🔷 Excuses, Excuses, Excuses 🔷 Open Thread


We have been subjected to so many excuses and autopsies of what happened on election day in the past week it’s difficult to keep track of who said what. We’ve heard both excuses and autopsies of the event from every possible perspective. Excuses mostly from the left. Excuses also from those prognosticators that got everything so wrong.

Having no skin in this game, having voted 3rd party I can for the first time I can remember just sit back and watch the show. No angst is good. It’s different. It’s almost fun. It is certainly easier on the blood pressure. It’s not that I don’t care, it’s that I didn’t want either of the possible outcomes and so I can look for any glimmer of hope even as I don’t expect it. Strange feeling really.

The Clinton camp seems to have decided to focus on James Comey as villain in chief. Hillary BLAMES COMEY for her humiliating defeat!

As Trump’s campaign manager Kelly Ann Conway said:  Hillary Clinton should perhaps “take a look in the mirror” before blaming FBI Director James Comey for her unexpected loss.

There are more rumors flying around than buzzards around a carcass in the desert. Trump will do this – Obama will do that, so and so is going to be SoS etc. etc. etc. I doubt anyone knows what Trump is going to do, including Trump.

Leaks are frequent, as they always are, and sometimes are even true. But don’t count on it. Every time someone says something it is being pushed as fact. Often the rumor isn’t true and was just someone trying to show how important they are by being “in the know.”

I suspect that many of the “rumors” are trial balloons sent up by the Trump people to see how high they fly. Or how quickly they go splat. It’s an old political tactic and one that works quite well.

Meanwhile the excuses and autopsies continue. Everybody has an opinion. Some may even be right. It’s hard to trust the opinions of people that got so much so wrong for so long. It’s hard to believe people who are so dishonest and untrustworthy. These pundidiots have lost our trust and I doubt they will get it back in my lifetime. But never mind, because it isn’t there fault – it’s ours. We being the people that don’t buy what they’re selling.mFohFXS.jpg

You have many on the left deciding to double down. They didn’t move far enough left they say. I guess they didn’t notice the repudiation of most of their lefty notions. Or noticed, and as usual, ignored them because they are so much smarter than us. So the excuse from these fools, one being Michael Moore, is that they didn’t move far enough left. I hope they continue to act as if this was so because it will hasten their demise.

I find many of the “autopsies” particularly amusing because as we all know, “hindsight has 20/20 vision”. Therefore they are being wise after the fact. And still getting it all wrong.

Of course Dems weren’t expecting to have to autopsy their loss. They expected to be celebrating and discussing the disarray of the GOP. Not that the GOP doesn’t have problems but their seem solvable now because the Dems lost so much. The Dems not only lost the White House, which they expected to win, but they didn’t get a majority in the Senate, which they thought they probably would, and they made small but insignificant gains in the House. The Republicans also picked up Governorships in Missouri, New Hampshire and Vermont. The Dems didn’t pick up a single Governorship. If this isn’t worrying them it should.

As the Democrats try to pick up the pieces the smart ones are actually trying to see what went wrong and how they can fix it. Others simply makes excuses, blame someone and therefore will not learn anything from their defeat. Since I’ve come to loathe liberals that’s all good with me.LdABlcn.gif

 Some of the liberal media is doing a mea culpa, of a sort. Like the NYT and it’s We blew it on Trump piece. As Michael Goodwin reports Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. insists that his staff had “reported on both candidates fairly.” Sulzberger also vowed that the paper would “rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor.”

Do you believe that? Or do you think Sulzberger is trying to cover his derrierre and regain some little bit of credibility? Most likely both but I suspect it’s too late for either. When you wave the pom-poms are vigorously as the NYT and most of the media did credibility is mostly gone. The public no longer trusts them and they lost right along with the Clintons.

Much as I loathe Trump watching the media go down in flames is satisfying.

Whatever else happens we can expect the excuses, and the autopsies to continue. The left has lost a lot.

I suspect with a horribly flawed president-elect like Donald J. Trump the right has lost a lost too. The country certainly deserved better than the choices they had although many Trump supporters don’t think that.

For now I’m just watching the show. I’m hoping that along the way someone in government may actually do something that will benefit the country. But then I’m an optimist. Feel rather silly being optimistic at my age and with what I’ve seen over the years but better that than feeling depressed all the time as I did most of the 8 years Obama was/is president.

I am hoping for the best even while expecting the worst. Trump starts off by ripping chunks out of my optimism and hope by appointing Reince Priebus as his Chief of Staff. Off to a bad start, Donny.

I keep telling myself with Trump there is no way to go but up… I wish I believed me. What excuses will the right make for him?


29 Responses to “🔷 Excuses, Excuses, Excuses 🔷 Open Thread”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    House Democrats Need More Time to Think About Nancy Pelosi

    Rank-and-file Democrats in the House are wondering if their leadership, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi included, should be getting re-elected so quickly. It was under their assurances that Trump would undoubtedly drag Republicans to more losses.

    That promise didn’t materialize on Election Day.

    A group of House Democrats are not outright saying they wish to elect new leaders, but have asked for a delay in elections to allow for more time to evaluate what happened on Election Day and to figure how to move forward.

    Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Whip Steny Hoyer have led their caucus for over ten years. A growing number of Democrats are whispering that, after such a disappointing election, something needs to change.


    How has the House done well under Pelosi? Seems to me she has been an abysmal failure. But if they want to keep her in place it’s fine with anyone that wants the left to decline and ultimately hit bottom. I include myself in that group.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Oh, my – wouldn’t that be an awesome outcome of this election?? While you make a great point abt her continuing to drag the House down on the Dem. side, for her to have that kind of public renunciation would be just desserts for her.

      Can’t help but have a smile on my face at this! 🙂

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

  3. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    What a great post, Marge – thank you for this! You nailed it. And yeah, I am trying to adopt a “hide and watch” position, but Trump is already making that difficult…

  4. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    OH – what did you think of Trump referring to the Clintons as “good people”? I thought they were supposed to be evil incarnate, according to him. Now they are good??

    Yeah – like we didn’t try to tell people this is exactly the kind of doublespeak in which Trump would engage…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Isn’t that unbelievable? I am trying very hard not to say I told you so – but we did. Over and over again.

      To paraphrase Bette Davis, “It’s gonna be a bumpy ride.”

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    Mollie Hemingway: How Jon Stewart And ‘The Daily Show’ Elected Donald Trump

    Absurdity is at the heart of comedy. Mockery can be a way to show that something or someone defies logic or is otherwise absurd. At its best, and at the beginning, prior to 2004, “The Daily Show” excelled at using mockery as part of its repertoire of comedy tricks. But different views than the elites’ aren’t automatically absurd. When the majority of opposing arguments are treated as absurd, the schtick wears thin.


  7. insanitybytes22 Says:

    LOL! I am glad you have found some peace and are just observing this election for it’s entertainment value.

    I am astounded by how the left, Dems, liberals, are still not listening to the people. They are still trying to claim everyone is just “racist, sexist,an uneducated imbecile,or rural,” said with such contempt and sneering. So like, that contempt and sneering that persists to this day has a whole lot to do with why people chose to just lob a molotov cocktail at the establishment.

    I tried to explain it to someone who hates Trump,someone who was insisting I was a racist, but not just that, a “rape enabler.” How do you even speak to people like that?

    Anyway, I eventually said rather sarcastically, it all boils down to a tic tac. When Trump stepped off that bus, bragging about all the women he could grab, he stopped and asked for a tic tac. If we’re all going to get screwed, at least let it be done by the man who has good breath.

    I jest a bit here, but seriously, that tic tac said a whole lot. I’ve never known an outright rapist to even worry about such things, a lounge lizard perhaps, but not a rapist.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      If I don’t just watch the show I’ll drive myself nuts. I couldn’t understand how anyone could support either of the two major candidates. At my age being confused is a constant worry. Is it me or is it really confusing?

      Now I am trying desperately to find some ray of hope. It’s hard work but not as hard as being so pi$$ed off all the time. That really takes it out of ya.

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Does the Country Even Want to Come Together?

    People aren’t interested in the country coming together, they’re interested in the country coming to them.

    This isn’t a new phenomenon. The entire definition and concept of compromise has changed, particularly in the nation’s capital over the last decade.

    What used to be “a settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands,” according to Dictionary.com, has become a game to hold out until the other side gives in or your side gains enough power to steamroll your opponent.

    People and politicians don’t want compromise. They want the other side to agree with their position and then call it compromise.

    The standoff usually results in gridlock and politicians getting the blame. But at some point, voters have to take at least partial responsibility for what happens in Washington.


  9. kenoshamarge Says:

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Truth will out – seems Trump tried to buy favors from media personalities. Megyn Kelly wuoldn’t have it: http://therightscoop.com/megyn-kelly-reveals-trump-tried-buy-favorable-treatment/

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Did you notice in the comments how many are attacking Kelly? One is particular never has a good word to say about Megyn Kelly because she was tough on Cruz.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Oh, of course they are going to attack the messenger. Typical. i mean, this cannot be a surprise to anyone that Trump would do this, can it?

        And she is tough on everyone. Good Lord, people need to grow up…

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    A friend had this article from The Right Scoop at Facebook. Ben Shapiro’s response to Bannon essentially having the top spot in Trump’s Administration: http://therightscoop.com/ben-shapiro-weighs-steve-bannons-appointment-white-house-media-attacks/

  12. helenk3 Says:

    Gwen Ifill
    Editor’s note: Journalist Gwen Ifill has worked for The Washington Post, New York Times, NBC News and PBS, and was one of the most prominent African American panelists and moderators, The Post reports. WETA President and CEO Sharon Percy Rockefeller told her staff that Ifill died in hospice in Washington, D.C. The Daily Beast reports she was private about her health and was reluctant to publicly share the details of her battle with cancer. – Stephanie
    Read more on washingtonpost.com

  13. kenoshamarge Says:

    Only 61? Young to die. Never was a fan but I hope she rests in peace.

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  15. piper Says:

    And the beat goes on – wonder how long before the trumpsters realized that campaign blather is nothing more than a con to win an election and has nothing to do with actual governance once inside the gub-er-mint.

    Explain this – why would trumps kids need to be informed of our country’s secrets.


    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Rabid Trumpanzees will think it’s just dandy. They don’t have the cognitive ability to see what’s wrong with anything he does. Cultists are like that.

      People with a brain will wonder why people that do not hold any official position in the Trump Administration should be informed of classified material.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      It is telling in deed that Trump wants the very people to whom he gave leadership of his companies to have top security clearance. Um, WHY??? If the two are supposed to be separate, they don’t NEED to have clearance. In fact, they should steer clear of any governance at ALL to make sure there is no hint of impropriety.


  16. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    The author of this Federalist piece makes a great point abt the Dems and their Trans agenda, and how it impacted the election: http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/15/selling-women-transgender-bullies-helped-elect-donald-trump

    I had wondered why there had not been more outcry from PARENTS abt this Obama overreach. I guess there was more than the media reported (shocking).

    • piper Says:

      One of the reasons why more women voted for trump. Another one which the media won’t report on, is a bit sexist, that women can’t preside over a large company or country even though there has been great women leaders throughout history. And then there is jealousy from more women than men over women succeeding so even if women are applauding success they would rather pick a low life man to govern.

      So many thoughts about this election ranging from why Bernie Sanders, another low life thinking only of himself, was able to run under the democrat banner to why supposedly smart people chose a con over qualified candidates. Also how many people who participated in cross-over voting now regret their bumbling action.

  17. piper Says:

    A beautiful sight to behold on Sunday night.

    20161113 Cloudy Moon

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thank you for this, Piper! We had not had rain in over a MONTH, but it rained on Sun., and the evening was overcast. I was so disappointed. Not for the rain – we needed it – but that the skies didn’t clear in time to see this Super-Super-Moon!

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