One Week To Go; “Comey Effect,” And Will Faith Trump Fear? *Open Thread*


The days are ticking down now with just one more week to go until the election between the two worst candidates in the history of the nation, in my opinion. I want it over with because I just cannot take seeing either one of them campaigning any more, the charges flying back and forth against each other by people who are equally corrupt. Our nation is going to take a hit no matter who wins, though even with the “October Surprise” of FBI Director Comey opening his mouth, it still looks like it will be Clinton.

And speaking of Comey, Larry Sabato of the Center for Politics at UVA, made some interesting comments in his recent “Crystal Ball” piece:


There are very legitimate questions about whether Director Comey was right or wrong to do what he did. It’s indisputable that Comey broke normal FBI practice in order to comment publicly on an incomplete, ongoing investigation. Moreover, Comey violated longstanding FBI standards that prohibit announcements within 60 days of an election that would influence the public’s choice. Just 11 days before Nov. 8, Comey took an unprecedented step that could affect the outcome of an election for president and Congress. The vagueness and ambiguity of his letter to some senior members of Congress guaranteed a leak to the press within five nanoseconds, and invited the rankest speculation from Clinton’s opponents.

To the extent that Clinton loses ground this week, and falls behind in battleground states where she had been leading, we will call this “the Comey Effect.” Similarly, if Comey’s decision results in Republicans holding onto the Senate and losing fewer House seats because he has invigorated their “checks and balances” argument, we will also attribute this to the Comey Effect.

The all-emails-all-the-time media coverage has already had an impact on the presidential race. Polls were tightening a bit before this, mainly due to some reluctant Republican partisans returning home at the end to their party’s ticket. We also need to remember something that has defined this race: The candidate in the spotlight, except for the convention period, has generally suffered in the polls. After the conclusion of the third debate, the focus seemed to move back to Clinton, as negative headlines about the Affordable Care Act and the daily trickle of sometimes embarrassing emails from WikiLeaks’ John Podesta treasure trove accumulated. This took the focus off of Donald Trump and put it on Clinton — and the Comey Effect has kept the spotlight on her. That the Democrats have struck back so hard against Comey, with some even calling for his resignation, indicates the seriousness with which they are treating this new development in the race.

Republicans will thrill to the Comey Effect. Democrats will heatedly denounce it. Yet it is real and impossible to ignore, and the FBI director’s extremely controversial move must be noted in the Crystal Ball, and maybe even in the history books. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Sabato is of the opinion that Clinton will still win this “Battle Of Deplorables,” but his point about Comey is clear: at the very least, Comey took actions that violated the standards of his own department, and which may very well impact an election.

No one person should have that kind of power over an election. No one, especially someone charged with investigating the behavior of OTHERS that  might have violated standards. There is a reason those standards are in place, to prevent this very kind of thing. It was unethical and wrong. He knew what he was doing, and decided to do it anyway. And now, he has tainted the election, his reputation, and the FBI.

To what end, is the question that is begged to be asked. Republicans are definitely using this “Surprise” to their benefit. Telling, that. I suppose we will know more about how that plays out next week, and as time goes on, but it is clear that Comey’s actions have rocked this election, for worse or worser, if you will. Just when we thought it couldn’t get any worse.

But maybe all is not lost. Recently, I heard the following video on Steve Deace’s podcast:

In essence, the premise put forth by “Faith Trumps Fear” is that one vote one’s conscience, but rather than write in a vote, or not vote at all, that one vote for someone actually on the ballot so that vote is counted, and thus counts toward a statistical impact that makes our voices heard.

Let me say  that I know not everyone is a Christian, but I think the premise presented above still holds regardless of one’s faith conviction, or even none at all. If one considers oneself to be a moral, ethical person who generally supports the Ten Commandments, or at least the Golden Rule, whose conscience precludes them from voting for either of the major party candidates.

I mean, really: one is a sexual predator corrupt as the day is long, whose internet server apparently may have ties to a Russian bank, and whose former campaign manager, Manafort, is now under FBI investigation his own self for – wait for it – ties to Russia, or a politician who seems to have engaged in “pay for play” politics at State, the whole Benghazi fiasco (though Obama as Commander is the one who failed to call in the cavalry), and is as corrupt as the day is long. Holy CRAP.

By choosing to vote FOR someone as opposed to AGAINST someone; by not trying to discern the lesser of two evils when evil is evil and the two major players are both unfit for the office they seek; and being able to look at oneself in the mirror as well as stand before one’s Maker with a clear conscience is no small thing.  It is no small thing at all.

That is the route I am choosing, to vote for someone I know is on the ballot here in SC who by all appearances is a good and decent human being. And that vote will be counted. It will be noted. I may be a voice crying out in the wilderness here in SC, but so be it. I have to live with myself and be true to my conscience.

Finally, I want to note that today is All Saints’ Day. It is the reason Halloween exists. It is a day to remember those whom we have lost, even those we do not know, as well as remembering those saints and martyrs whose lives were lived in service to others and to God.

And in honor of that day, I leave you with this beautiful hymn:

That’s it for me, friends. Feel free to talk about any of the above, Comey, FBI, the two candidates, the “Faith Trumps Fear” video, or whatever else is on your minds today.

This is an Open Thread.


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43 Responses to “One Week To Go; “Comey Effect,” And Will Faith Trump Fear? *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    Great post Rev! This is something that many of us are having a hard time wrapping our minds around.

    The “Comey Effect” is reverberating through the media. The pundidiots, left and right are running their mouths, speaking their talking points and generally making asses of themselves. Nothing unusual there.

    Those of us that are #NeverTrump#NeverHillary don’t have to worry much, other than to wonder what the hell Comey was thinking. I’ll still vote for either Darrel Castle or Evan McMullin as legitimate write-in candidates here in Wisconsin. So this information will not change my vote.

    What it has done is solidify my disdain for James Comey. I don’t think he is trying to do the right thing. I think he’s trying to CYA what he hasn’t done before now that he should have done.

    Both Lynch and Comey should be fired and fired ASAP. Right now it appears that the Obama Administration is backing the Comey/Lynch horse and has tossed Hillary under the bus.

    Get out the popcorn.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks so much, Marge!

      I agree completely abt Comey. I don’t think he was trying to do the right thing at all, but was looking out for #1 – himself. He sent this election into a tailspin without knowing anything, it seems. Considering how much time they had before to look into these emails, along with his failure to have secured all of the devices before, this just does not look good for him OR the FBI. What a piece of work.

      I will never forgive those Reps, including my senator, Lindsey Graham, for voting for Loretta Lynch. She is even worse than Holder, shockingly enough. Ugh. Yep, she and Comey need to go. It says a lot abt this Administration that they would back those two and not Clinton. WOW.

      Yeah, I am definitely voting for Evan McMullin. He seems like a good, stand up man, and someone for whom I can vote without demeaning my conscience. And it will count since he is on the ballot here.

      Strange times in which we live…

  2. helenk3 Says:

    and they do not even have to go through the airport security lines

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      The Clinton’s don’t have to do a lot of things regular Americans have to do. They have been above the law and rules for 30 years.

      Obama did manage to put a crimp in their plans because the 2008 election had “black” trumping “female” and she had to wait.

      What now? Heaven only knows.

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  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    WikiLeaks: Former State Dept. Official Says ‘Every G*d D*mn Cabinet Officer and WH Staff ‘Uses Their Gmail Account’

    A former top State Department official who worked under Hillary Clinton told John Podesta that the use of private email accounts by Obama administration officials is widespread. “Btw you know as well as I every g*d d*mn cabinet officer and WH staff uses [their] gmail account!” Tom Nides, the former deputy secretary of state for management and resources, wrote to Clinton’s campaign chair in a March 2015 email released by WikiLeaks.

    Over the years, many other Obama officials have been caught using personal email accounts to shield public records from scrutiny. Government officials use private email accounts to conceal their shady, possibly illegal government practices from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. Present or future investigations are stymied when government officials hide their work correspondence in a second inbox. The corrupt practice seems to have been encouraged during the Obama years.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      If that is true, then why are they “just focusing on Clinton? If I recall correctly, wasn’t that what started it all, her use of private emails? Or did the server come first? Hang on…

      Yep – it appears to be the emails:

      Given that, why have the other Cabinet level people gotten off scot-free? Why hasn’t Comey gone after THEM?

      And how abt the WH staff?? I am not an apologist for Clinton – not by a long shot – but something is off abt this…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I am not an apologist for Hillary either. I think she’s a crook and if we had an honest FBI and an honest DOJ she wouldn’t have got to the point where it was only 8 days until the election.

        The way Obama is backing Comey makes me wonder if the White House hasn’t made some kind of a deal with the FBI. We know they don’t need to make a deal with Lynch – she’s Obama’s to order and always has been.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Huh – well, at this point, nothing would surprise me, Marge. The level of corruption these days that is accepted is mind-boggling.

  5. helenk3 Says:

    If the NYC PD had not secured weiner’s laptop would any of the latest comey announcements been made?
    The laptop was not in the FBI’s control and the information would have come out but not from the FBI. This would hurt the FBI and the DOJ even more than comey making a last minute public announcement . Just seems like a “Hail Mary” to cya’s

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  7. helenk3 Says:

    Is honest lawyer around?
    this is interesting. just read the law

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I emailed your comment to Cuz’n Cindy. Thanks for the link!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Helen, Honest Lawyer sent this in response to the article, and he said he always enjoys your comments:

      Surprisingly, there are a number of statutes dealing with local and state officials that have the same forfeiture language but typically they are not enforced as they seem to be written. Instead, some governing body must be empaneled, whether a judicial, administrative or municipal body that (1) determines whether there has been a violation of law (whatever the specific provision is that allows for forfeiture), and (2) whether to impose the forfeiture penalty which, in political terms is the death penalty. Since there has been no determination by a governing body that she has violated the particular law in question, there can be no forfeiture, as yet. If she is elected, then this statute will be overridden by the Constitution which provides that the only way to remove a President from office is by impeachment for “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

      There are a host of unresolved issues that surround Clinton. For example, can a President be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors that were committed before the President took office? Second, there are any number of statutes and policies which would preclude Clinton from getting a security clearance and yet today she is given Top Secret briefings on a daily basis. Once she is elected, if she is elected, of course she will have full access to the country’s most closely guarded secrets, notwithstanding other laws to the contrary. The President has plenary (total) control of all matters dealing with national security and that includes the classification of state secrets.

      I would be mildly surprised if Obama decides to pardon Hillary. He must know that a pardon of Hillary will be his legacy, just as Ford’s pardon of Nixon became his legacy. I don’t think Obama would make that kind of sacrifice for the Clintons. But I may be wrong.

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Reckless Baltimore Mayor Who Endangered Her City Slams Comey for ‘Trump-Esque Recklessness’

    On ABC’s This Week Sunday, Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake slammed FBI Director James Comey for reopening the investigation into Hillary Clinton in a move she said was “Trump-esque recklessness.” The comment was particularly ironic given Rawlings-Blake’s single claim to fame/infamy:

    In April 2015, while her city was being torn apart by protests and rioting in response to the accidental death of Freddie Gray, Rawlings-Blake held a press conference to explain how the city was responding. In a quote that stunned the residents of Baltimore, the mayor proudly declared that she had made it very “clear” to police that they were to give “those who wished to destroy space to do that.”

    Rawlings-Blake would do well to keep her ignorant mouth shut and hope people will forget her own “reckless” and foolish behavior. But then she’s a black woman in a predominately black city – never mind – they vote by race not by issues or intellect.

    Black voters are the biggest block of racist voters in the country. IMO

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Are you kidding me with this? Rawlings-Blake really has no room to talk at ALL abt how anyone else acts.

      Sadly, it seems you are right, Marge.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        It is sad isn’t it? They who scream the loudest about whites being prejudiced and voting based on race are the biggest block of voters for any black candidate.

        Name me one race where 90% of white voters voted for a white candidate over a black. I don’t think there is one.

        But there were many areas where blacks voted over 90% for Obama. Think they were all in love with his policies? Think most even knew what his policies were?

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Yes, it is incredibly sad. You look at cities like Baltimore and Detroit, at how horribly things have been mismanaged at the peoples’ expense. A few may speak out abt Obama’s horrible policies and how bad they have been for the Black Community, but still – they vote Dem. It really defies logic and reason.

          And no, I doubt most folks knew what Obama’s policies were. Even with unemployment increasing for the black community under him, they still vote for the D. It makes no sense at all except they have bought into the socialism thing and how the Dem Party is the one that cares abt minorities. Just like we used to think the Dem Party really cared abt women. Nope, just our vote.

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  10. helenk3 Says:

    here is another take on comey’s actions

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      If the following is true:

      Comey cornered Lynch into having to take responsibility for what she wanted done. That shows that Comey is indeed a skilled bureaucratic infighter, and that he is now playing hardball with Lynch, Obama, and Clinton.

      Apparently, the hardball message was already received by the White House. Even before the Reuters report, Josh Earnest told the White House Press Corps that: (via CNN):

      President Barack Obama does not believe FBI Director James Comey is attempting to influence this year’s presidential vote, Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Monday.

      … then Comey is playing hardball with some serious players. Still doesn’t make him a hero. Just makes him someone determined to cover his own butt IMO. I do like that he called Lynch’s bluff.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      That is a very generous interpretation to what Comey did. And the author seems to portray Comey first as someone who is cowed and meekly did what he was told to someone who dug deep and pushed his BOSS into a corner.

      Yeah. Sure. Lynch does not seem like someone who backs down. The Daily Mail had these bullet points to their article (

      Attorney General Loretta Lynch advised Comey against sending a letter to Congress about the FBI’s reopened investigation into Clinton’s emails
      She argued to Comey that he should follow the Justice Department’s practice of not taking actions that could influence the election
      Comey broke away and sent a memo to bureau staffers explaining his decision to notify Congress
      He wrote that the FBI would not ‘ordinarily’ inform Congress about its ongoing investigations
      But said he noted he felt an ‘obligation to’ given that he testified repeatedly in recent months that bureau’s investigation was completed
      On Friday, he sent a letter to eight Republican lawmakers regarding the reopened investigation – rocking Clinton’s campaign

      As I have said since the beginning: he ignored his boss, and violated standing FBI protocol.

      Not for nothing, but the article does highlight the shoddy job the FBI did by not securing all of the devices. That is an inexcusable oversight. Comey has mishandled this from the get-go, and despite the way the WH is giving him cover, he should lose his job. He has damaged his credibility beyond repair, IMO.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        There is no doubt in my mind that he has to go. Whatever his motivations he has bungled this completely. The Director of the FBI should be, and seldom is, above reproach.
        Lynch needs to go too. Her little tete-a-tete with Billy boy on the tarmac has tainted her beyond repair.

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Same can be said for the Trumpanzees.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Exactly. They have picked sides, and now it matters not one whit the depth of depravity or corruption evidenced by Clinton or Trump. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING, will shake them.

  12. helenk3 Says:

    this looks like an interesting book

  13. helenk3 Says:

    OH OH some hard questions for comey

  14. helenk3 Says:

    state dept “just found” 323 hillary e-mails some classified.

    damn they must have fallen behind the boxes in the closet and the cleaning lady just found them

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I’m sure that’s exactly what happened Helen.

      Looks like CYA is the mode in D.C. now. Will the rats desert the sinking ship? They will if they think she will do them too much damage and that Trump will severely damage the GOP.

  15. helenk3 Says:

    since I am electronically challenged and do not fully understand this, is this an OH SHIT, moment for Hillary? Yes, No, or Maybe

  16. helenk3 Says:

    looks like a lot of dems have unfollowed clinton on twitter. backtrack, mooch, warren and others.

    looks like the titanic just hit the iceberg

  17. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    The NY Times has an Editorial abt this whole Comey matter:

    James Comey’s Big Mistake

    Four days after James Comey, the F.B.I. director, sent Congress a brief, inscrutable, election-shaking letter about emails that may or may not be new or relevant to the previously concluded investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, his logic makes even less sense than it did on Friday.

    He said then that he was obligated to update Congress because he had testified in July that the investigation was complete. It now turns out that he knew nothing about the substance of the emails, which were found during a separate investigation of a computer belonging to Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of Huma Abedin, one of Mrs. Clinton’s closest aides. And he clearly failed to consider the impact of the innuendo he unleashed just days before the election, seemingly more concerned with protecting himself from recrimination by critics in Congress and the F.B.I. In fact, the investigators had not even obtained a warrant to examine the emails when he fired off the letter; they got the warrant over the weekend.

    Now, thanks to Mr. Comey’s breathtakingly rash and irresponsible decision, the Justice Department and F.B.I. are scrambling to process hundreds of thousands of emails to determine whether there is anything relevant in them before Nov. 8 — all as the country stands by in suspense. This is not how federal investigations are conducted. In claiming to stand outside politics, Mr. Comey has instead created the hottest political football of the 2016 election.

  18. helenk3 Says:

    a little bit of gossip

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