“Come Together Right Now” *Open Thread*

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Wednesday brought a stunning, disturbing event in which a man from Illinois, James T. Hodgkinson, apparently targeted Republican Congresspeople as they were practicing for the Congressional Baseball Game. This game is an event that has been taking place since 1909 to raise funds for charity, and is being held tonight (Thursday).

The gunman, Hodgkinson, has died from injuries he sustained from return fire. The shooter was a big Bernie Sanders supporter, and he hated Donald Trump, according to his Facebook posts.

A total of five peoplerwere shot at the practice field, including the House Majority Whip, Steve Scalise. Because Scalise was present, so were two Capitol Hill police officers. Those two officers ran toward danger and the hooting while the Congress people scattered trying to take cover. I cannot even begin to think what would have happened at that baseball field yesterday had those two officers not been present, and not courageously charged toward the shooter. There is no doubt things would have been much, much worse than they were without them. Both of the officers were injured, as were a few others includsing Scalise, but it is clear to everyone that had those officers not been there it would have been a “massacre,” as Sen. Rand Paul stated:

[…]

Without Capitol Hill police, it would have been a massacre — we had no defense—we had no defense at all,” Paul said on “Fox & Friends” just minutes after the incident. “I think we’re lucky Scalise was there because this was his security detail and without them, it would have been a massacre.”

Paul described the scene as “sort of a killing field,” and said there were more than 50 shots of gunfire which lasted for at least 10 minutes. Paul described the sounds of the gunfire as possibly coming from an “AR-15” style rifle. The actual model gun used by the shooter has yet to be confirmed.

“We were like sitting ducks,” Paul said, describing his location during the shooting as inside the batting cages, which was approximately 50 yards from second base where Scalise was.

“We were so lucky Capitol Hill Police were there,” Paul said. “They saved our lives.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

No kidding they were lucky the officers were there. Thank God for them.

It is beyond disturbing that this man apparently targeted Republicans as noted above. It is not totally surprising, though, considering where things are these days. Rep. Rodney Davis (R-IA) was at that practice yesterday, and had this to say about the attack, as reported by the Washington Examiner:

[…]

“I went back to my office, and I took the chance to come down here because I wanted to talk to people about what I’d witnessed, and about the effect it should have as we move forward as a country, and that’s why I’m here, bloodied in my uniform, still not had a chance to clean up because it’s that important that a message gets out that the hatefulness — this political rhetoric hate, we’ll let the witnesses describe, but this could be the first political rhetorical terrorist act and that has to stop.”

Davis was at bat when the shots rang out. He appeared in the Capitol sporting a bloody elbow and hand.

“I believe that there’s such a hatefulness in what we see in American politics and policy discussions right now, and in social media and the 24-hour news cycle,” Davis said. “This has got to stop. We can disagree on how to govern — that’s what makes our country great. I’m here because we’re all Americans. And I think Republicans and Democrats need to use this day today to stand together and say stop. Let’s work together, let’s get things done. We can have our differences, but let’s not let it lead to such hate.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Davis also made clear that some of his closest friends are Democrats, and that the way things are depicted now, you would never know that these folks actually get along with each other.

A case in point would be the following photograph reprinted in the NY Post. It is the reaction of House Democrats at their baseball field upon hearing of the shooting at the Republicans’ practice field. It speaks volumes:

It is telling that this was their response, and the correct response it most definitely was, in my opinion.

But to get back to the point made by Rep. Davis about rhetoric, there is not doubt that the rhetoric has really gotten out of hand. As someone said today, when you have people on the other side claiming policies are going to KILL people if passed, or other incendiary claims, that sets a tone (or words to that effect).

One of those who spoke out today was Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, who had a powerful message to Congress following the shooting, emphasizing how we are more alike than different:

Speaker Ryan is right – an attack on one of them is an attack on all of them.It is an attack on us, on our democracy, on our Republic. It is an attack on who we are as Americans. And we cannot allow that to become who we are.

After Speaker Ryan spoke, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi spoke to the House body as well:

For the most part, I found Pelosi’s speech to be touching and heartfelt. That she made clear they are all one family spoke volumes. What struck me even more was her comment that she prays often, and when she prays, she always prays for Donald Trump to have a successful presidency and for his family to be safe. Good on her for making that clear. It is a message that needs to be heard since we have heard so much more that was so negative.

I have to hope that some good will come of this attack. I have to hope that maybe it will make people think twice before shooting off their mouths, or making disparaging remarks about someone just because their political beliefs differ from their own. I have to hope that it will ratchet back the rhetoric, and maybe, just maybe, usher in a bit more civility into proceedings in Congress, in conversations in person and on social media, and remind people that we are all in this together.

After all, we are Americans first and foremost. Before party, before ideology, we are Americans. What a gift that is, and we would do well to remember that.

As the Beatles sang so long ago, we need to “Come together right now…” Amen to that.

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46 Responses to ““Come Together Right Now” *Open Thread*”

  1. kenoshamarge Says:

    I don’t often agree with Paul Ryan anymore, although I once did often, but his speech today was very good. And that line, “An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us” should be set in stone.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I totally hear you abt Ryan, but yes – that was a great line He is so, so right…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        When I posted this cartoon over at the RS I was immediately told that all the hate was from the left. I think he believes it too.

        You cannot solves a problem is you refuse to acknowledge it.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Sadly many in the media did not react with decency and principle. Most notable, the NYT.

    Two of my favorite writers, Ben Shapiro and Mollie Hemingway reacted to the NYT repulsive editorial:

    Here’s Mollie:

    Mollie Hemingway: To New York Times, Bipartisanship Means Blaming GOP When Both Democrats And Republicans Are Shot

    The media’s big problem right now is that everyone in the country knows how they’d be covering yesterday’s shooting if the parties were reversed.

    Progressive Democratic activist James Hodgkinson spent years on social media and in local and national politics focusing on his hatred of Republican politicians. On Wednesday, he went after a group of Republican politicians as they practiced baseball in the early morning, shooting a member of the Republican leadership, two capitol police, a legislative aide, and a lobbyist. Rep. Steve Scalise remains in critical condition.

    Some media treatment has been disgusting. The New York Times ran an editorial that is dangerously dishonest.

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/15/new-york-times-bipartisanship-means-blaming-gop-democrats-republicans-shot/

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good for Hemingway for taking on the NYTimes. Honestly, Marge – the mindset of people to write something like they did after what now appears to be a calculated assassination attempt by Hodgkinson is obscene. Seriously. It is obscene. They should be ashamed.

      Along those lines, William Jacobson had a good, albeit disturbing as hell, piece today: http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/06/shooting-of-republican-congressmen-was-a-long-time-in-the-making/

      This was particularly disconcerting: Jeremy knows the radical left better than anyone I know. He has produced many videos of leftist riots, including the riots that led to canceling Donald Trump’s campaign event in Chicago in March 2016

      I’ve remembered Jeremy’s words every time I see the campus shout-downs, Antifa beat downs, and other assorted riots.

      And I thought of those words the moment I heard of the Scalise shooting:

      “While people are out, running around, scared about the things Donald Trump is saying, there is an army of radical, militant youth being built in this country that lives in an absolutely alternative dimension and a different reality. Their entire world view is completely different and completely antithetical to the traditional American world view. And they are getting closer and closer to the point that they will be ready to fight. I don’t know when that’s going to be, but it’s coming and it’s very ugly.”

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    Here’s Ben Shapiro response to the NYT editorial:

    Ben Shapiro: The New York Times Runs The Worst Editorial In Human History, Blames SARAH PALIN For Giffords Shooting AGAIN

    On Wednesday evening, The New York Times released its editorial on the attempted massacre of Republican Congressmen and their aides by a Trump-hating Bernie Sanders supporter. It was, without a doubt, the worst editorial they have run in a decade.

    The editorial essentially called for gun control — no shock, since every shooting with a semi-automatic engenders a fully automatic response from the mainstream press. But the truly egregious part of the incoherently awful essay came when The Times attempted to pin the rise in toxic rhetoric in the United States on … Sarah Palin. Really.

    The long-repeated lie that Sarah Palin was somehow responsible for the assassination attempt on Gabby Giffords was debunked years ago. Jared Lee Loughner wasn’t a conservative. He wasn’t a Republican. He wasn’t sane. There is no evidence whatsoever that he ever saw the infamous Palin targeted district map. None.

    The rumor was discredited within hours of the shooting. But six years later, The Times is still repeating the lie as true — and not just as true, but as the ultimate example of political rhetoric prompting violence.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/17553/new-york-times-runs-worst-editorial-human-history-ben-shapiro

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I am literally SMH. It is astonishing that the NY Times would be repeating that piece of crap insinuation that was completely, utterly false in an attempt to attack the GOP even more when they had physically been attacked.

      They are despicable. Absolutely despicable. I hope people are slamming them for this, but I am afraid to even go look lest people are eagerly jumping on the Hate Palin Blame Republicans bandwagon again.

      Truly appalling behavior from the NY Times. How dare they!

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        I might add, when you look at the photo at the Daily Wire, it is of Palin and Trump together. Of COURSE they want to bring her up and disparage her more, blaming her for something she had NOTHING to do with, because she was an early supporter of Trump’s.

        One more thing abt that damn crosshairs thing – then Rep. now Sen. Chris Van Hollen actually used that imagery FIRST as head of the DCCC. People conveniently forget that.

        But for anyone to perpetuate the blatant lie that Palin using that in anyway inspired Loughner is repugnant.

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    John Hawkins: 20 Liberal Calls For Violence Against Conservatives in Quotes

    After Republican Rep. Steve Scalise was shot yesterday, many liberals on twitter CELEBRATED and said things like,

    “The Only Good Fascist is a Dead One.”

    “That’s a Shame but babies blown to bits at Sandy Hook was worse and Scalise takes money from the @NRA”

    “If the shooter has a serious health condition then is taking potshots at the GOP leadership considered self defense?”

    “If KKK support Steve Scalise dies, the shooter deserves a holiday, true leadership. Now the trumps, kush, & miller need to be transitioned.”

    Is it any wonder? The most prominent liberals in America regularly accuse conservatives of being racist, sexist, Nazis, fascists who want children to die and are killing the planet and ruining the environment all because of their hate of the poor and minorities. Liberals today aim a nastier stream of propaganda at Republicans than America did at the Nazis; so is it any wonder that some people take the next logical step and become violent?

    Meanwhile, you have plays, rap videos and prominent liberals glorifying the murder of the President, liberals applauding unrepentant terrorists like Bill Ayers, all while cops at left-wing universities stand back and allow violent students to riot, threaten and disrupt conservative speakers. We’re moving fast towards a point where clashes between armed gangs of thugs on both sides will leave people dead because liberals believe conservatives aren’t human beings and thus, don’t deserve the same protection under the law.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2017/06/15/20-liberal-calls-for-violence-against-conservatives-in-quotes-n2341401

    If you can read the ugly quotes contained in this article and think it’s all right because they are the “other” party, then you are as sick as the people that said it. Then you are as sick and twisted as the man who took a gun and tried to kill people practicing for a damn inter-party baseball game. Then you are just plain sick!

    I hope and pray that people on the left and right see what this disgusting kind of rhetoric is doing to our country. What it is doing to our people. And I hope and pray that the cartoon of Gary Varvel below isn’t just a short moment in time like the moment on the capital steps after 9/11 when the idiots in congress came together and remembered that we are ALL Americans – before they went back to their name-calling.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good. LORD. How in the world can people even think this way? Oh, right – they have been indoctrinated to do so.

      Yes, the Left constantly calling the Right killers, murderers, fascists, racists, sexists, homophobes, transphobes, anti-environment, and on and on and on, has had an effect.

      This must stop. It has to stop. And our universities need to do much better in dealing with their students considering campuses seem to be a breeding ground for this kind of incendiary hatred…

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        It will be difficult for universities to quell the incendiary hatred when they are a major part of the problem. They indoctrinate the young people in the hatred.

        Now the lunatics are trying the run the asylum and the administrators and professors that revved them up roll over and play dead. I see no quick or easy solution.

        • piper Says:

          I understand that grades are passe, most universities are on a pass/fail system and some are actually allowing the students to grade/evaluate themselves.
          What could possibly go wrong with this ‘new and self-esteem building’ reward practice.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Sadly, Marge, I fear you are right. Something has to change on a big scale and soon.

          Piper, that is just unbelievable. Are you serious abt this whole grading thing?? That is RIDICULOUS!!!!

          Universities/campuses have just become overpriced day care centers.

  6. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    The NY Times has issued a correction to its despicable Editorial, though it is way too little way too late: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/06/15/nyt-issues-correction-for-revisiting-gabby-giffords-conspiracy-n2341704

    • piper Says:

      Sharing this comment from a poster on PjMedia

      ‘Seriously, we do not have a gun problem. We have a Prog problem. Prog violence is the issue.”

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        The rush by the Left to blame Republicans for violence against Republicans while ignoring that had there not been two officers there yesterday, it would have been a massacre since NO ONE WAS ARMED but the cops. There is an incredible lack of logic utilized by these people in order to push this ideology. It is just idiotic.

        • piper Says:

          And here is Mika’s take

          “MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Joe, I think that, very carefully, we have to, we have to talk about the, the added dynamic here, because you have the right and the left, the extremes on the right and the left. You have fake news, you have conspiracy theorists who are really muddying the waters, and we have become desensitized.

          We also have a president who pushes fake news and conspiracy theories from birtherism to promoting violence on the campaign trail. I mean, this is the new dynamic here. I’m not putting anything squarely on the president, but I have to say that this is the new added dynamic to what is a very dangerous climate. Joining us from Capitol Hill —

          JOE SCARBOROUGH: Well, it is, it is, it is a long time coming. It is 20, 30 years coming, and yes, we’ve spoken about Donald Trump. But if Donald Trump were to leave Washington tomorrow, we would have the same problems that we had the 30 years before Donald Trump was here. This is a systemic problem, and it’s been with us for a long time.

          Link: Mika: I’m Not Blaming Trump “Squarely” for Scalise Shooting, But . . .

          Posted by Mark Finkelstein Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 8:00am on Legal Insurrection

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Good grief. Juan Williams also blamed Trump yesterday prompting Kimberly Guilfoyle to respond to the question of how long civility will last saying, “it’s over,” or words to that effect. Once the Dems start blaming Trump for the incendiary rhetoric on their side and violence being perpetrated, the likelihood of things changing diminishes.

  7. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    The attack yesterday appears to have been premediated: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/06/14/ny-post-scalise-shooter-scouted-site-of-attack-for-weeks-n2341252

    • piper Says:

      How did he learn the location of the baseball practice? Was it public knowledge?
      Sorry after too many political deaths I’d like to know more about the shooter’s demise.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        That is the question, piper. I heard yesterday that that information is supposed to be private, but I don’t know if that is a fact. But it would seem likely they would not reveal that kind of information routinely.

        So yeah – good question!

  8. piper Says:

    A quote on my Facebook page

    “The Alexandria shooting was horrific. It’s OK to disagree, but violence and calling for violence is never the answer. We must resolve our differences peacefully and respectfully.”
    — Samantha Nerove, America Matters CEO

  9. kenoshamarge Says:

    Yup, it’s them nasty Republicans in general and Trump in particular that are at fault for this despicable, progressive Berniebot trying to kill Republican Congressmen.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Uh, yeah. This really sums it up, doesn’t it? They have repeated this talking point ad naueum and now act like they said noting, a lo Col. Klink. Grrr.

  10. kenoshamarge Says:

    If you follow the Sean Spicer parody (@sean_spicier), like us you were waiting for the unhinged Left to get even more unhinged after the Alexandria shooting.

    Not that they were all that concerned that Republicans were being shot at (some justified it even), but they didn’t want their rhetoric and crap behavior over the past six months to be blamed. Priorities, right?

    Spicier knew exactly how to bring the cockroaches into the light:

    Like you give a crap. Hillary campaign paid people to be violent at rallies

    Wonder if we’ll hear anything about Democrats’ dangerous rhetoric contributing to Rep Scalise’s shooting

    Magic 8 ball: Highly doubtful

    Oh yeah, the Left was thrilled to blame Trump for the actions of a crazy Bernie Sanders supporter. Because hey, that’s what they do now.

    Rained on your parade? Freakin’ Trump!

    Shoes untied? Dammit Trump!

    Yes, GOP Rep was targeted because of Trump. Please don’t reproduce

    http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/06/15/like-you-give-a-crap-sean-spicer-parody-makes-lefties-even-crazier-after-alexandria-shooting/?utm_source=twtydaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

  12. kenoshamarge Says:

    Rep. Brooks, others emerge as heroes after Alexandria shooting

    Rep. Brooks said that once the gunman was neutralized, the congressmen and security detail ran to the aid of Scalise, putting “pressure on his wound on his hip,” with the help of Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, a podiatrist who served as a combat surgeon in Iraq.

    https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/rep-brooks-others-emerge-as-heroes-after-alexandria-shooting

    I’m sorry if I don’t sound appropriately respectful of what Brooks and the other congressmen had just been through, but I do think the word “hero” is tossed around too easily.

    I think they acted very well and Scalise may well live because a former “combat surgeon” from Iraq was present and could treat him so quickly. Those actions are laudatory in my opinion, I’m just not sure they rise to the level of heroics.

    Then again if I had been shot at it would have taken a large man, or many large men to drag me out of the shelter of that dugout. So perhaps just walking back on that field was an act of heroism.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I totally appreciate your point, Marge, especially since the two Capitol Hill officers truly WERE heroes, walking into the line of fire to draw that fire and saving all of those people.

      It is a damn good thing Brooks was there, no doubt abt it, and yeah, walking back out onto the field after a hail of bullets would take a helluva lot of courage.

      I guess they are heroes in their way, but if there are degrees, those cops belong at the top of the line…

  13. kenoshamarge Says:

  14. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Here is more on those brave, courageous souls who rushed into danger to save the lives of so many yesterday. God bless them: http://www.faithwire.com/2017/06/15/here-are-the-two-heroic-capitol-police-officers-who-saved-dozens-of-lives-yesterday/

  15. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Wow – surprising words from Stephen Colbert, but welcome ones to be sure: http://www.faithwire.com/2017/06/15/stephen-colbert-had-two-powerful-words-for-president-trump-last-night/

  16. piper Says:

    Found this on another site – Time for laughter

  17. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Sadly, I fear RRep. Chaffetz is right: https://sharylattkisson.com/neither-party-wants-to-change-washington-rep-jason-chaffetz-r-utah

    You can catch his interview on Full Measure this Sunday.

  18. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    If anyone is able and willing to help, there is a national blood drive for Scalise: http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/06/nationwide-blood-drive-underway-for-rep-scalise/

  19. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    This is an excellent article abt the mainstreaming of delusion along with a call to make some changes: http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/16/trans-mainstreaming-blood-drinking-twerking-second-graders-will-ever-say-enough

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