Back To School * Open Thread *



It’s that time of the year. In some areas school has started all ready. Here in Kenosha it starts today. Mothers all over town are heaving a sigh of relief.

I wonder as I watch the kids walking past my house all bright and shiny in their brand new clothes with their brand new back packs just what they will learn this year.

Things were different back in our day. No, we didn’t walk through 3 foot deep snow drifts 5 miles to get to school going up hill both ways. One of those big colorful yellow buses picked us up just like they still do. And yes, they did have the internal combustion engine back in my day.

The thing that was most different is that we got a quality education. American kids were among the best educated in the world. We learned because we had,mostly, quality teachers who made sure we learned. And a letter home to Mom and Dad if we weren’t applying ourselves made sure we applied ourselves diligently.

There wasn’t any “social media” in those days and we certainly didn’t have cell phones. We were, for the most part, on our best behavior because if we weren’t that dreaded letter home would assure us of unwelcome attention when we got off the colorful yellow bus.

Today we have high school “graduates” that haven’t the ability to read their own diploma. They often can’t get a job because they can’t fill out a job application. Imagine an education system that awards to diplomas to people that can’t even read them.

I try to imagine a college student back in my day who couldn’t tell you what the reason was for a celebration on the 4th of July. College? We wouldn’t have gotten out of the 5th grade that ignorant. I’m not claiming we were all geniuses, although in comparison…

The very idea of a book report seems strange in these times. I read then and I read now and every chance I got in between. My love for books had been constant all my life. Most of my teachers encouraged that. As they did my love of the language. I remember when I looked forward to vocabulary class in school. Do they still do that? Because quite honestly I see little sign of a decent vocabulary in the young or in certain presidential candidates.

It is difficult, if not impossible, to teach a complicated lesson when you are trying to impart it to young people who think all messages must have 140 characters or less.

Thomas Jefferson was a great believer in education. As were most of the other founders. Jefferson believed in the “unlimitable freedom of the human mind to explore and to expose every subject susceptible of its contemplation.”

After his presidency, the last years of his life were spent creating the University of Virginia at Charlottesville. This school was to be a visionary new school that was to introduce America’s youth to the new ideas about government and equality.

He realized that different students have different academic needs and allowed for these differences by electives in his curriculum. Jefferson designed every aspect of this University. It was created as a place where both students and faculty would be able to enjoy the freedom and the ability to learn.

He not only had the idea for this university, he surveyed the site, planned the buildings and was a supervisor during the construction process. Thanks to his efforts and determination, the university opened in March of 1825.

How disappointed he would be to see what has happened to the Universities of today. Places of “safe spaces” and “free speech” areas. Places where young people are not taught how to think but what to think. Will there soon be college grads that can’t read their diplomas?

Global grade: How do U.S. students compare?

How do U.S. students compare to students in other countries? It’s not as bad as some say, but there is room for improvement.
Students in the United States performed near the middle of the pack. On average 16 other industrialized countries scored above the United States in science, and 23 scored above us in math. The reading scores for the United States had to be tossed due to a printing error.

Room for improvement?  When the United States performed near the middle of the pack? I’d say there is more than room for improvement – I’d say it’s time for parents to bring out the pitchforks and torches. They must demand that the taxpayer dollars that are being poured into education be used for educating out kids. Money for the kids is fine but not for pouring into the coffers of the teacher’s unions and from there to the Democrat party. That’s not just robbing the taxpayers, that’s robbing kids of a decent future. After all there’s only so many jobs for burger flippers.

Public Education Costs

The United States spent an average of $11,621 per pupil educating its young people in the nation’s elementary-secondary school systems in fiscal 2014. According to the most recent data available by the U.S. Census Bureau, this is the largest increase in per pupil spending since 2008, when the U.S. spent a reported $11,009 per pupil.

My own state of Wisconsin is about average at $11,186, which is a bargain compared to New York which spent  $20,610. I don’t think any of us would complain about the cost if the schools were turning out well educated young people. That isn’t the case.

This morning I watched the kids head down the sidewalk in front of my house to the bus stop on the corner and I was sad. Once this was sign of hope and wonder. Now you wonder how they’ll manage without being able to read or write or do basic math.


23 Responses to “Back To School * Open Thread *”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    This story posted in comments yesterday by Rev Amy is another piece of proof of the failure of our school system.

    Employers Find ‘Soft Skills’ Like Critical Thinking in Short Supply

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks for grabbing that, Marge, and for the EXCELLENT post. You are so right – students are NOT as well educated now, and heaven knows, with the amt of money we pay to educate each student, it sure seems we aren’t getting our money’s worth, does it?

      I mean, really – how is it that colleges have to teach remedial reading and math to SO many students, as this article highlights:

      For that matter, how the HELL did they get into college not being able to read at a college entrance level or do math at a college entrance level?? I simply do not understand it.

      And how did we let Educators stop educating and teaching critical thinking? I really don’t get that…

  2. helenk3 Says:

    we have cheated the younger generation and done them a great disservice. They are not taught to be responsible for their own actions. They are not taught the skills to succeed in life. In today’s schools they are indoctrinated not educated. Parenting has been taken away from parents and given to the government. We all know how “close enough for government work” turns out. This started at least in the 1970s and has continued on until today. During the 60s many went to college and became “teachers” to escape the draft. Much of today is a product of that. When some like bomber billy ayres and bernadette dorn and other domestic terrorists are allowed to “teach” at colleges what should we expect?
    The good teachers that really give a damn about the education of kids have been silenced and drown under bureaucratic bs.
    when schools say you can not fly the American flag at football game there is really something wrong. When the Pledge of Alliegence becomes something to scoff at in schools what do people expect to happen to the loyalty to this country?
    When my oldest daughter was in high school she decided to skip school. the school did not call me a neighbor happened to see her. I took her to school and we were in the guidence counselor’s office. I told her since she wanted to act like a 2 year old I would treat her like a 2 year old and walk her class to class. The counselor told her I could not do that. I almost went over the desk after him.
    Charter schools are becoming more popular and I can understand why, parents have more control on the content of what is being taught.
    I went to 13 different schools in 12 years and only graduated high school but I feel much better educated than many coming out of college today. I was taught the ability to think, to read, to find information and to take responsibility for my actions.

    as hitler said “give me the children and I will have the country”

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I agree with everything you said 100%! And we have “given” our children to the progressives and they are making sure that the coming generations are too ignorant to see the evil that surrounds them.

      Home schooling and Charter Schools will be more and more popular with those that want schools to be more than a baby sitting service.

      For the others they will have children who are as ignorant and incompetent as they are.

    • mcnorman Says:

      Many of my students who became teachers retired early because they were fedup with the nonsense that the districts were forcing upon them. Not only that, but my village had a huge problem…altering grades so that the stats represented good scores on state exams. It was huge. We have a lot of illegal aliens that come here to get an education. They couldn’t pass the tests so the counselors and teachers were forced by the administration to cheat. Several of these cretins are going to jail, but not enough imo.

      NPR made it sound like nothing. Everyone lost. This Dem held village keeps paying the district’s upper administration 1/4 million $$$ salaries to do this kind of stuff. Actually, it is far more insidious. A former state representative has been involved in rigging elections as well as hiring people in the district who still do his bidding from prison. He’s been doing this for decades. How’s that for losing in the education department? IMHO, the kiddies from Mexico need to go to school in their country. That is where it gets sticky…they have dual citizenship. They get benefits here, live comfortably across the river and our kiddiees get dumbed down curriculum so that everyone passes our exams.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Seems like there is a whole lot of that “lowering the bar” crap going on.

        As usual the fools that are doing this don’t see the end result. They will when they have bankrupt the country, the younger generation is ignorant and content to stay that way and there is no one smart enough to fix their car because they all have worthless College education.

        I know what you mean about teachers retiring early. A good friend of mine did just that. She said what she was doing was not teaching. After she retired she “home schooled” her grandkids and they are two of the brightest lights around. They both say that college is boring because it is so far behind what they all ready know.

  3. helenk3 Says:

    backtrack bunch tapdance around, over and under the Constitution again
    bank settlement cash grab in unconstitutional

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Wouldn’t it be wonderful if there was an “opposition” party that would keep this rogue president from doing what he has no right to do?

      You can bet that no party led by Ryan and McConnell will do anything more than squeal and profess their outrage.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Bill Clinton used TAXPAYER MONEY to subsidize Clinton Foundation and PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER!

    Another Clinton scandal. And Politico is reporting it? Wow. Will anyone care?

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

  6. mcnorman Says:

    Our kids have been in school for two weeks now. It’s funny how the craziness slows down to a lull when the kiddos are back in jail. The only drawback are the bizillions of school zones up for the kids. I can live with that. I don’t like paying taxes to subsidize educating Mexican citizens. That I do not like. I wish it would stop.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I guess we have our revenge on illegal immigrants by giving them a substandard education.

      They can learn all about how everyone in the USA is a racist except the liberals.

      After stealing an education from the taxpayers of this country they can learn to play the victim. Such wonderful things you learn in this country these days.

  7. helenk3 Says:
    do you believe this?
    don’t speak to avoid micro aggression

  8. helenk3 Says:

    why isn’t considered fraud to demand money for an education and give nonsense in return

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I think it is fraud. Especially to call it education when it’s nothing but indoctrination.

      Our children are having their futures stolen from them and we sit quietly by and let it happen.

      The Dems do it, the Republicans mouth some small outrage and then we go to the polls and vote for their incompetent butts. If they don’t deliver why do we not only vote for them but re-elect them?

      I voted for Paul Ryan for a long time. I thought he was a fiscal conservative. He’s shown that he isn’t. It was all talk. He’ll never get my vote again. But neither will some asshat just because they are running against Ryan. I’m done with the lesser of two evils.

      I have learned my lesson.

  9. helenk3 Says:

    again backtrack don’t need no stinkin congress

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    DANGIT – I meant to say earlier that Suzy went to UVA – it is an incredible campus, so beautiful,especially the part Jefferson built There is still an area on campus, on the lawn, with rooms on either side of the Lawn that have neither restrooms or heat, but they are a PRIVILEGE in which to live (there is firewood and bathrooms to which one can walk). Why? Only the bet and brightest get to live in those rooms. It is a great honor.

    And the Rotunda that Jefferson built is at the head of the Lawn.

    Check it out:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Lucky Suzy to have been able to be educated at UVA! The feeling of being a part of history must be fantastic.

      Did they have “safe spaces” and ” free speech areas” then? And was there a fear of “microaggressions?” I’m kidding. I sure none of that was happening then. I wonder is it happening at UVA now.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Oh, no – not back then. NOW they probably do. Charlottesville is a bit of a hippy dippy place because of the university, but yes, Suzy had an A-1 Education in the Business School there Great place to go to school, that’s fore sure.

        And they have Professor Larry Sabato from the Center on Politics. I always find his commentary and observations interesting and measured. I

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    A Gem in Chicago

    By Thomas Sowell

    By contrast with many other colleges and universities where speech codes restrict what students can and cannot say, freshmen students entering the University of Chicago have been informed by a letter from the Dean of Students that “freedom of expression” is one of that institution’s “defining characteristics.”

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    This goes along with the Kapernick story, but the Charlotte Panthers’ Quarterack, Cam Newton, whom I generally dislike for being unbelievably cocky and a poor sport taunting his opponents, actually said something really good abt this whole brouhaha. He essentially embodied the vision of MLK, Jr. So naturally, the Left is angry as hell at him:

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