🏁 Trump Wins 🏁 Open Thread



I am flabbergasted! I am appalled. I am stunned.

It seems that ALL the pundits were wrong. If I didn’t loathe Trump and the Trumpanzees so much that might give me some solace.

To give the devil his due, no matter how much it hurts, and it does, he defeated the horrible hag of Chappaqua AND the liberal media. Obama campaigned for her. FLOTUS campaigned for her. Biden campaigned, half-heartedly, for her. The media never stopped campaigning for her. And still he won.

Do you wonder how all the media that gave him so much free publicity during the primaries feel about that brilliant idea now?


Analysis: Six Thoughts on Donald Trump’s Breathtaking, Surreal Upset Victory – by Guy Benson

Business mogul Donald J. Trump has been elected the 45th President of the United States.  The act of writing that factual sentence represents the surreal culmination of a surreal election cycle, the likes of which the country has never witnessed. A few thoughts:

(1) This was an upset of epic proportions. Needless to say, based on all of the available data — including, reportedly, to the Trump campaign itself — most analysis did not see this coming.  Myself very much included.

Based on polling and electoral models, the GOP nominee looked like he needed to win every state carried by Mitt Romney in 2012, flip Florida, Ohio, and Iowa, then find a way to break through Clinton’s “blue firewall” to cobbled together the remaining electoral tallies. I called this plausible and laid out an accurate road map to how it could happen, but did not believe he would pull it off. Not only did he do so, he burned the so-called firewall to the ground. He won Wisconsin. He won Pennsylvania, he won an electoral vote in Maine.

And as of this writing (5:00 am ET), he may yet win Michigan and/or New Hampshire. These are feats no Republican presidential ticket has accomplished in decades. The state-level polling was wrong. The data was wrong. The models were wrong.  Hidden Trump voters were real.  Rally sizes were indicative of the enthusiasm gap.  An inferior ground game didn’t matter. Getting outspent by a lot didn’t matter (the consecutive low-budget vanquishing of Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton destroyed the Left’s “money runs politics” meme). Having an unfavorable rating of roughly 60 percent, with large majorities rejecting his qualifications and temperament, didn’t matter.  A sizable chunk of those people voted for him anyway.  Much, much more on all of these details to come, but for now, NBC’s Mark Murray summed things up rather well:

Everything I thought I knew about presidential races (’00, ’04, ’08, ’12) turned out to be incorrect. The polls. The parties. Turnout.


The Leftwing Media Is Having a Meltdown Over Trump’s Victory–Here Are Their Headlines to Prove It

Nearly all the pundits and pollsters got this election wrong. A Donald Trump victory was seen as a long shot even reportedly to the Trump campaign itself. But now that President Trump has become a reality, the leftwing media is in full panic mode.

Here’s just a glimpse at what some of the headlines look like today:

The Huffington Post: “Nightmare: President Trump

The New York Daily News shows an image of the White House with this headline: “House of Horrors.”

Daily KOS: ” We lick our wounds, we grieve and then we fucking fight.”

If nothing else it will be amusing to watch all the pundits try to explain how they got things so wrong.

Nate Silver’s reputation has taken a hit from which I doubt that he can recover. He’s just one of many that were wrong. But it’s his business to be right and he was so very, very wrong.


These 23 Celebrities Who Said They’ll Leave The Country If Trump Wins

Jon Stewart and Lena Dunham are just two of the idiots that said that. I wish there was some way to make them keep their word. Deportation for stupidity anyone?Lisa Benson

There will be lots of articles to read today. Lots of analyses by those that got it all wrong excusing why they got it all wrong.

Trump is a bright spot for cartoonists and will provide work for them on a nearly hourly basis or nearly every time he opens his ugly mouth.

Trump won Wisconsin! I find that unbelievable. And so because of that there is one bright spot for me in that Ron Johnson came from behind and beat Russ Feingold. That was a surprise and a good one. Hopefully that will end Feingold for good. But you never can tell with these zombie politicians they seem to have more lives than a cat. And Johnson, unlike Trump or Clinton, did manage to get over 50% of the vote. Ron Johnson – 50.2% vs Feingold @ 46.8.

The Republicans only lost one seat in the Senate so far but Hassan and Ayotte are still neck and neck in New Hampshire. Tammy Duckworth defeated Mark Kirk in Illinois. Rubio won and retread Zombie Evan Bayh lost big in Indiana.

Dems picked up 7 seats in the House of Representatives but the GOP still has a comfortable majority.

Republicans even managed to pick up 3 more state houses. Those 3 are: Missouri, New Hampshire and Vermont.

But for now Trump won – the Clinton’s have finally and hopefully forever had a stake driven through their hearts and after 30 years we will not have to hear much about them.

Final result:

Trump/Pence 47.7% = 279 electoral college votes

Clinton/Kaine 47.4% = 218 electoral college votes

Neither of them could get 50% of the country to vote for them.

I wanted it over and it is. Now I’m just sick. And tired. And sick and tired. How about you?

45 Responses to “🏁 Trump Wins 🏁 Open Thread”

  1. piper Says:

    Happy that Ron Johnson won last night.

    Wonder how long before the media starts reporting the actual news. Not counting on it nor holding my breathe. This is the first election where I felt that both candidates were so horribly evil / corrupt that I did a write-in but I can see after the last 8 years and destructive policies of Obama that anyone who shouted promises about illegal immigration, jobs and wealth could win. Mixed into that bag – police shootings, BLM, bathrooms, obamacare, rising national debt, ISIS and etc., etc., etc.

    Now we’ll see if Don the Con keeps his promises or blames us, the citizens, for his ‘failures’ inability to follow through on campaign issues.

    We were doomed from the moment when we had to choose either Donald or Hillary.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Did you read this morning that Hannity went after Ryan? Doesn’t the dimwit understand that if Ryan hadn’t pumped a million bucks into Wisconsin Trump might not have won? SMH.

      Now we’ll see if Hannity will get his reward. Will he be names as Trump’s White House Press Secretary. Or will he get dumped like Christie did once he was no longer useful?

      Interesting times ahead.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Unfortunately, Don is A-Okay with men in women’s bathrooms, so that won’t change.

        It seems Gary Johnson had a bigger impact on Clinton’s numbers. Just abt every state in which Clinton lost to Trump, the numbers Johnson got would have put her on top. Suzy surmises they were Bernie Sanders voters, and I imagine that is true.

        Excellent post, Marge. I appreciate your ability to handle this today. I had written something last night, but I am not sure it will be suitable for publication. 🙂

        While I did not want Clinton in, it is hard to believe that Americans voted in a game show host as President. A man who has had a number of businesses fail just in the past month. A man who makes sexually loaded comments abt his own daughter, and gleefully brags abt sexually assaulting women. A man with an ego the size of the entire country.

        I appreciate that liberals’ heads are exploding, and that Obama’s policies likely led to Trump’s success, but now we are all burdened with having this charlatan as President of the United States.

        And we thought Obots were cultists. Trumpanzees make them look even-keeled.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          I agree with everything you said. And I think things will get a whole lot worse before they get better.

          Still I have to look for a bright spot here and there or I’ll just go curl up in a corner and suck my thumb. Which sounds tempting even as I type it.

          I am enjoying watching the liberal media go nuts. So I will be damned if I’ll give the damn Trumpanzees the satisfaction of watching me do the same.

          I wish I believed our long national temper-tantrum, lead by Trump, was over. Sadly I think it’s just beginning.

          Watch his voters and supporters – a brat that gets it’s own way doesn’t suddenly behave itself. It only demands more.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            LOL – that is quite the visual, Marge. Thanks for the smile – that’s something!

            And yes, you are right – a leopard doesn’t change his spots overnight, and Trump is not going to be more Presidential now all of a sudden.

            One of his supporters mentioned on Facebook that she hopes he will be Conservative and honorable. Um, what?? When has he ever been EITHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS?? The level of delusion – willful delusion – is astonishing.

            That said, I get your point at not giving them the satisfaction of watching our heads explode…

      • piper Says:

        Hannity lost me a long time ago just like Chris Matthews with all his ranting and raving while his guests were talking.

        I was quite surprised by the huge number of Trump signs all over the state. Only saw one Hillary sign in Madison which was telling.

        Well given that there is still a GOP congress with a soon to be Republican President, campaign promises need to be delivered soon or there might be an upset 2 years down the road.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          I dislike both of them intensely too. Hannity may be riding high right now but the puzzled look on images of seen of Chris Matthews is so much fun. Come uppance time for Tweety.

  2. piper Says:

    I would like to post pictures from my biking trip on Elroy to Sparta trail last weekend. The weather was unusually warm and sunny which inspired me to drive 200 miles for a 64 miles round trip on one of the oldest rail to trail bike route.

    So would like a bit of help posting pictures without any identifying info about me.

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

  4. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I am glad that Ron Johnson won in Wisconsin. That is a bright light not getting Feingold back in. So congratulations on that, Marge and piper!

  5. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Oh, and I have to ask – since Clinton won the popular vote, are Trumpkins still going to claim the election was rigged? No? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It occurred to me that this is the second time Clinton has won the popular vote and lost the contest. Perhaps that lessens the sting some…

  6. helenk3 Says:


    the next 70 days are going to be a really bumpy ride for America.
    executive orders. regulations, pardons
    backtrack’s last middle finger to America

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I agree – he will probably do as much damage as he possibly can. Word is the lefties are all ready begging Michelle to run in 2020.

      One thing you have to give the left, they never stop and they never give up. While the Trump and the Trumpanzees are doing a victory dance the left is plotting for the next election.

      They won’t have to plot too hard because I’m positive that Trump will give them all the ammunition they need. And they won’t be stupid enough to run a corrupt old hag against him next time.

  7. helenk3 Says:

    I wonder how many voted against Hillary not for Trump. I know that was my reason. The thought of her continuing backtrack’s horrible actions toward this country was too much for me.
    I did not like either candidate, but I caved 10 minutes before voting due to her commercial of how she would continue backtrack’s legacy. It did not make me happy. First time I came home and cried for my country after voting.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I suspect there are a lot of voters like you Helen. They loathe him but saw her as an extension of Obama – and they just couldn’t vote for that.

      I am hoping that all the things about Trump, mainly that he’s nuts, won’t come true. Perhaps he’ll get bored with doing anything except having rallys and tweeting and will let Pence do the governing work. I don’t like Pence but at least I don’t think he’s got a screw loose.

      Same with Gingrich – I loathe him as a man but he isn’t crazy and I suspect he will have some pull with Trump.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I imagine many did just as you did, Helen. That is definitely the impression I have gotten from others who I know voted for Trump lest Hillary win. Bless your heart, I know that was hard for you…

      Suzy basically said the same thing abt the possibility of Trump picking others to do the work. In fact, he had said he wanted someone else to do all the governing so he could sit back and get all the accolades.

      That said, yeah, maybe those other guys would be okay since they aren’t nuts.

      And I hope we are wrong abt our concerns, too.

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

  9. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    One of my nieces just put this up at Facebook, The first line is hers: “For those of you who need something to tell your children- “To all the little girls who are watching this: never doubt that you are valuable and powerful and deserving of every chance and opportunity in the world to achieve your own dreams.”- Hillary Clinton in her concession speech.”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, I might add – she is a Republican, but she has daughters, so there’s that…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Even if the speaker of the words is a serial liar, the words are still true. Sounds like Hillary is trying to make out that she lost because she’s a woman not because she’s a crook. Nice try but no cigar.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Oh, I didn’t take it quite the same way. I mean, yes – sh is playing the woman card, but it seemed like she was encouraging young women to go for their dreams no matter what.

        But then again, I’m a baby duck! 😉

  10. piper Says:

    Thank you Amy and Marge for writing all the awesome threads and sharing your stories, lives and cartoons.

    I will send my biking pics tomorrow. Choose the ones you want. It was the perfect time to shut down the computer and get out and enjoy probably my last long ride of the season.

  11. helenk3 Says:

    I really do not think we have another choice

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Clinton was conciliatory in her concession speech saying we should give Trump a chance to lead: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/305197-clinton-concedes-presidential-race

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Good for her. I think that we all need to step back and take a deep breath and try to figure out what’s best for the country. Because like him or not Trump and his supporters sent a powerful message to the PTB yesterday. I don’t think the politicians will take people for granted quite like they have for so long.

      Because it wasn’t just the Trump supporters that beat Hillary, it was all the Dems that didn’t show up for her too. And the Bernie voters that went for Gary Johnson.

  13. helenk3 Says:


    world leaders reaction to trump win

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      No surprise that Putin sends congratulations and is willing to reestablish relations – him and Donny are buds donchaknow? Okay, I was trying to be nice – I just couldn’t help myself.

  14. piper Says:

    Obama’s legacy will live on thru Trump’s reign


  15. piper Says:

    Trump will keep intact Obama famous legacy

  16. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Another first for Trump – first President-elect to not use this phrase in over 30 yrs: http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/09/trump-is-the-first-president-elect-not-to-say-god-bless-america/21602658/

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Why am I not surprised? Maybe all those “Christian” Leaders can explain that too. Maybe, no I’m sure they can. Or excuse it anyway.

  17. kenoshamarge Says:

    If there really was any justice in this country…

  18. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    After seeing videos of people rioting over Trump, I wrote this at my Facebook page: Suzy and I were discussing the outrage and protests over Trump being the President-Elect this morning. The thing is, as Suzy noted, DEMOCRATS have no one but themselves to blame for Trump even being the nominee. THEY crossed over in droves with FAR more Dems than Reps voting for him to make him the nominee because that was the plan. Check Clinton’s emails – that was the plan of the DNC to make the most extreme Rep. the nominee. Well, they did that. And blue collar Dems crossed over to vote for Trump because of jobs and the Dems moving the country toward Socialism. So yeah – no one to blame but Dems themselves.

    Mind you, no one is more surprised than I am that this country elected a serial adulterer philander bully liar fraud-committing sociopath (according to his ghostwriter) who has made incredibly inappropriate sexual comments abt his own daughter AND women in general. Especially from the Party that claimed to be all abt values. They can stop that meme right now because it is clearly crap.

    But the bottom line is this: he is now the President-Elect. All these people protesting and rioting can get over themselves and grow the hell up already. This is the process and how we roll. If you are unhappy abt it, work toward defeating him in 2020. Or stop crossing over and allow Reps to select their own nominees and let the best person win. You were too cute by half with this plan and it backfired mightily. So deal with it.

    • piper Says:

      You and Suzy are absolutely right about the dem. plan and how it back fired on them. One of my good friend, a staunch argumentative democrat, shared their cross-over plan and how well it had worked in past elections.

      Supposedly the left is all about free love and free whatever so lets see how they and the religious right deal with this recently elected lunatic and his wife, the highly photogenic model of erotica.

  19. piper Says:

    Have a great day. I’m off exploring another bike trail, lapping up as much of another warm sunny day as I can before old man winter arrives here.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I too am enjoying the sunshine Piper. Nothing ever seems quite as bad with the sun streaming in the window. Tomorrow the temperature is supposed to drop so we had both best enjoy this lovely day as much as possible.

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