Can The Lost Be Found? * Open Thread *

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Looking around me at what has become of this country I wonder if we can ever find what we’ve lost. Are we still “one nation under God”, or has that been lost for all time? It sometimes looks to me that we are many nations trying to live under one flag.  It isn’t working very well.

Have we lost all sense of decency? I’m not talking about the kind of decency that thinks nothing of thong wearing women with their near naked butts shining in the sun.

No, I’m talking about the kind of decency that knows that some things are just wrong. Not because of who does it but because it’s wrong.

Once you start allowing yourself different standards for different people then you are only kidding yourself if you pretend you have any standards at all.

Thus the line I often use: “we’re it not for double standards they would have no standards at all“. A catchy line with the benefit of being true.

Some things that are lost can be found. With other things it is much  harder. There have been times in our past when it seemed we had lost all decency. The so-called “Roaring Twenties” comes to mind.

In the 30s as Americans struggled with epic unemployment people tended to make heroes of criminals like Bonnie and Clyde and Pretty Boy Floyd. Someone was “taking” something back from a country that didn’t seem to care. A nation where so many people had so little and others had so much. Did some politician blather on about income inequality back then? Probably not those words but probably the same idea to get themselves elected. Then they did nothing or did something that made things worse.

Individuals can, and do, disappoint us. FDR is a hero for bringing us out of the Great Depression when he did no such thing. His tinkering and progressive dabbling most likely made things worse. That’s not to even mention that he tried to pack the Supreme Court to get his own way. Hardly the actions of a hero.

If the cartoon on the left reminds you of some current cartoons of Obama that’s because both of these men tried to circumvent the Constitution they swore to uphold.  Politicians hold up their hand and swear on a bible and it means nothing to them.

My dad told me when I was very young that if someone’s word was no good then neither were they. If you can’t trust them to mean what they say, even after swearing on the bible why on earth would you want them to hold public office? There’s those old “lost” standards again.

History is laden with great civilizations that rose and fell. The Glory that once was Rome is now little more than a tourist attraction. The might of Rome fell as the politicians of the day bribed the population with “bread and circuses”. Simplistic but still true.

Roman philosopher Seneca said:  “A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands”

Think about it,  back in the 1st century someone was blaming the weapon and not the one who held it. Makes you think that the saying: “The more things change the more they stay the same” may have some validity.

We are warned in the bible,

Matthew 12:25 “Every Kingdom Divided Against Itself Is Brought to Desolation; And every city or House Divided Against itself Shall Not Stand.”

We are divided. We’ve lost cohesion. Even when we agree about the problem we cannot  agree about the solution. We are angry with anyone that doesn’t see things from our perspective.

We are angry. Anger seldom thinks – anger just feels. Feelings are important but ultimately solve nothing. Solutions need an actual plan.

The political parties seek, and usually succeed in dividing us further for their own gain when they claim to “feel our pain”. Hogwash! They feel our anger and seek to use it.

There is an epidemic of finger pointing and few, if any real, substantive plans for curing our ills.  Talking points do nothing but fill air space.

We have lost so much. We’ve lost that old American “get up and go” spirit. We’ve lost the idea that there is nothing we can’t do if we all pull together. Instead we pull apart.

We were/are a great nation. We have done great things. We have done bad things and wrong things because we are a country run by and lived in by human beings. We are not and will never be perfect. But we are best when we try to pull together and do the best that we can.

I’ve always been an optimist. I’ve always believed that some how, some way, things will get better. And usually I was right. Sometimes I was wrong. Am I wrong now when I believe that our best days may well be behind us? My optimism is on life support.

An ignorant mob mentality seems to be running rampant. Good things cannot come from that. We will not find that which we lost if a mob mentality, a corrupt media, an ignorant population, and most of all an unprincipled, unscrupulous, and dishonest government continues. We lose when we point the finger at each other and not at them.

America is fine – the people within are not. And we need to find a way to change that. Do we still have the guts and the will? Can those thing which seem lost be found?

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16 Responses to “Can The Lost Be Found? * Open Thread *”

  1. helenk3 Says:

    http://moneymorning.com/2016/03/02/this-little-known-trump-soros-connection-will-surprise-you/

    trump -soros connection

  2. piper Says:

    Important Question – where’s all the money that Don the Con collected in July. 80 millions spent on what????? Did he really forgive the 50 million loan he made to himself or another lie to cover up a theft.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-spent-63-million-in-july.-where-did-all-that-money-go/article/2003833

  3. helenk3 Says:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/politics/donald-trump-roger-ailes.html?_r=0

    roger ailes now a trump advisor

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      He always was. Now he just doesn’t need to deny it. And leave it to Trump to add a dirty old man to his campaign. kind of negates any bashing of Bill Clinton doesn’t it?

  4. helenk3 Says:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/291591-libertarian-ticket-raises-almost-3-million-in-two-weeks

    this is amazing and shows the anger towards both major parties

  5. helenk3 Says:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/fundraising/291503-trump-campaign-apparently-soliciting-foreign-cash-despite-warnings

    does not listen very well does he?

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      His money and rich friends/associates/paid-off politicians have protected Donald Trump from the consequences of his actions all his life. He believes that he can continue to do as he damn well pleases just as he always has.

  6. helenk3 Says:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/rev-jesse-lee-peterson/scapegoating-police-battle-between-good-and-evil

    JUST WOW

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      How strange that both Glen Beck and Steve Deace have been warning about this very thing. The progressive agenda proceeds and the Republicans do nothing.

  7. helenk3 Says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/08/15/former-brigadier-general-presidents-briefer-told-centcom-official-to-skew-intel-on-isis/?singlepage=true

    even our military is compromised by the backtrack bunch.
    if the president does not want to know the truth, how are decisions made that can cost lives?

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      When politics comes in – integrity and honesty go out. Sadly politics is played at the highest level of the military by far too many. Protest and your career is done.

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