I’ve always heard that the VP candidate was supposed to act as the “attack” dog for the POTUS candidate. That way the POTUS candidate could “act” more presidential. That idea is down the drain along with a lot of other “givens” this year.
Not to mention that any idea of Trump acting presidential for longer than it takes for him to slip his latest leash is laughable. Getting him to act like an adult is hard enough.
The VP candidates may be trying to look and act like attack dogs but they just don’t have it in them. Add to that the fact that a good share of the public doesn’t even know their name and their debate adds up to a snoozer.
Mike Pence seems to have been able to act like a reasonable and informed VP candidate. Were he not the man on the ticket with Trump that might get him some cred with me and others that are either #NeverTrump or haven’t quite decided that they must vote Trump to stop the awfulness that is Hillary.
I suspect a lot of voters would much rather vote for whatshisname or whoever than Trump or Clinton. One women even wrote, on Twitter, that she would vote for whichever candidate she thought would die sooner. There’s an endorsement for ya.
While I don’t have much use or respect for Mike Pence I do think he would be better as POTUS than Trump. But that is a very, very, low bar.
Of course no debate would be complete without a focus group and Frank Luntz. The Group last night said that Pence Overwhelmingly defeated Kaine. I don’t know how much I trust these groups, or what their makeup is or anything else so I never know how much to trust them. I just figure I trust them as much or more than any of the talking heads who are not to be trusted at all.
However zipping around this morning the consensus seems to be that Pence won. Maybe the Donald can get a few tips from him.
Kaine seems to have “interrupted too much and people didn’t like that. Many of them were the same people that thought that Trump interrupting was just dandy. Don’t you just love hypocrisy? Especially when it’s so blatant that you don’t even have to hunt for it?
I don’t trust ANY of the news organizations and that includes CNN but their “flash” poll is supposed to be fairly reliable.
The Daily Wire liveblogged the debate so we wouldn’t have to watch. I thought that very considerate of them. I also trust them more than most so I take what they think more seriously than most of the others. So here’s their take:
Well, it’s over. The debate, not the republic, although you’re mileage may vary… Both candidates were strong. Both candidates focused, for the most part, on policy. It’s actually tragic that this isn’t the shape of the entire campaign. Our nation would be better with more men like these on both sides of the aisle.
Kaine is the kind of man with whom it is a pleasure to disagree; Pence the kind it is a pleasure to agree with. The shame of it all is that they each had to defend the candidates on the top of their respective tickets. Or, more accurately, Kaine had to defend Clinton while Pence had to try to avoid the topic of Trump altogether.
On the whole, Pence wins the night because PENCE IS ACTUALLY A CONSERVATIVE and, therefore can actually articulate conservatism. Kaine articulated leftism as best he could for someone who only half-way believes it. If there was no Donald Trump, Pence would be a walk away winner. Kaine never landed a solid shot on Pence – other than by extension. Trump was his target, and he did land a few blows, though nothing significant. For the most part, his attacks seemed contrived and bullying juxtaposed, as the were, to Pence’s grace and sincerity.
For myself I don’t have nearly as high an opinion of either Pence or Kaine as they do. I think Pence has shown himself to be perfectly willing to drop his Conservative principles. Which is how most so-called Conservatives operate. Even the best of them. I’m talking of course about Ted Cruz who “encouraged” voters to vote for Trump which IMO is a betrayal of all he says he believes. I trusted him more than most so that was something I will never forget. I will forevermore trust less.
From the Conservative Review came this from writer Robert Eno: The 4 terrorist attacks VP debate moderator Elaine Quijano conveniently forgot to mention.
If there was one consensus it was that Elaine Quijano was a terrible moderator. Michelle Malkin was profoundly annoyed. Michelle Malkin exposes embarrassing ‘doormat’ moderator Elaine Quijano. Most of the complaints aren’t that she was biased, that’s a given, but that Quijano didn’t even bother to be subtle about it. Nor was she good at it.
Will this VP Debate win help Trump? I really doubt it. Because if my crystal ball is working this morning my guess would be that Trump’s big mouth and bigger ego will find a way to destroy Pence’s win. Just a guess but the Donald never misses a chance to…
There is what I have on the great VP Debate. I doubt it will have much of an impact one way or another.
Next we have another Debate from Trump and Hillary to look forward to on Sunday.
I wish I hadn’t given up drinking.