We Could Use A Little – A Lot – Of Prayer *Open Thread*

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praying-handsI don’t know about you, but I can tell you that this Election season has increased my level of prayer, especially for this nation. It has been a near constant refrain running through my head of, “Oh, Lord,” or “Dear God,” or “Heaven help us,” or, “Lord have mercy (Christ have mercy) Lord have mercy…”

Most of the time, it wasn’t even conscious – just a running refrain in my head, heart and soul as our nation lurched toward yet another election in our history, with who many of us consider to be the two worst candidates in our lifetimes. As the election results rolled in, many of us were just in shock. Of course, we likely would have been regardless of who won. Either way, many of us feared this nation would be in for a very bumpy ride.

So far, that fear seems justified. So does the prayer, incessant prayer, toward which many of us have turned. One such person, Mary C. Tillotsson, wrote about how her faith, and praying the Novena, helped her through this impossible choice, differentiating between prayer and panic, and put it all in some historical perspective. From The Federalist:

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High stakes with no clear solution, where we all have some agency but no real control over the outcome but have to abide by the decision—it’s a recipe for panic. Most days I’m too tired to handle much panic, and while I didn’t decide my presidential vote until the eleventh hour, I was fairly unemotional about it. I thought we ought to pray about the election, and was surprised and disappointed at how few people—and which people—seemed to get that.

Isn’t worry supposed to make people more inclined to pray? Yes, but worry and panic are different. There’s a line between legitimate concern over something important and all-out panic, where, if we pray at all, we toss up desperate pleas begging God to work things out in the only way we can see might not be excruciating. The latter attitude seemed rampant.

Hence, the author, a Catholic, turned to a novena – nine days of prayer, though Catholics aren’t the only Christians to engage in this practice, she noted. And, given this election season, Tillotsson got creative:

[…]

So I made “election novena” a Facebook event, and later I found a Catholic church nearby had published a novena for the election in its bulletin and the Knights of Columbus were sponsoring one, too, as were a few other Catholic organizations. On Halloween, many Catholics across the country began nine days of intense prayer and fasting for the election.

Many of us weren’t sure what we were hoping for. We wanted a president who would defend our right to live our faith, who would defend the right of all people to live, who respected everyone’s dignity, whom we could trust to lead this country in a good direction. But how was that going to happen? Hillary Clinton had all but vowed to dismantle everything we believe in, but the alternative was Donald Trump.

Uh, yeah. Talk about a rock and a hard place. Or as Tillotsson noted early in the article, like choosing between playing Russian Roulette and a loaded gun. Neither choice was really a palatable choice, to put it mildly.

And here comes that historical, theological perspective:

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I’ve been familiar with novenas my whole life, but only recently learned why we pray them. The nine days of prayer are modeled after the nine days the apostles spent in the Upper Room between the Ascension and Pentecost.

Consider the intensity with which they must have prayed. They had come to believe that Jesus was the Son of God and the Messiah, then saw him brutally executed like a criminal, then saw him bodily risen. They heard him teach for another month or so, and then he ascended into heaven. Right before his ascension, he reminded them of their commission to spread the good news, and promised to send them the Holy Spirit. And then he was gone.

And then Pentecost.

You know what didn’t happen at Pentecost? The Romans did not elect a morally upstanding, pro-life, pro-First Amendment emperor who cared deeply about the poor citizens and noncitizens of their empire. They did not quit leaving “unwanted” babies to die alone under bridges. They did not reconsider the ethics of slavery or gladiatorial games, or allow women to vote.

You know what did happen on Pentecost? The apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit. They were given courage to speak openly about the gospel even if it meant humiliation and death—and for many of them, it did. They were able to communicate the truth and joy of the gospel to people they couldn’t have said hello to before. Thousands of people heard, recognized, and believed the good news and were baptized. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

And there you have it. Panic, as Tillotsson concluded, isn’t helpful. We knew it was going to be bad regardless. We can hope that it won’t be as bad as we feared. But one thing is certain: Trump or Clinton, neither one has power over our beliefs, our exercise of religion, or the work of the Spirit within and among us. They just aren’t that powerful. No one is.

One thing is certain: this too shall pass. As Julian of Norwich said, “All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.”

And so it will be. We will get through this. Prayer will help us get through this. Or meditation and reflection. Whatever works for you. It is a proven fact that prayer, directed energy, works.

 

I’d say we could use a whole lot of prayer about now. How about you? This is an Open Thread.

 

 

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33 Responses to “We Could Use A Little – A Lot – Of Prayer *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    If OMG counts as prayer I been in prayer almost constantly for years. Not as reverent as some might wish but certainly heart felt.

    Thank you for this post Reverend Amy – we as a species often need to be reminded of the right to practice our religion that was given to us by God and affirmed in our Constitution.

    I do pray. Not formally as I was taught but often and with all my heart. Mostly I pray for forgiveness for my sins and shortcomings. Then I pray for friends and family who are sick, injured or in some distress. And then I pray for this country that has given me the right to do that.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      LOL, absolutely that counts as prayer – at least in my book!

      And my pleasure, Marge. It is indeed a right – whether others want to accept it or not. We know it is and can act on it. As the author noted, regardless of government or who is in it, we don’t really need them to approve of it – it will outlast them all…

      I totally hear you. Our prayers sound similar! And always framed with thankfulness and gratitude for the many blessings bestowed upon us…

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  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Shapiro Eviscerates Raucous Protesters At University Of Wisconsin

    Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief Ben Shapiro spoke at the University of Wisconsin-Madison on Wednesday night, and amid raucous leftist protesters who consistently tried to interrupt him and even blocked him from being seen by the audience by creating a human wall in front of him, found a way to respond with hilarious repartee that left the audience howling and the protesters eventually filing meekly out of the auditorium.

    After the ovation he received on entering, Shapiro quipped, “Hey look at this. A campus that doesn’t actually try to arrest me when I come.” He continued, “Before I begin, I did come bearing gifts for the social justice warriors in this room. I hear you’ve started wearing these safety pins around because you want to show your fellow college students how you’re not one of these awful, terrible Trump people, that you’re sensitive, and that you want to signal your virtue, so I’ve brought along these safety pins, (holding up safety pins) and I also brought you something to wear them with – this diaper.”

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/10869/shapiro-eviscerates-raucous-protesters-university-hank-berrien

    I just wonder how stupid you have to be to call a Jewish guy in a yarmulke a Nazi? Talk about “shame” – any college student that ignorant should really be ashamed.

    Along with not being willing to let someone else exercise their right of free speech.

    I know I’m ashamed that any resident of Wisconsin would act like the thug protesters did.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thank you for this article, Marge. I had seen the headline earlier and meant to get back to it, but got distracted. I intend to watch the video to get the full effect.

      And you ain’t only kidding. That is just beyond offensive. But it is also indicative of the revisionist history of the Left to portray Nazism as a RIGHT ideology, not one of the LEFT, as in Democratic Socialism, as in what Bernie Sanders calls himself They have done this expertly, I have to say, so calling a Conservative JEW a Nazi makes perfect sense in their ignorant minds.

      Wow…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I cannot express my admiration for Ben Shapiro enough. He smart, he’s tough and he’s absolutely fearless. Now that I’ve found his podcasts I listen to him often. Some days the darn things won’t load but I usually keep tinkering until they do.

        I was listening to Steve Deace and he said he was on Glenn Beck’s program yesterday. I’m gonna go look that up later – should be worth a listen.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Wouldn’t it be a breath of fresh air if Josh Ernest, Obama’s spokesweasel, would come out and just flat out tell the truth?

  5. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I really like my Governor, and as awesome a Sec. of State as she would be, I would really prefer that she not be a part of this Administration: http://www.postandcourier.com/news/haley-meeting-with-trump-now-campaign-confirms/article_2523e17a-acd0-11e6-88f4-afa80a60b1f7.html

    I would much prefer that she run for Sen. Scott’s seat should he and Rep. Gowdy run for Gov./Lt. Gov.

    Oh, and Haley was a RELUCTANT supporter of Trump’s, essentially saying she’d vote for him once he became the nominee, but she endorsed Rubio first, then Cruz. I’m actualyl surprised Trump is giving her the time of day, but she has done GREAT work for this State, is strong, smart, and experienced, so there is that…

    • piper Says:

      He needs strong women in his cabinet otherwise he’ll ……………

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Good point, piper. Still – would hate to lose her. She has been GREAT for the State of SC…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I can understand how you feel about someone you respect being a part of a Trump Administration.

      I felt the same about Cruz being a part of it. But if good decent people aren’t part of it then the administration will only be served by ignorance and nasty. If there is any good to come from the Trump Administration is will be from good people who do the right thing.

      I am thrilled with the idea of Cruz as AG. He would be awesome and could restore some “law” and “justice” to the DOJ.

      I don’t want to see him on the Supreme Court. At least not for about 20 years. To be one of nine under Roberts doesn’t strike me as the best use of his talents. And Roberts is young enough to be Chief Justice for a very, long time.

      As for staying in the Senate – I don’t see how he can accomplish much when there are so many RINOs there who will not join him in fighting the good fight.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        That is indeed an excellent point. I think Cruz would be an outstanding AG and would help restore the AG and the DOJ to being a lawful institution again. That is no small thing.

        And yes, if indeed Haley becomes the SoS, she would do well by this country, and the country would do well by her. She is a force, a woman of faith, and has foreign affairs experience. She would be great.

        Just selfish on my part to want her to be our next Senator, which would also help the country the way Sen. Scott has done.

        Honestly, having a Scott/Gowdy ticket is pretty much a sure-fire win, I think, for Gov./Lt. Gov., so both of their positions would be open.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          I can understand why you would hate to lose her. But damn, I think she would be an awesome SoS. And that, combined with her executive experience as Governor, should give her a leg up to run for president some day? How about that?

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            Oh, yeah – that is certainly true. And we would LOVE for her to be President. We are hoping she runs in 2020. She would make an outstanding President – smart, determined, resourceful, as well as compassionate – something that has been sorely lacking from the Oval these days it seems…

            And yes, Haley will have a TON of experience governing, but hey – these days that doesn’t matter one bit. Go figure! Ahaha…

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

    One of the funniest things around is the self-righteous grandson of a friend who is so proud of his electric car. He claims he is helping to save the environment. Him and his little car. Of course the electricity he uses to power his car comes from a coal fired power plant about 6 miles from where I sit in Pleasant Prairie, WI.

    I have an electric lawn mower and snow blower. Because I don’t like storing gas in my garage. Can I be a planet saver too now?

    BTW, my friend claims her daughter and son-in-law sent off a perfectly normal young man to college in Madison 3 years ago. It is, like most institutions of “higher” learning a bastion of liberalism. Now they even dread him coming home for Thanksgiving. One more year to go and then he can move into their basement and complain because he can’t find a job with his degree in Philosophy. For this they scrimped and saved to send this young fool off to college. Sad, really sad.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      ROTFLMAO – can you believe how they NEVER make that connection? That they can power their electric cars because of POWER companies? Wow…

      LOL – yeah, I have a battery powered weed whacker, leaf blower, things like that – I guess I’m a planet saver, too! Wahoo! 🙂

  8. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Seems Gov. Romney is on the list for Sec. of State, too: http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/17/trump-reportedly-considering-mitt-romney-for-secretary-of-state/21608667/

    I think he’d be a good choice, too. Calm, level-headed, experienced, and grounded, all characteristics that would matter.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      I think he would be great too. But I am amazed. I thought Trump never forgave anyone that didn’t kiss his ring? WTH is going on?

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Beats the hell out of me. All I can figure is that he was told he needed to reunite the party, and this was how to do it. You know, that Trump needed to get a very popular Southern governor, a woman, mind you, on board, or a Gov. who got more votes than he did but who made a lengthy statement abt how horrible a Trump Presidency would be, to show that Trump can forgive, and that even those people who were against him are now for him. I am sure there are LOTS of political machinations going on.

        No wonder Steve Deace said just to wait until it’s a done deal before trying to determine who was in/out.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          He also said not to jump at every rumor that comes along. The media is doing that. Makes them look even more foolish.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            It surely does make them look foolish. This whole Election season has exposed them and their partisan hackery ways…

  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    Do you think maybe all the liberals that applauded Obama’s pen and phone rule might be a tad concerned that Trump will do the same?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      ROTFL – that is awesome!

      And I have NO doubt their freak is FREAKED abt that, especially since Trump has already said he will be using his pen a whole lot…

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    I truly hope Trump nominates Cruz for the AG position. I think that would be the perfect place for him: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/306691-cruz-tells-friends-hes-interested-in-ag-job

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Now it’s looking like it might be Jess Sessions.

      The Hill had a good article on this whole Transition Team thing: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/306659-trumps-transition-takes-surprise-twist

      And I thought this was a good point: “We have to stop defining ‘normal’ further down into the abyss,” said Andrew Weinstein, a former spokesman for then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich. “An incoming president does not deserve credit for consulting with his own party’s leaders, and doing so does not make his proposed policies and appointments any less dangerous or extreme.”

      “President-elect Trump should be judged by his actions, not his handshakes, and his actions so far — including the Bannon appointment – have not been reassuring,” Weinstein said.

  11. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    It’s official – Jeff Sessions has been offered the AG job, and Mike Pompeo the CIA Directorate.

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