Well, That Didn’t Last Long; And Something To Take Off The Edge *Weekend Open Thread*


It did not take President-Elect Donald Trump much time at all to start walking back all of those campaign promises he made. Nope, not at all.

Like me, you have probably seen some headline about all the different things Trump will do immediately to revoke Obamacare. Case in point, this one from The Hill, “How Trump Could Start Dismantling ObamaCare On Day One.” Or this one from ABC News, “Can Trump Repeal Obamacare in First 100 Days?” You know, like he promised he would?

Well, see, that was then, and now Trump has met with Obama, so you know, NOW he is considering just AMENDING Obamacare. I know you might think this is a Weekend Open Thread Satire post, but no. It’s real. From The Hill:


The more surprising part about Trump’s interview is the marked shift in his tone from his campaign speeches, when he blasted the healthcare law as “a disaster,” “a total catastrophe,” a “horror” and “a big, fat, horrible lie.”
Trump told the Journal he is open to keeping parts of ObamaCare after a pitch from the current president during their meeting at the White House on Thursday.
“I told him I will look at his suggestions, and out of respect, I will do that,” Trump told the WSJ.
Walking back Trump’s promise of a full repeal of ObamaCare could become a major frustration for his supporters and the GOP as a whole. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Gee, ya think?? It will, however, give many of us the opportunity to do this:

I think we are going to get really, really good at this dance. Because this is not the ONLY major issue on which the President-Elect has already started to walk back just since TUESDAY NIGHT.

There is this, too, as a dear friend shared from The Daily Wire:

A senior adviser to Donald Trump is suggesting that the Iran deal won’t necessarily be destroyed under Trump’s forthcoming presidency.

The Times of Israel reports that Walid Phares, who is one of Trump’s chief foreign policy advisers, signaled in a BBC radio interview that Trump is already going wobbly on the Iran deal, as “ripping up is maybe a too strong of word.” Instead, Trump will simply “review it.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

He is going to “review” it? Well, that is a FAR cry from abolishing it right off the bat, ain’t it? Good grief.

Oh, but wait – there is one more flip-flop by Day Three my friend noted in response to the whole Obamacare bait-and-switch. This one has to do with one of the very first things Trump claimed he was gonna get done. Oh, you know what it was: the Wall, and getting Mexico to pay for it. The Week has this doozy:

Two days after Donald Trump was elected president, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, an ardent Trump supporter, admitted the president-elect’s promise to get Mexico to fund his proposed border wall may have just been “a campaign device.” “He may not spend much time trying to get Mexico to pay for it,” Gingrich said of a hypothetical border structure. “But it was a great campaign device.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

I believe this calls for an extended version:

Uh, yeah. Better stay limber, friends. I think we wll be doing this dance a LOT.

But enough of that. I don’t want to give anyone the vapors or heart palpitations, so time for a total change of pace to keep our heads from exploding.

And I have JUST the thing to take off that edge. Prepare for some cuteness, laughs, and gasps, all courtesy of the animal world. From HuffPo, here are just a few of the winners. There are more, and you can check them out here:


“The contest celebrates great photography of wildlife, but with the humorous element thrown in,” he told PBS.org. “We wanted to have a photo competition that was positive and upbeat but with a serious message about wildlife conservation attached to it.”

Judges picked 40 finalists after burrowing their way through more than 2,000 animal images from 75 different countries. […]


Holy cow, wouldn’t that just freak you out if you were heading to the bathroom and a KOMODO DRAGON walked out?! Wowie zowie. This would be the “gasp” one to which I referred. Yeah – crazy. The other ones just made me laugh, and I figured we could all use some laughter right about now.

And some hope. We could use some hope, too. To that end, I offer you these words of hope from Ellen Degeneres:

Okay, that iguana part at the end was a little hard to watch, but YAY for how it all turned out!

Hope and laughter – two most necessary components for the next four years.

That’s it for me. What’s on your minds? Feel free to discuss anything at all since this is the Weekend Open Thread.

Stay well, stay safe.


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53 Responses to “Well, That Didn’t Last Long; And Something To Take Off The Edge *Weekend Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    Okay, the minute Ellen mentioned snakes , I was gone.

    I loved the owl. The way they can turn their head just amazes me. I’ve reached point where if I can turn my head enough to see who’s beside me it’s a great day. So hurray for the owl and his free turning neck!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOL – I totally appreciate that. It was CREEPY, I’ll admit. But the little baby iguana survived them all and raced off to live another day. It is all abt HOPE!

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I don’t like iguana’s much better than snakes but I don’t want to see anything eaten by a snake.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Iguanas are all over Grand Cayman – I am pretty used to them now. 🙂

          In the video, the baby does not get eaten. As Ellen said, she wasn’t going to show people anything sad! 😀

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    I never expected much from Trump so I’m not set to be disappointed. Anything good, anything at all, that comes from him or his administration will be a bonus for me.

    I also never expect any politician to keep their campaign promises. That just seems to be a fact of life anymore and that’s because no one seems to care. I care but there aren’t enough like me.

    There was some hope that maybe Pence and Newt and some people around Trump with brains might have some impact but Newt’s still out trashing #NeverTrumpers so guess that whole unity thing is gone too.

    One thing will give me some idea if the Trump Administration is going to do ANY good at all. The appointment of Trump’s chief of staff. If it’s Kelly Ann Conway there’s a chance. If it’s Steve Bannon – don’t expect anything good.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Excellent point. I told Suzy that I would be delighted to be proven wrong, though this is an inauspicious start considering his Wall and Obamacare were two big issues. Oh, and the Iran Deal. Now? Meh.

      I think it is also that his followers were SO adamant with me that he absolutely would do what he said he would do even though his record at that wasn’t very good. THIS time was going to be different, he was different, he wasn’t a politician, and he was going to make these changes.

      Yeah I didn’t buy it, nor did you. But they did hook, line, and sinker.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        My take is that no matter what he does, just as during the campaign, the true Trump believers will makes excuses for him or ignore anything they don’t like. Or blame the media.

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    The Dems aren’t doing themselves any favors either…

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      No, they most definitely are not. I’ll have to bring forward Phyllis Chesler’s excellent piece abt how these kids do not know what a dictator is.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Michael Brown: The Coddled Generation That Wasn’t Taught to Grow Up

    There are millions of fine young people across America today, people of character, people of principle, people of discipline, people of maturity. But there are millions of others who have been coddled all their lives, almost never taught to lose or be put in their place or take full responsibility for their actions. It is some of those young people who are protesting on the streets and being comforted by their professors as they cry on college campuses in the aftermath of the elections.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Honest to God, I have never seen anything like this behavior in all my born days. It is insane that they are so emotionally immature at their age. Their parents and teachers have done society no favors, that’s for sure…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        Coloring books and Play-doh for college students? You have got to be kidding me.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Isn’t that just nuts? As expensive as college is, THIS is the kind of thing that is going on? Just obscene, especially since these snowflakes want US to pay for them to attend these universities. Uh, yeah, NO.

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    I am still taking a wait and see attitude with the Trump Administration. Mostly because the man is like a wind sock – he blows one way and then the other.

    I fear, given Ivanka’s influence, and her being a strong liberal, she will have a lot to say about how things go.

    But just when I am back into loathing Trump mode again, the Dems do something that makes me think they’re worse…

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Can you believe that? Those thugs beating up an elderly man just because he voted for Trump?? WOW. I have ZERO love lost for Trump, but c’mon – this is how Elections are done in this country. To get violent and attack people is voter intimidation on a criminal scale. Those punks should have their butts thrown in jail for some time to come.

      And bringing this forward from your Veterans Day post, this good piece by Phylis Chesler abt these kids freaking out: http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/the-anti-trump-protesters-dont-know-what-a-real-dictator-is/

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    My Representative, Mark Sanford, had this good take on the election (he is a Republican): A Few Thoughts on the Election: As you may know the South Carolina state motto is Dum spiro spero – while I breathe, I hope. In this regard, last night’s election and its results represent the chance for a new beginning and the hope that comes with it.

    I think that there are a couple of interesting things that stand out about the election from my perspective.

    One, it had less to do with Trump and Clinton than either of the candidates will ever realize – and more to do with people’s concerns about what comes next economically in this country. Fundamental to the American dream is this notion of opportunity…that I did so well, that my kids will do better than that, and that my grandkids will do still better. In ways that have never before been the case in American history, people are calling that notion into question, and I think that had much to do with the wave of voter energy and momentum that we saw last night. In fact, median household income has in essence held flat for the last sixteen years. Americans tried eight years of a Republican president, and then eight years of a Democratic president, and in neither case did they find the economic security that they had been looking for. Donald Trump represented something different, and they were more than ready to try a new approach. It will be most interesting to see what that looks like as it’s put into legislative form over the weeks and months ahead.

    Two, even though the pollsters, media pundits, and assorted Washington experts were left speechless last night in what occurred, it was in many ways predictable at some level from the very start. Back in January, I said that political movements always trump political candidacies, and we certainly saw that last night. Even leaving the movement phenomenon aside, there have been six two-term presidential election cycles since World War II wherein the basic question boiled down to whether or not the American public would give the party in power at the White House a third term. In five of the six election cycles, the American public said, let’s try something different. In this regard, what happened last night was not as shocking as the media has made it sound.

    Three, I’m a South Carolinian and indeed hopeful. I’ve never served in Congress when one party controlled the House, Senate, and White House. It brings with it a time to fish or cut bait. We can’t say if only we had the Senate or the White House, and so I’m hopeful for the legislative change that can come in this kind of environment. It may mean the Senate needs to change its own rules. It may mean the people have to take some tough votes rather than stand by legislative inaction as they blame another body for no forward movement.

    Finally, it’s time to act on the debt, deficit, and government spending issue. We are now in the fourth longest, though anemic, economic expansion since 1854. At some point the economy is going to turn down, and if we have not put a real dent in the way that Washington spends money, the debt and deficit will explode. We are indeed walking our way toward the most predictable financial crisis in the history of man, and it’s important that we take the opportunity before us to do something that would save each one of us enormous pain.

    So what does all this add up to? I think the answer is an opportunity, if we will make the most of it. That’s certainly what I will be trying to do with our new Congress and President-elect Trump.

    I like that he is not all in for Trump, and is a “wait and see” kind of person…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I’ve never been a Sanford fan but he sure nailed it with this piece. Especially when he said “It had less to do with Trump and Clinton than either of the candidates will ever realize. ” Or than either party or the pundits or the media, for the most part, will ever realize.

      The Dems definitely don’t get it . This is their bone-headed plan:

      “DNC Prepares To Elevate Muslim Congressman Ellison To Chief.”


      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I can appreciate that abt Sanford. I have to say, though – he was a good Governor and he has been an excellent Representative for our District. But I do understand people having issues with him, especially after that whole mistress-now-fiance thing…

        I thought he made some really good points, though. He sends out these emails weekly letting his constituents know what he has been doing and for what he has been fighting.

        So does Sen Scott, who is considering a Gubernatorial run with his best friend, Trey Gowdy (seriously – they eat dinner together just abt every night in DC, and are really good friends). THAT would be something!

        As for Ellison, you have GOT to be kidding me. Never even mind him being a Muslim – are the Dems not hearing that people are angry abt their POLICIES??? And Ellison is pretty Lefty, if memory serves. Wow, talk abt tone-deaf…

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Sorry, Trump Protestors: This Is What Democracy Looks Like

    “This is what democracy looks like!” That was my favorite chant during the anti-war protests I participated in my senior year of high school in 2004. Twelve years later, the same folks I marched down Sixth Avenue with protesting outside the Fox News building are back at it, protesting the victory of Donald Trump.

    I’ve got some bad news for the thousands of my former comrades marching through the streets: You saw what democracy looks like on Tuesday night. The election of Donald J. Trump was perhaps unfortunate from your perspective (and truthfully, mine), but he is now our president, and there are no do-overs in a democracy.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Yes, this is exactly what Democracy looks like. When Reagan won while I was in seminary, a VERY liberal seminary, I might add, we did not take to the streets and riot. We were mad our candidate lost, but that was that. We went to class the next day and everything!


  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    Laura Ingraham under consideration for White House press secretary

    Conservative radio host Laura Ingraham is under serious consideration to be Donald Trump’s White House press secretary, according to two sources with direct knowledge.

    Trump appreciated Ingraham’s loyalty through the campaign. A former white-collar defense attorney and Supreme Court law clerk, Ingraham helped Trump with debate preparation. She also campaigned on his behalf and offered occasional strategic advice.

    With the possible exceptions of Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter and Breitbart, no media figure or outlet did more to promote Trump’s candidacy than Ingraham.


  10. kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      THat is spot on. These kids don’t see how hypocritical and idiotic they look. Even liberal friends of mine are complaining abt their actions on Facebook. THAT is telling.

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    The Electoral College Still Makes Sense Because We’re Not A Democracy

    The purpose of the Electoral College is to balance voting power across states so no one region of the country can gain too much control. If a president is elected by a simple majority of votes, a candidate who is wildly popular in one region (e.g., Ted Cruz in Texas, Mitt Romney in Utah) can ignore smaller regions and campaign only where large majorities are possible. Or a candidate who kills in California and New York can write off “flyover country” completely.

    If, however, the Electoral College elects a president, a candidate who is wildly popular in one region must also prevail in a number of sub-elections to win. The Electoral College ensures a better result for the country as a whole than the democratic power play wherein 51 percent of us matter and 49 percent of us don’t


    Do we want to be “ruled” by California and New York?

    I also have no doubt that had Clinton won the Electoral Vote and Trump the popular vote that the Trump supporters would be behaving very badly. However I don’t think they would be burning police cars. Beating up some people? Maybe, even probably. Such is the way we conduct ourselves these days.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, yeah, I am sure Trumpkins would have been angry had that happened, but I doubt they would have engaged in the same level of mayhem…

      That cartoon is great! I saw something abt CA wanting to secede, and all I can say is: Good! Let them! Then they will stop skewing politics and regulations for the rest of us. And we won’t have to spend so much tax money on them, either. Buh bye!

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    There was this interesting article inReuters abt Trump and his breaking promises “at his peril”: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-promises-idUSKBN1362AC

    I know all politicians break their promises, but in the first three days after the election?? That seems particularly callous and cynical. We got what those others voted for though – nothing to be done for it now but try and live through it…

  13. kenoshamarge Says:

    Lessons from 2016 part 1: An open letter to Donald Trump

    By Steve Deace

    I’m sure already you’ve been told you have to be more “presidential,” and that is true. But that term doesn’t always mean what we think it means. To people outside the beltway, presidential means a dignified but commanding presence.

    However, to the people where you will now reside, it means something else entirely. To them it means becoming one with the machine. Ingratiating yourself in their sub-culture to be welcomed in Washington’s high society.

    It means maintaining the corrupt status quo, and anything contrary to it is considered “extreme.” It means allowing the media and your political opponents to set the agenda, while Republicans are content with table scraps should they “evolve.” See that as becoming progressive-lite.


  14. helenk3 Says:

    off topic
    Super moon tonight.
    November has been an interesting month so far
    Cubs win the series
    Trump wins the election
    Moon has not been this close to the earth since 1948

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      As a result of the Super-Super-Moon, we are having higher King tides than normal here. This morning, the water was up to the bottom of the docks. The paper said that we could expect tides a foot or so higher than the already unusually high king tides.

      HOPE to see the Super-super-moon, but we are finally getting rain after 30+ days, so no telling how it will be in the morning. But hey – thankful indeed for the rain, especially with the wildfires going on in the Upstate, the smoke from which blanketed us Friday.

      Anyway, yeah – it has been quite the year, huh?

  15. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    BREAKING NEWS: Trump makes Reince Priebus his WH Chief of Staff – THAT explains a whole lot right there. And, he is making the jackass Bannon his WH chief strategist and senior counselor: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news-campaigns/305796-priebus-to-be-trumps-chief-of-staff-report

    That says so, so, so much…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Stupid move IMO. Many, most conservatives hate both these men with a passion. So much for unity. And my “hope” just plummeted.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Suzy said at least it gets Priebus out of the head of the RNC, so that is a silver lining, she said

        But you are so right, Marge I thought of you immediately when I heard the news. WOW. Just WOW. This will set the tone and the stage for the next 4 yrs, no doubt abt it.

        It is shocking he didn’t pick Conway since SHE is why he ended up doing so well, cleaning up Bannon’s mess. That is telling, too…

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          This was the response of a dear friend – she is absolutely spot on. Like I said, this move explains a lot: OMG, no wonder Priebus threatened people at the convention who wanted to free the delegates, and those who weren’t supporting Trump after the nomination. He was looking out for his own best interests. What a mealy mouthed little scumbag. And Bannon? Jeez. Well, we’re in trouble if these are the “great” people Trump is going to surround himself with. Corruption, intimidation, pettiness, vindictiveness….gosh, it’ll be just like the Obama WH!

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      This was Trump’s statement from The Hill article: “Steve and Reince are highly qualified leaders who worked well together on our campaign and led us to a historic victory. Now I will have them both with me in the White House as we work to make America great again,” Trump said in a statement.

      Again, WOW…

  16. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    And so it continues – WTH is wrong with Reps?? The majority of the Nation has been calling for the REPEAL of Obamacare since the very beginning. Now, between Trump’s latest proclamation and this, Heaven only knows if we will get rid of this or not: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/305669-republicans-face-divisions-over-obamacare-repeal

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I don’t think Trump knows what the hell he’s gonna do or say from day to day. I am trying to remain hopeful but it’s difficult when I’m back to saying to myself over and over again, this man is nuts.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Yeah, I know exactly what you mean abt the “nuts” part AND not knowing what he is going to do. This is going to be SOME 4 yrs…

  17. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Good. Lord. Just SMH: http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/14/report-trump-was-unfamiliar-with-the-scope-of-the-presidents-j/21605331/

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      This doesn’t surprise me a bit. He, and most of his supporters are so ignorant of how government works it is amazing. He probably cannot walk and chew gum.

      He is in effect a real estate agent and game show host. That hardly qualifies someone to the highest “executive” position in the nation.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        It really is astonishing. That a third or so of Reps were all in for this unbelievably ignorant man never ceases to amaze and confound me. This is the world’s SUPER POWER, and we basically put some intern in off the street who hasn’t the FOGGIEST how things work in the WH.


        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I just heard on HLN that Priebus and Bannon will be EQUAL in power, and that Bannon will NOT have to go through Priebus to have access to Trump. UGH.

  18. kenoshamarge Says:

    Muslim College Student Said Trump Supporters Assaulted Her. Here’s The Truth.

    On Thursday, The Washington Post reported that a female Muslim college student at the University of Louisiana was assaulted and robbed by two white male Trump supporters, apparently sporting white “Trump” hats during the incident.

    The left, of course, jumped all over the attack, as it fed into their narrative that Trump supporters are the violent ones; not the violent thugs currently committing arson, fighting each other, smashing car windows and assaulting Trump voters to demonstrate that “love trumps hate,” or what have you.

    But here’s the only problem: The accuser later confessed that this never happened. This “hate crime” was a complete fabrication; just another left-wing hoax manufactured to perpetuate a false narrative and vilify political opponents.


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good LORD. People!!! Yeah, I wonder how obvious WaPo is going to make the reality known. Sheesh.

  19. kenoshamarge Says:

  20. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    And yet another one of Trump’s MAJOR campaign promises: http://www.dailywire.com/news/10758/trump-begins-walk-back-illegal-immigration-frank-camp

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