Electoral College D-Day *Open Thread*

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Well, it is finally here – the day the Electoral College certifies – or not – Donald Trump as the next President of the United States. The hue and cry over Trump continues, and the strong arming of electoral college voters has descended to the depths of death threats.

Apparently, that is how we roll now in the United States. If you don’t get your way, bully, bludgeon, harass, intimidate, and threaten people with bodily harm/death if they don’t do what you want them to do. To say that Democrats are being sore losers is an insult to sore losers. Their continued reactions to a race they lost all by them own selves by not showing up is astonishing.

Then again, this is the same behavior we saw from the Occupy Wall Street People and the continued behavior by many of the Black Lives Matter people, so I guess this is just who they are now. But their actions are far from democratic or even Constitutional. There is always a winner and a loser in these Presidential elections, and just because the Democratic candidate doesn’t win does not mean we have to burn down the whole system. Perhaps they could take a clue and look at their policies to learn something and make some changes rather than blaming everyone else. Then again, that would necessitate some maturity they have not yet demonstrated (as a whole, that is – I imagine there are some who accept this is the outcome, but their voices are not the ones we hear).

And since everyone is going on and on about this, CBS News has a piece that breaks down the whole popular vote thing was in each state. The chart showing each state and the differential is interesting:

The Electoral College votes Monday. Just as electors cast their ballots, here’s a look at the popular vote count from each state, based on the most updated results in each state compiled by CBS News:

2016 Popular Vote Totals by State by CBS News Politics on Scribd

 

 

 

CBS News’ Reena Flores contributed to this report. (Click here to read the rest.)

The Hill has five things for which we should be watching in today’s vote. Here are some of them:

[…]

How many Trump electors defect?

There’s no evidence of a widespread number of Republican defections—just one Republican elector from Texas has gone public with plans to break from Trump.

The so-called “Hamilton Electors” pushing for the revolt need to flip 36 more Republicans onto their side in order to throw the election to the House of Representatives. Even that would probably only delay the inevitable, with the Republican-controlled House eventually choosing Trump anyway. […]

How many Democrats follow through with compromise pick?

Democratic electors are the ones beating the drums for the revolt, yet they’re largely powerless to change the outcome.

A handful of electors are already planning on uniting around a Republican alternative as a protest, but it’s still unclear how many are willing to join the protest.

In theory, a unified front of the 232 Democrats could join with 38 Republicans to elect an alternative president. But in practice, the anti-Trump electors will be lucky if more than a dozen Democrats break.  […]

And that’s the thing. There is THEORY, and there is REALITY. What the final numbers will be will certainly be interesting, though I also have to wonder if there is more smoke than fire in these discussions.

Here’s the bottom line from The Hill:

[…]

Does vote change views on the Electoral College?

The 2016 election has been a crash course for many Americans on the ins and outs of the electoral process. This new attention means voters’ attitudes could be shifted by whether the results on Monday are in line with the Election Day figures.

First came the primary, where the specter of a contested convention revealed the possibility that primary voters may not have as much say as they believed they did. And now, the hubbub about the Electoral College is offering a similar lesson.

With Democrats pointing to Clinton’s significant popular vote win, there’s a new push from the left to scrap the Electoral College all together.

On the other hand, Republican support for the Electoral College has jumped since Election Day. While 54 percent told Gallup in 2012 that they wanted to change the presidential election to a national popular vote, just 19 percent of Republican respondents felt that way after this year’s election. (Click here to read the rest.)

Here’s the thing. We have Presidential Elections every four years. How is it that people are still unclear on this whole Electoral College thing?? Every. Four. Years. We are a Republic, and the Founders set it up this way to make sure voices across the country were heard.That the Democrats consistently throw hissy fits about the Electoral College if their candidate doesn’t win is just childish. I’m sorry, but it just is.

You all know that I have ZERO love lost for Trump, but the reality is, the ploys and tricks by the Democrats failed, as did their members in turning out to vote. They have no one to blame but themselves for what is an all-but-certain President Trump.

At least that’s what I think. How about you?  As noted in the title, this is an Open Thread, so if you can’t bear to think about the outcome today, and just want to ignore it all, it IS the week before Christmas, so feel free to share videos, stories, pictures, or cartoons about Christmas or whatever else is on your minds. Have at it!

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23 Responses to “Electoral College D-Day *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    Too bad your common sense post couldn’t be read to all the whiny fools on the left. Maybe sit them down with milk, cookies and Play Doh and read it to them. Very slowly.

    Not to mention if the electoral college is tossed aside it then goes to the House of Representatives. Do the fools think the House with it’s majority of Republicans is going to overturn the election? WTH is wrong with these people?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks, Marge – and it really does defy logic that these people think that it would be better if the House ends up the Deciders. Good grief. Again, people are clueless abt how this country works, including people who should know better…

      The cartoon was HILARIOUS!

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Have you noticed that the Loudest Whiners over the Russian Hacking are the ones responsible for cybersecurity during the past 8 years?

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good. Lord. Yeah – they are truly reflecting on why they lost, and not just the Presidency, huh?

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    Obama: Media More to Blame Than Russia in Election

    President Barack Obama on Friday blamed media coverage of the election, more than Russian interference, for email-related issues that dogged Hillary Clinton’s presidential
    campaign this year.

    “This was an obsession that dominated the news coverage,” Obama said during his end-of-the-year press conference of the rolling release of hacked emails from high-level Democrats, including Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta. “This was not some elaborate, complicated espionage scheme.”

    Obama called coverage of the election “troubling,” even as he refused to blame hacks believed to have been engineered by Russia for Clinton’s loss.

    “I don’t think [Clinton] was treated fairly during the election,” he said, a reference to coverage that included a focus on her private email server and on the minutiae of emails hacked from Podesta’s account.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-12-16/obama-media-more-to-blame-than-russia-in-election

    Whiny little finger pointer right to the end.

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    4 Reasons To Rejoice Over The End Of Obama’s Myth-Based Foreign Policy

    President Obama mismanaged two wars, oversaw the collapse of order across the Middle East, and left the United States and the world less safe.

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/19/4-reasons-rejoice-end-obamas-myth-based-foreign-policy/

    In spite of his monumental failures this POS is running around giving himself pats on the back. Ain’t no reality can get through to a narcissist. And we have another one about to move into the Oval Office. God help us all.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Unfortunately, his supporters are all too inclined to support him in his back-patting. He really can do no wrong, and the things he HAS done wrong, they gloss over and ignore because they like him personally. It is truly astonishing how much he has gotten away with over his 8 yrs as a result. I had one person tell me he had no scandals under his Presidency. WOW, really? I mentioned Solyndra, Fast and Furious, and BENGHAZI, to name just three. But he didn’t have any PERSONAL scandals, so let’s just ignore the ones he did have. Good grief.

  7. kenoshamarge Says:

    🙂 Time magazine revealed that Hillary Clinton finished second to Donald Trump in the editorial board’s voting for Person of the Year. It never ends. When Hillary heard she finished second to Trump again, she hiked so far back into the woods she’s on the next three episodes of Duck Dynasty.

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    NYT’s Krugman: The Republic Is Falling And It’s All Republicans’ Fault

    By Ben Shapiro

    On Monday, New York Times Official Chief Partisan Hack™ Paul Krugman took to the op-ed pages to blame Republicans for the demise of the republic.

    Krugman rightly notes that our republic seems to be undergoing a profound change; he is correct when he states, “Republican institutions don’t protect against tyranny when powerful people start defying political norms. And tyranny, when it comes, can flourish even while maintaining a republican façade.”

    But he then blames the rise of tyranny not on the Democrats who decided to implement an administrative state under the jurisdiction of the president, or who concluded that it was worthwhile to set up unelected judges as a super-legislature capable of overriding the Congress, or who cheered as FDR and LBJ and Barack Obama continuously expanded the power of the presidency.

    It’s certainly convenient for Krugman to blame the fall of the republic on Republicans. Then he doesn’t have to look in the mirror after spending an entire career pushing an increasingly powerful and unaccountable government.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/11714/nyts-krugman-republic-falling-and-its-all-ben-Shapiro

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      But of course, it is all the fault of Republicans. Everything is. And Obama is not the least bit responsible for any of it no matter what he does or says.

      Sigh.

  10. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    It is now official. Trump is going to be the next President: http://www.dailywire.com/news/11744/finally-its-done-trump-wins-304-electoral-votes-hank-berrien

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Whatever will the Hillary fools have to complain about now? I’m sure they’ll find something.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Oh, from what The Right Scoop said, they are going ballistic: http://therightscoop.com/faithless-elector-vote-backfires-libs-freak/

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          Unfortunately supposed adult having temper tantrums, freak-outs and other juvenile behavior is now the norm and not something rare from a few. This kind of behavior is simply unacceptable.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            It is indeed unacceptable, but they think they are completely justified in demanding their side win even when they lost. The same people, like OBAMA, who told Republicans to get over it, are now demanding they get their way and refusing to accept the results. They have no one to blame but themselves for this turn of events. Time to stop blaming and start taking responsibility already.

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

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