I cannot in all conscience begin to see any redeeming qualities in a man who doesn’t seek that forgiveness, not from me, but from God. Without that, he isn’t a Christian in my eyes.

    His sins are many and public. That’s more that a few flaws. Seems to me a whole lot of Pastors need to examine their own souls and their own belief system.

    Luke 17:3

    “Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.

    I don’t see much repentance in Don the Con.

  5. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Abt those “extraordinary” (cough, cough) children, Eric Trump stepped in it BIG time trying to explain abt how women invite sexual harassment (h/t Facebook friend): http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/eric-trump-suggests-women-invite-sexual-harassment-and-women-invite-him-to-go-fck-himself/

    Gretchen Carlson and Megyn Kelly had something to say abt his assholic comments, but seems to me the apple didn’t fall far from the tree…

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Oh, Pumaforever is traveling and without her computer until tomorrow night, so she will not be able to comment. She IS reading your comments, though!

  7. piper Says:

    Why is Don the Con screeching louder and louder about rigged elections and upcoming debates because as much as I dislike writing this, Hillary will flatten him in the debates. He only knows twitter and sound bites but can’t rationally or intelligently explain any position/policy which will expose him as the con he really is – a big downer for someone who suffers from low esteem varnished with bombastic rhetoric and thinly applied lacquer.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      A lot of people seem to think he’s looking for an excuse to drop out. Especially if it looks like he’d lose. His ego wouldn’t like that so better to drop out than be a “loser”.

      What kind of havoc would it cause if he dropped out? I can’t even imagine the repercussions. Has that ever happened before?

      What an absolute mess! I hope the Trumpanzees are satisfied.

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    The best cartoon I’ve seen on his stupid “sacrifice” comment.

  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Suzy shared the following with me on Facebook. It is a wonderful respite from the angst of what is happening in our country. The Piano Guys, Pipes and Drums, and in Scotland – hard to beat:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Love it! And aren’t those drums great? Of course the piano and Cello are fantastic but I just fell in love with the cadence of the drums.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Love, love, love the drums and pipes!

        The Piano Guys are an AMAZING group. Their music is just off the charts incredible with the talent they have. Just incredible. Here is their webpage: http://thepianoguys.com

    • piper Says:

      Absolutely awesome performance. Need to bookmark this group!

  10. helenk3 Says:


    OHOH another death tied to the clintons

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I don’t usually, in fact hardly ever, subscribe to conspiracy theories. But there sure have been an awful lot of convenient and coincidental deaths around the Clintons.

      Funny that I found this cartoon this morning. Coincidence?

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    Benghazi Father Shuts Down CNN Host Over Trump Khan Apology: ‘Hillary Never Apologized for My Son’s Death’


    If Trump was smart, which he isn’t, he would say that he apologizes to the Khan Family. He should then say that Hillary should also apologize – to the Benghazi Families. And an extra apology to Pat Smith for calling her a liar.

    I think Trump is a scumbag and owes the Khan family an apology. But the media scum like hack Carol Costello need to be put on notice that their bias is noted and unacceptable.

  12. kenoshamarge Says:

    I bought Lou a surprise for the back yard since the wind blew down one of his hanging bird feeders and broke it. (It was only about 15 years old so Lou, cheap Scot that he is thought it had lots of years left in it.) Lou’s favorite color is red and he loves Cardinals. It was just delivered – what do ya think?

    • piper Says:

      Perfect – luv the color and design. Should keep the squirrels out for a while.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That’s fantastic! My mom had one that was similar, and it worked very well indeed.

      We are constantly having to replace our birdfeeders, not because of the squirrels, but because of the RACCOONS. They are tricky little things, and with those thumbs, they can wreak all kinds of havoc on the birdfeeders and do.

      We are fortunate to have lots of cardinals here (they are the state bird of NC). I never, never tire of seeing them, though. Just beautiful birds.

      I trust Lou will be DELIGHTED with your thoughtful, generous, perfect gift!!

  13. piper Says:

    Today, I decided to try another bike trail this one in Waukesha County – nice scenery including lakes, adult deer and fawns who ran into the woods before I could snap a pic. Overall I liked the ride but a bit hilly for me.


  14. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Since we were discussing previously Trump not endorsing Ryan (and McCain), I have to share this article a Facebook friend had with the Ryan Campaign’s response. It’s good: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/08/02/im-just-not-quite-there-yet-trump-refuses-to-support-paul-ryan-john-mccain-in-their-primaries/

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Once again Trump shows how stupid and pig ignorant he is. A Republican candidate talking about NOT supporting the very people he will need, and that includes the Speak of the House.

      Not to mention that while a lot of more conservative voters don’t like Ryan he is extremely popular in his district and throughout most of WI.

      Ryan could perhaps help Trump win in Wisconsin. Don the Con is determined to have things his own way which means he will lose. Bigly.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I just loved that the Ryan Campaign said they didn’t ASK for Trump’s endorsement. AHAHAHAHA. The article highlighted how popular Ryan is there, and your point is SPOT ON. Trump could have gotten help from Ryan had he not acted like such a spoiled little kid. Again.

        Just incredible, isn’t it?

  15. kenoshamarge Says:

  16. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    For a TOTAL reprieve, I have the following. If you click on the link, there is a video that is just incredible. The dance the older couple is doing, the Shag, is the State dance of SC. it s a beach music kind of dance and has been around for a while. Anyway, if you like dancing, check this out: http://www.metaspoon.com/dancing-elderly-couple-surprise?cat=thearts

  17. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    A friend had this piece by Eric Erickson up at Facebook. It is a righteous rant abt Trump’s recent statements on NATO. Powerful: http://theresurgent.com/donald-trump-can-go-to-hell-and-if-you-defend-this-so-can-you

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