💰 We The People On The Take 💰 Open Thread



We The People is the way the Declaration of Independence begins. Not we the government. Not we the politicians. Not we the media. We. The. People.

That Declaration was the beginning of our nation and the beginning of a system that gave the power to the people. We are in the process of throwing that power away.

We have been giving that power to the politicians and the media and the giant out of control government. We are losing the power that the founders gave to us. We are throwing that power away so that the government will take care of us.

Why would any people do that? For freebies? For money and goods given by a  government that took the money to provide them from others? What kind of a people would do that?

We were once known as a stand on your own two feet kind of people. We were a can do people. We were fiercely proud of our independence. Where has that spirit gone?



We have allowed people to believe that they have a right to what others have worked for. How did that happen? We used to think of such people as thieves. Many of us still do.

Anyone with any foresight can see that people like these are a parasite that will in time kill the host. They also demean themselves as human beings. Unlike slaves they don’t need to be sold by others, they sell themselves. They sell themselves to a political party.

Many of us used to trust the government to do what was best for us and our country. We were curiously naïve. Now we know, because they have shown us, that they do not have our best interests at heart. It’s all about power.

We once thought the government was in place to protect us from harm. Now the government insists that men be allowed in women’s bathrooms with our little girls. Protect us?

Those who oppose this dependence on handouts are portrayed by the left and the media as unfeeling monsters. How can they not want people to get their freebies? The freeloading people deserve everything they can wheedle out of the government and politicians in exchange for their vote. Once such an exchange was considred shameful. Now it is the status quo.

Welfare statistics represent anyone who receives any of the following government subsidies:
– Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), better known as food stamps
– Housing assistance
– Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
– Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), or cash benefits
– General Assistance
DOES NOT INCLUDE the 70.5 million people enrolled in Medicaid

Total number of Americans receiving welfare government assistance 67,891,000

People that are standing on their own two feet, that take pride in making it on their own are looking around and wondering if they aren’t suckers. No one likes to think they’re being played for suckers. But what are people to think when they work hard, pay their bills and can’t seem to get ahead.

Meanwhile those who aren’t working, who have the government pay their bills, who get handouts from the government that is taking the money from hardworking people are mostly as well off and often better off than the working poor. There goes that feeling of being a sucker again.

The left has been able to exploit the poor for generations. They are the heroes. They are the ones who give to the poor and the Republicans are the evil, greedy people who don’t care about poor people. Makes for a nice heartwarming picture of a party that “cares” about people.

Yet somehow, for all the trillions of dollars spent on helping the poor, their numbers don’t shrink.

Lyndon Baines Johnson, who many had thought was rather conservative, quickly became far more “liberal” when JFK was assassinated and LBJ took the reins. His “Great Society” became a byword for throwing money at the problem of poverty.

As he campaigned in 1964, Johnson declared a “war on poverty.” He challenged Americans to build a “Great Society” that eliminated the troubles of the poor. Johnson won a decisive victory over his archconservative Republican opponent Barry Goldwater of Arizona.

Republicans have cowered in fear ever since. They are still portrayed as racist and greedy and heartless. So they move further to the left each election until now it’s hard to tell a  difference between the parties. Promise anything to get the votes.

 The War on Poverty After 50 Years

In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. In fact, a significant portion of the population is now less capable of self-sufficiency than it was when the War on Poverty began.

No more people decide that a handout is better than a hand-up. Fewer people work to provide the money to give to those that won’t work. The nation is headed on a path that cannot, that will not sustain itself. Some don’t care. Others, given the inferior education provided by the government don’t understand.

A nation with it’s hand out cannot be a “Super” power. You cannot expect understand from an ever growing population that doesn’t know it’s roots, that doesn’t know or understand how government or finance works and that resents the country that gives to them. You can fix ignorant even if you can’t fix stupid but right now I don’t know which is which.



13 Responses to “💰 We The People On The Take 💰 Open Thread”

  1. helenk3 Says:

    I do not mean this as a poor pitiful me thing.
    I remember as a foster kid, being thought of as less than. It is a rotten feeling and I swore it would never happen to me again. I have worked and earned the right to be more than less then.
    Many do not seem to be bothered by the thought of less then. I today’s society those who work seem to be the less then and just there to pay someone else’s way. I do not think that many working people adopted those who refuse to work, why should they support them? Welfare was created to be a short term help for those who really needed a helping hand, not as a way of life.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I understand completely Helen and don’t think you are playing a victim. You went through hard times and come out stronger. People of character do that.

      Many of us need a hand-up from time to time. There is nothing wrong with that.

      But there is no reason, at least IMO, why healthy people who can work don’t work. If they can’t find a job then there should be “workfare”. You don’t get a penny you don’t earn working in some form or another.

      The parasites and the government has made welfare a way of life. That’s just wrong. Wrong for those that take and those who have the sweat of their brow taken and given to others.

      God helps those that help themselves. Time for these people to do just that.

      • helenk3 Says:

        I just had this thought, if working people adopted welfare people they would get a tax break, we can’t have that

        Thank you for understanding

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I agree wholeheartedly with Marge, Helen – you are definitely not a victim and never sound like one. You are simply recounting your history – that is a big difference.

        I understand that fewer and fewer men are now “choosing” to work. Can you imagine? Healthy men – not disabled men – men who are fully capable of working are choosing NOT to do so. They just don’t wanna,, I reckon.

        I have a hard time even understanding how someone can have that mindset, yet it seems to be more and more prevalent these days.


  2. helenk3 Says:


    this is a pretty interesting article on the differences in this country

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Very interesting. I think it also points out the truth that most of the Trump supporters won’t see or don’t understand, i.e., that manufacturing is never going to be what it once was.

      The Dems and their regulations have chased manufacturing away. The companies that remain must fight those regulations and the attempts by unions to take over their companies every day.

      It’s a new world and new solutions must be found. And the Republican Party that always caves in and never stands and fights is not going to rescue anyone – Especially led by someone that doesn’t know or understand manufacturing jobs. The only jobs Trump has created are service jobs.

      JMO anyway.

  3. helenk3 Says:


    Israel suspends cooperation with unesco

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Israel is wise to have nothing to do with the U N. The U N undermines and maligns Israel every chance they get.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Could not agree more. Stay tuned for a post on this very issue coming up on Monday. Glad Israel is suspending their relations. The UN treats them like CRAP.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, wow – that totally sums it up!

      Marge, this is another outstanding post. You are so right – we have handed over our power to the Gov’t, and how are they handling it? Not too well, IMO!

      Thanks for this excellent post!

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    Shapiro On Kelly File: Trump ‘Continues To Stab Himself In The Chest With His Own Libido’

    I’m more concerned about the fact that Donald Trump is constantly talking in terms of conspiracies that are going to overwhelm the American voter. It actually is a tactic of the left to talk about how the American people are being victimized by some shadowy forces beyond their control, that what you really need to do is just to hand power to a powerful gentleman to fix all of that. That’s what troubles me more.

    As far as the allusion to international bankers, I assume he’s talking about Goldman Sachs; but again, this sort of large conspiracy, these conspiracies writ large, don’t speak well of his campaign and they don’t speak well of the people who are buying into them.


  6. kenoshamarge Says:

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