NATO “Preparedness” And The Big Bad Bear *Open Thread* *UPDATED*


UPDATE at the bottom of the post.

What a lot of outrage we have seen over the past few days by Democrats, the media, and some foreign leaders over President Trump at NATO (and Russia’s Putin). You’d think he had threatened to take over the world with the protests by an uninformed populace and whiny leaders being held accountable.

Here’s the thing – we, American taxpayers, have been 69%  of the NATO budget. Meanwhile, countries like Germany are engaging in some major deals with Russia for energy yet expect the USA to protect them should Russia do something untoward. Huh?? More on Russia soon, but this interview on Fox Business covers both the NATO Summit and Trump’s Putin/Russia Summit:

Did you catch that? We are paying $706 BILLION – with a “B” of the NATO budget of $1 Trillion dollars. What the hell? Sure – it is good for us to pay some, but 69% of it?? That is crazy!

And it is particularly crazy given what I learned this past weekend from Charles Payne of Fox Business about why Trump was pushing Germany. Not only is Germany in bed with Russia over energy, as I noted above, but if things go south with Russia, Germany is incapable of defending themselves. Guess who is the country that is counted on to step in and defend countries like Germany? Yep. Us. So we are paying most of the budget, and we are the ones to defend NATO nations.

That is not an overstatement about Germany. Here’s what Charles Payne highlighted on Saturday, from Townhall:

Not only aren’t our NATO friends and allies not stepping up to the plate on spending, the monies they are using aren’t being applied wisely.  The idea Germany is only paying 1.2% of their GDP is bad enough, but it is made worse when you see what shambles it’s left their military in.   If Russia rolled up with 100,000 troops, I think Germany would fall overnight.

Readiness Military Units
95/244 Leopard battle tanks operational
0/6 Submarines operational
9/15 Frigates in service
0/14 Luftwaffe’s transport aircraft are airworthy several occasions in 2017
21,000 Junior officer and NCO positions unfilled
6/30 Logistical battalions fully equipped
39/128 Typhoon jets operational
26/93 Tornado jets
13/58 NH-90 transportation helicopters

Russia military spending dropped last year from a record high as oil revenue softened.  But make no mistake, Russia is on a mission just like China to rebuild its war-making machine.

By the way, Germany spent $222 billion subsidizing renewable energy from 2000 to 2017, while its declining defense spending has led to a military that’s frighteningly unprepared to defend the country.  One could argue American taxpayers paid for a lot of German windmills & solar farms. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Told you it wasn’t an overstatement about Germany.

This point was hammered home in a Stars and Stripes article back in May, which is what makes the outrage by the Media/Democrats so hypocritical – they know Germany has not spent adequate funds on Defense, and they are not paying their dues to NATO. Here are some of the particulars from Stars and Stripes:

Germany’s military is virtually undeployable and security experts say it is too weak to meet its obligations to its allies, as it prepares to assume command of NATO’s crisis response force next year.

Pressure on Berlin is mounting after a series of revelations has exposed the German military as one of the least combat ready in NATO, despite its economic heft.

“The readiness of the German military is abysmal,” said Jorge Benitez, a NATO expert with the Atlantic Council in Washington. “For years, German leaders have known that major elements of their armed forces, such as tanks, submarines and fighter jets, are not fully operational and can’t be used for actual military missions.”


Among the failures: none of Germany’s submarines is operational, only four of its 128 Eurofighter jets are combat-ready and the army is short dozens of tanks and armored vehicles needed for NATO missions.

In addition, troops are short on the basics: body armor, night vision gear and cold-weather clothing.

The situation is so dire that 19 helicopter pilots from Germany’s Bundeswehr were forced to turn in their flight licenses because of a lack of training time. […] (Click here to read the rest.)

This is why it is incredibly important that Trump was able to get our allies to agree to kick in more of their own money on defense. And it’s about damn time, too, I might add.

Political Cartoons by AF BrancoOnce the NATO Summit was concluded, Democrats started in on Trump for meeting with the Russia’s Vladimir Putin. Now they claim that Trump shouldn’t meet with Putin since Deputy AG Rosenstein just charged 12 Russians for their part in cyber attacks of the DNC servers. You know, the ones the DNC REFUSES to hand over to our Intelligence agency, with Tom Perez refusing to answer why just this weekend. That isn’t the LEAST bit suspicious, is it? But I digress…

Back to the Democrats and their “concern” about Trump meeting with Putin. From Fox News:

Sen. Mark Warner, top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, offered Trump an ultimatum for the highly anticipated summit: make Russian interference a priority, or cancel the meeting.


“There should be no one-on-one meeting between this president and Putin,” Warner said. “There needs to be other Americans in the room, or the summit should be canceled.”

He warned, “I’m afraid the president could be taken advantage of.”

But as Trump continues to describe the Russia probe as a “witch hunt,” the White House downplayed the latest allegations.

“Today’s charges include no allegations of knowing involvement by anyone on the campaign and no allegations that the alleged hacking affected the election result,” said Lindsay Walters, the deputy White House press secretary. “This is consistent with what we have been saying all along.” […] (Click here to read the rest.)

Warner wasn’t the only one. The usual suspects like Schumer and Pelosi had something to say, too.

I wonder if Warner and the other Democrats shooting off their mouths now felt the same way when Obama said this:

Yeah, I doubt it, too.

The Democrats’ deflection of all of the Russian meddling happened under OBAMA’S tenure, with OBAMA doing nothing about it. Heck, Obama’s  National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, told a high ranking official to “stand down” on developing counter techniques to the cyber attacks by Russia.

Why isn’t the media hounding Rice, or Obama, over their inaction to stop the Russian threat? Why do they keep demanding answers of Trump when Obama was President then?

The 4 hour talk between Trump and Putin happened Monday. During a press conference, both Presidents denied there was collusion during the 2016 Election. They spoke about Syria, being nuclear superpowers, cooperation with our respective militaries, etc. And Trump raised the same about the DNC and its servers, the Pakistani’s servers, Hillary’s servers, and more in response to a reporter who asked Trump if he would denounce Putin/Russia for meddling.

But you probably heard nothing except the response by Trump to one reporter’s question. The outrage has been swift from Democrats, the media, and some Republicans. “The Five”discussed the issue of Trump’s response at length (0.00  – 20.35, with a great point by Gutfeld at 19:48):

No doubt there is more to come on this. Your comments are welcome.

This is an Open  Thread.

UPDATE: As many continue to focus on just the one response from the press conference Trump had with Putin Monday, and ignore the MANY other things Trump has done to stand up to Russia, there was some MAJOR news Monday that has been completely ignored.

That would be another day on Capitol Hill of former FBI attorney and Strzok paramour, Lisa Page. Rep. Louie Gohmert was on Fox and Friends Tuesday morning, and what he revealed about Page’s testimony was startling:

In case you don’t have time to listen to the interview, let me sum it up for you: The FBI knew that a major foreign power – NOT RUSSIA – has over 30,000 of Hillary Clinton’s emails. This information was given to Strzok but he did NOTHING with it. That is huge.

Gohmert was asked if there were other high level Intelligence officials involved in some of the machinations and his one word response, “Yes.”

I don’t like for our elected officials to speak against the USA anytime, much less abroad. Just to be clear. But in the case of what many are seeing as Trump slamming our Intelligence community, my take is that he was factoring in all of the efforts by high level Intelligence members trying to overturn his election, an effort that has continued with the “Resist” movement of elected officials.

One thing Trump’s response was not was treason. As Gohmert said, “those guilty dogs are barking,” or words to that effect, in response to John Brennan’s charge. John Brennan, whose own history is exceedingly questionable, really needs to stop throwing stones in glass houses.

As Judge Jeanine Pirro just said, no doubt Trump saw the reporter’s question as implying Trump did not win the election  fair and square, which made him defensive. His response was inartful, no doubt about it. And that needs to be addressed. But we cannot allow that one response to overshadow absolutely everything else that happened in Helsinki and with NATO, or to ignore what Lisa Page is revealing about what happened with the FBI. Ignoring that a major country hacked into Hillary’s server is no small thing, which is precisely why Trump responded to that reporter with his own questions about the servers of Clinton’s, the DCCC/DNC, and the Pakistani IT guy the DNC spokeswoman, Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz used and kept on the payroll for years (and this article highlights the Democrats’ support of the IT “aide.”).


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95 Responses to “NATO “Preparedness” And The Big Bad Bear *Open Thread* *UPDATED*”

  1. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    President Obama just made a thinly veiled derogatory comment about President Trump while in SOUTH AFRICA. And I just watched the DNC Vice Chair, Michael Blake, blow that off as no big deal for Obama to do in response to Republican Brad Blakeman saying that for Obama to do so was “beyond the pale” for a former American President on foreign soil to say about an acting President.

    So yeah – the hypocrisy abounds. So sick of this crap.

  2. kenoshamarge Says:

    Great post with lots of solid information to help us understand the confusing times we live in. Lord knows the media won’t do it. Well done!

    Gotta love that Louie Gohmert doncha?

    Can you believe that Germany doesn’t have single working submarine? They don’t pay their fair share, chan’t protect themselves and then complain about the USA? Oh wait, they only complain when they are called on their many failings. All those #NeverTrump fools who show Trump and Putin in an embrace, and the lefties that print homophobic cartoons about such a relationship might try inserting Mutti Merkel.

    Despite Botched Summit with Putin, Trump’s Policies Are Still Pressuring Russia

    On Monday, President Donald Trump managed to make a bad situation much, much worse. In a press conference held after his summit meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump strongly implied he agreed with Putin’s assessment that the Russians did not meddle in the 2016 U.S. elections, even though U.S. intelligence has concluded that they did. Despite Trump’s spectacular bungling of this diplomatic moment with Putin, the Trump administration is still pushing back hard against Moscow.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks, Marge – I appreciate that!

      I was STUNNED with Payne’s revelations about how much money we sink into NATO, while being the one on whom those nations rely to protect them, and how miserable – make that non-existent – are the defenses of a country like Germany. What the hell??? Why are we shelling out over $700 BILLION dollars while the countries who need protection are shelling out paltry amounts? That is nuts!!

      And yes, Oprea makes a great point in her article. Trump has stood up to Russia in MAJOR ways. He is not getting any credit for that at all, but that is not surprising, really, especially given our “Resist!” media. Still, that does not negate the reality.

      I know it appears I am a Trump apologist – I really am not. but I hate the rampant hypocrisy, the drive to overturn an election won fairly by those in the very agencies we should be able to rely, and the Democrats who give them cover. This outrage is manufactured in a big way lest Trump get any credit for what he actually accomplished on his trip abroad.

      Not for nothing, the Intelligence Community still has much for which they need to answer. The rank and file are no doubt plugging along, but when you look at everything that has happened, like with Manafort, who is sitting in solitary confinement when he has not been convicted of ANY crimes, the raiding of ALL of Trump’s attorney’s places of business and home, the McCabe/Strzok/Page,, machinations, are all serious and need to be addressed. No matter how much smoke the Dems/media throw.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        Totally missed that cartoon the first time – that was just perfect!!

        Oh,and yes Gohmert is something else. Good for him for exposing just how badly this whole Clinton investigation was intentionally (?) bungled.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I don’t take you as a “Trump apologist” although you can bet your boots any #NeverTrump or lefty Trump hater would.

        It’s simply being fair. While I did not like what he said while over seas I have observed that what he says and what he does are often two different things. So it pays to pay attention.

        Saying one thing and doing another is as common in politics as the hypocrisy that forgives it for your side and finds it horrible when the other side does the same things.

        If all the hypocrites in politics and media were suddenly silent it would make for a peaceful quiet.

        • kinthenorthwest Says:

          That is what is interesting about cartoons…Different reads depending on one’s mindset!

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          LOL – well, I know that’s true. And thanks, Marge – I appreciate that.

          I try to implement Attkisson’s MO of flipping things on their head and see if someone else did the same thing, would there be the same reaction? The answer when it comes to Trump and the Dems/media is a resounding no.

          The Dems had ZERO qualms with President Obama going on an Apology Tour in which his comments against his country were SCRIPTED, not off the cuff and subject to interpretation. Obama was crustal clear. To see the Dems claiming Trump is treasonous for a backhanded comment says it all.

          And yes, it would be a peaceful quiet indeed wouldn’t it?

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Amy does her research….Is always ready for counter arguments too.

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Has Germany give America back any of the money that America spend helping them out after WWII.
      Bet not..

  3. kenoshamarge Says:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      More from the article above:

      The far simpler explanation: Trump was more concerned with sticking it to his domestic opponents than being tough with Putin. He’s trolling the Left in America — but he’s recklessly doing it on the international stage. He has allowed his own ego and his fight with the mainstream media and the Left over the Russia collusion narrative to dictate how he engages the leader of an adversarial foreign country.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        She makes a fair point. I think he did get defensive and reacted to the gotcha question in a way that provided a lot of ammunition.

        But we have NO idea what transpired during the four hours of the meeting Trump had with Putin. We have no idea how hard he was on him, what sticks and carrots he used (as Greg Gutfeld said), and what promises were made. We don’t know because rather than asking real questions like that, Trump was asked to attack the man standing next to him.

        Honestly, I really think this was a no-win for Trump no matter what. As I said in the post, had he gone after Putin in response to that question, Dems/Media would be all atwitter at how terrible he was at diplomacy, how could he attack him like that after Putin agreed to a meeting, etc., etc.

        Like I said, he should have ignored the question and moved on. Of course, he would have been attacked for that, too.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          With the media and with the rest of the hysterical hyperbolic left there is no “win” for Trump so he might as well go for broke.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            Good point, Marge – as long as he is working for what’s best for the USA, the detractors can just keep yelling themselves hoarse.

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Good One LOL…..If Russia is smart enough to rig an American election they should know about the emails then.

  4. foxyladi14 Says:


  5. foxyladi14 Says:


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Holy smokes – that was quite the response from the Former Assistant Sec. of State. Thank you for this, Foxy – the only headline I had seen abt Trish Regan was her comment that she didn’t like a President saying something abt our Intelligence community.

      I have to disagree with Regan in her claim that the Intelligence Community is not saying Trump didn’t win fair and square – has she NOT been paying attention to the Strzok, Page, and McCabe? Did she not read the IG report? Has she not been paying attention to the whole reason for the Mueller Investigation?

      And YES, how could Trump NOT be defensive given the constant bombardment against him from the media, the Dems, the attempts to undermine his Presidency by not just those mentioned above, but comments from former Presidents? I mean, really – if this happened to any other President, this kind of constant drumbeat and “RESIST!” movement, especially if it was a Dem., the reactions would be very different I bet.

  6. foxyladi14 Says:


    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Thanks so much for this article, Foxy – Simon hits the nail on the head.

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Good article Foxy—TY I shared it.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Although Simon makes some very good points I don’t agree with the entirety of the article. That’s fine. I just wish Trump would use some discipline when he’s speaking in public.

      I agree with those who say how can you enter into any kind of a dialogue with a world leader if you start by attacking them verbally before you meet?

      Finest moment? I don’t think so. But it sure as heck wasn’t the catastrophe media and the lying left would have you believe.

      • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

        No, it wasn’t a catastrophe. I took the point abt it being Trump’s “finest moment” as being something we will realize down the road. Of course, we can’t know how valid that claim is at this point. Time will tell abt all of his policies, though many are already bearing fruit in a big way.

        • kenoshamarge Says:

          Maybe it will be. Personally I think in the long run Trump’s finist moment, or greatest legacy will be the Supreme Court choices and the way he’s shown a bright light on the disgusting bias of the media. And the way he doesn’t back down when they attack him but pushes right back. I love that. I wish it would be a trend.

          • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

            I think you are right abt that, Marge – assuming Trump can get in who he wants. I have little doubt that is precisely the reason for all of the histrionics – the Reps wanting to get Kavanaugh confirmed before the SCOTUS returns in Oct.

            LOL – uh, yeah – I wish it could be a trend, too!

  7. kinthenorthwest Says:

    I could post the twitter post with the picture but can’t handle look at it.
    This is past sick-I think sicker than Kathy Griffin, which I thought no one could be.

    DISGRACEFUL Portland Art Gallery

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Believe then when they show you what and who they are. This is beyond disgusting. And the “tolerant” left accepts this kind of garbage. Shame on them and any other citizen that finds it other than repulsive.

      Can you even begin to imagine the outrage if someone did this to Obama?

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      My GOD, that is HORRIBLE!!!! That isn’t “art” – that is a threat!

      What in the hell is WRONG with people?!

  8. kenoshamarge Says:

    Rand Paul Defends Trump on Russia

    While President Trump has faced widespread backlash from Republicans and Democrats alike over his performance at the Helsinki Summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin—not everyone was displeased.

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), in fact, liked much of what Trump had to say.

    “It’s gotten so ridiculous that someone has to stand up and say we should try to engage even our adversaries and open up our lines of communication,” Paul, who’s set to travel to Russia next month to continue talks, told Politico. “We’re going to talk to the president about some small steps in order to try to thaw the relations between our countries.”

    He brushed aside criticism Trump received from within the GOP as nothing more than “Trump derangement syndrome.”

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      I saw a headline of what Paul said but hadn’t had a chance to read it yet. Thanks for this. I agree that TDS is rampant, whether among Dems or Reps. Thanks for this!

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Rand Paul is such a puzzlement to me…He comes up with really good stuff, but when he sticks his foot in his mouth he does it good.
      Overall I think the guy is a true patriot.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I’m with you, I never quite know what to think about the guy. I do believe he is a true patriot. That doesn’t mean he sees things the same way as others who are also patriots.

        I liked that he had the guts to stand up for Trump. I suspect there are others that agree also but are too afraid of the media mob to speak out.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          I’m with y’all, too – he is a puzzlement. Just when I think I have a handle on him, he throws a curveball!

          And I have no doubt there are many who are afraid of speaking out lest they get hammered by the Anti-Trump Brigade.

        • kinthenorthwest Says:

          Like you said sometimes its hard to see his position…But will say he will stand up when he feels it is right.

  9. kinthenorthwest Says:

    What kind of idiot is Wallace– Why do I even bother when it concerns American Media people.

    WATCH: Chris Wallace tries to give Putin indictment papers from Mueller; Putin has NONE of it

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Funny how people forget all of the kowtowing Dems did under Obama…

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Good lord, what a grandstanding moron!

      • kinthenorthwest Says:

        Though it couldn’t be true…but that is no edited video.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Nope, it’s for real. I watched the entire interview. I have never been a fan of Wallace’s. I thought he was downright rude to Putin on a number of occasions. I am sure he thought he was being a “hard hitting reporter,” but like it or not, Putin IS the President of Russia.

          I imagine many Americans would not be too thrilled to have a foreign reporter act the same way to our President. Well, if it was Obama, that is. Ahem.

  10. kenoshamarge Says:

    Leave it to IowaHawk to inject some humor

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    CNN Gives False Reason Why Former Trump Official Canceled On Them, The Official Suggests

    Former National Security Council Comms Director Michael Anton was scheduled to appear on CNN’s “Erin Burnett OutFront” on Monday night but canceled citing his distrust of the network.

    CNN’s Erin Burnett tweeted about the cancellation, writing: “Michael Anton, Former Trump NSC spox, canceled his appearance on Outfront tonight because he couldn’t defend @realDonaldTrump today.”

    CNN did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Daily Wire.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Good LORD, what in the world is wrong with them? How has CNN become so much of a DNC mouthpiece? They used to have far more credibility, but they have ceded all of that to be political tools. WOW.

      • kenoshamarge Says:

        I think the answer is Jeff Zucker happened to them. They were always leaning further left that they should have, as an independent “news” network but since Zuckerberg took over it’s gotten simply terrible.

        Their ratings show it. But they don’t seem to care. Part of that is the way cable is “bundled”. We pay for it even if we don’t want it. Thus ratings don’t affect that particular payday.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          Excellent point, Marge. I bet that is exactly what happened. No doubt you are right. They may lose advertisers, but as long as their network can be thrown in with all the rest of cable, they get away with being total hacks.

          Same with MSNBC.

  12. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    The results of this Ipsos poll are telling indeed:

  13. kenoshamarge Says:

  14. kenoshamarge Says:

    William A. Jacobson: After Post-Summit Meltdown, Carry On

    The current hysteria is what we have been experiencing for two years. It drowns out, and in many ways delegitimizes, honest criticism. It’s certainly fair to criticize some of Trump’s answers at the press conference, where he seemed to draw an equivalence between the assessments of the U.S. intelligence community and Putin’s denial of election interference.

    But that’s not “treason” as many are shouting. And answers at a press conference do not give Democrats and Trump haters a mulligan to redo the election.

    Understand that, while there are some people fairly concerned that Trump’s press conference performance did damage, the overwhelming chorus of treason-accusers and meltdown-instigators is simply a continuation of the slow coup against the election result we have witnessed continuously since the election.

    My advice: Carry on.

    I usually agree with Professor Jacobson’s calm, good sense. Today is no different.

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      i like the good professor, too. He does exude calm, rational, sense, doesn’t he?

      And I think he is right. This is the continuation of the slow moving coup. The Democrats are the ones engaging in untoward behavior by so doing, thus why they are throwing out that “treason” word at Trump. That way they can justify their on-going unConstitutional actions.

  15. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    My sister shared this on my Facebook page. I am sure many of us here will appreciate this:

    I have tried to upload the photo several times, but WordPress is being uncooperative.

  16. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Just gotta love Chris Pratt:

  17. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Sharyl Attkisson does it again in a well worded Tweet in response to John Brennan:

  18. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    So, did the media REALLY gloss over this little bombshell from yesterday or is this the reason for the (manufactured) outrage:

    Meanwhile, the media completely glossed over a bombshell dropped by Putin when he claimed the Hillary Clinton campaign had received an illegal contribution of 400,000.00 from a Fusion-GPS connected banker.

    Here’s the link:

  19. kinthenorthwest Says:

    Wow—Whats with our LEOs…

  20. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Oh, HOLY CRAP – it’s hitting the fan now. Lisa Page is talking, and HOW:

    • kinthenorthwest Says:

      Have a feeling that she is only one of many…Looks like there is more on Peter Strzok too…Iposted the twitter feed for it down below.

  21. piper Says:

    At last, the truth is revealed Have been waiting a long time for this to appear.

  22. kinthenorthwest Says:

    This is one of those twitter threads that has about 8 entries or more int it…I think Keno is Twitter so she can see all the post…But this Wictor often has some interesting stufff….
    Since Amy was part of the 2008 questioning Obama group I have a feeling this might be of interest. To slice the thread apart would not do it justice. Seems that there are some connections to Obama people way back…

    • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

      Holy cow, that is quite the thread. And did it ever bring back memories from 2008.

      And if the media hadn’t conspired to hide information about Obama (JournoListers), he never would have been President.

      The Iran connection with Strozk is stunning. And does that ever explain a LOT.

      Thanks for this!

      Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

      • kinthenorthwest Says:

        2008 and all the crap we tried to uncover.
        I remember 2008 was first time I heard of massive viruses to forums that were uncovering the truth. 2008 was the year I heard about white washing…Wrights Church’s creed and the Black Panthers site as white washed as soon as many of us found them…That was when many learned to do screen shots.

        • Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

          There were so many things that were going on then. A number of us who were writing about this stuff had crazy things happen to us. It was disconcerting, to put it mildly.

          Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

  23. kinthenorthwest Says:

    For your evening smile..

  24. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    More from Sen. Rand Paul being forceful – this time his target is, rightly, John Brennan:

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